Almost none were unwitting about what was happening.
Don’t worry, some here will find a way to blame Pelosi.
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Almost none were unwitting about what was happening.
Don’t worry, some here will find a way to blame Pelosi.
He was a walking caricature of everything that's wrong with our government
I would have to go looking for the actual reporting on it and I don't care enough to go looking for it. I am sure there is more to it than as depicted here. A pardon doesn't prevent deportation, and why would Walz care?
Ya, I’m in the same boat, haven’t looked into it much. Barely looking, the optics aren’t great. Why did this man’s story resonate with Walz? Not a national story, so I understand why people don’t care, but still an odd cause for him or any politician.
Putting any effort into helping a non citizen child abuser is sure way to get some unwanted attention. I’m not sure why any politician would do that, feeding the sharks.
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Ya, it is almost as ridiculous as watching posters buy into whataboutism peddled by Stoned.
I haven’t seen a single person agree with him that Tim Walz attempting to pardon a sex pest was a good idea. Seems terrible to me, glad Trump deported the guy.
You’re both correct. This isn’t difficult.
Walz shouldn’t have pardoned the creep.
Trump has a long list of really sketchy pardons too.
OK,OK I had to go find legit news report. Still bad judgment, and unnecessary publicity. The Laotian was legally admitted in 1994. In 2006 he was convicted of molesting the 10 year old. His status was revoked and a final order of removal was entered by Immigration & Nat. 20 years ago. So I don't see what anyone thought a pardon would do. In Minnesota Pardons are granted by a Board not the Governor, and they granted a pardon. The Pardon has to be reviewed by the Clemency Panel which has three members one of whom is the Governor. They unanimously upheld the pardon. Why I don't know, except the victim, submitted a statement asking that the molester be Pardoned. I don't see why that matters he/she was 10 at the time ofthe crime and I am guessing related to him.
You went too far. Many people went to DC. Many people protested peacefully. Protesting is a part of free speech. You’re a moron if you think basement Joe and the hoe got 81 million votes. What about all the protestors who felt entitled to go to the sometimes conservative SCOTUS homes and protest during the autopen administration? That is not legal. How many arrests outside of the one guy with the gun?
You didn't see me defend the J6 pardons, just criticize Walz who approved the pardon.
My impression of J6 is there is much more to it than the politically motivated J6 commission, with Liz Chaney, reported. There were government agents in the crowd, there were agitators in the crowd and there were citizens trying to protest. Yet generally, the protesters who entered the Capitol building were friendly with the police, it wasn't Portland after George Floyd. The total Capitol damage was $2.7 million for broken windows, "historic" doors, and some other damages.
However there are bad apples, they show up at every protest. In particular there is one guy who pepper sprayed a policeman who died of "natural causes" the next day. I don't believe he should have been part of a blanket pardon; he was charged with assaulting a federal officer with a dangerous weapon. Maybe review his case later.
Most defendants asked for a change of venue from Washington DC and were denied, probably because the goal was convictions. Many defendants were held in jail pending trial - probably to force confessions. The Supreme Court has subsequently struck down some of the legal stretches of law used to get convictions.
So I think little guys got caught up in national politics with one side trying to get at Trump by convicting/confessing any person they could for any possible violation they could from J6. I think Trump should have not done blanket pardons but I also believe most were unjustly in jail, so I've moved on.
I don’t believe these posts are organic. Indeed, this is a problem, but it should be reported on in organic fashion, not in essentially uniform fashion.
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Yes. She has. She even recently got her own shoe model with Adidas, I think.
Of course it was good Trump deported the sicko. Stoned couldn't be bothered to look into the event until pressed by Rill. He redirected others to comment on an unrelated event from over 6 years ago. That is why I commented on his whataboutism.
This makes more sense to me now. You can have very good analysis when not digging in to protect your party. Kudos!
That’s why I said they should have looked at them individually. Held a sign on the sidewalk? OK, they didn’t deserve jail time. Assault officers, cause damage to property? Jail time, no pardon.
Where did I mention that at all? Doesn’t give people the right to assault officers or cause damage.
I feel the same exact way. Look at their actions individually, and penalize accordingly.
Not sure, I’m not in law enforcement or an attorney. If they broke the law, they should have been arrested and charged. Pretty simple.
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There were over 1,000 cases adjudicated. This feels like a sweeping analysis that doesn't engage with the actual rulings or actions of the crowd. AZ's post was much more reasonable on this.
This has been going on for a while. Obviously leading to incorrect data on who is doing what. I would guess this contributes to leftwing talking points in several areas.
She is hot! Good for her cashing in on her "Caitlyn protector" role. I am not sure she can do that without those looks. I still don't care about the WNBA and would prefer it not smashed in my face all the time.
However, I am enjoying the NBA summer league more this year. KW had a nice 3rd quarter yesterday. I think his ceiling is a 6'6 Stephen Curry.
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Apparently I am the only one that looked into it because it is substantially different than the RW snippet that you all reposted.
Find where I said I supported the pardon. I was merely pointing out the RW hypocrisy of focusing on one pardon where Fearless Leader pardoned 1,200 in one move.
Each had an individual trial with a jury if they wanted and a Judge. No mass trial. The fact that over a 1,000 were tried individually means there was no sweeping analysis.
Not really different at all. The major point is why would someone that you supported to be the USVP be part of the pardoning of a child predator to keep them free in the US?
Please quote where I stated you supported the pardon. Thanks
We all saw the Capitol riots, the violence, the hydrants, flag poles, bear spray, crushing in doors, breaking windows with our own eyes, many times. That is why I am amazed at the power of a cult, and how you Trumpers can be talked out of believing what you have seen with your own eyes. Curious psychological phenomenon.
Long debated here. Everyone knows each other's position. I am not taking the bait.
Wild animals are not petting zoo residents for idiot tourists.
Tupper Lake used to have an open large garbage dump out in the deep woods.
Dad always approached armed with his .45 pistol to protect from the brown/black bears, dumpster divers.
He came upon a Dad with 2 small children. The tourist Dad was trying to bait the bear with marshmallows. He would attempt to get a picture of the kids riding the bear !
Dad chased the tourist and family away with a few well chosen words !
Dad and a few friends later returned with enough fire power to eradiate the chummy bear and bury the remains.
You failed to respond to the current events being discussed again.
Here is the scenario as I see it here. It has been asserted that elected Dem leaders are a danger to our most vulnerable. I think we can all agree that Dems opened the borders to most anyone that wanted to come. The incentive appeared to go above and beyond humanitarian aid as there are several examples cited where US taxpayers were funding housing, travel, healthcare and daily living expenses. So, the invasion of millions happened for four years of Dem control. We have numerous examples of nonwhite criminals being labeled as white probably by random leftwing data entry employees. The idea is then reported that these poverty level invaders commit crime at a lower level than US citizens. Which flies in the face of the fact that humans in lower socioeconomic groups commit crimes at higher levels. It is estimated women or girls are sexually assaulted or raped somewhere between 60-80%(amnesty.org) on their way to the US border. I do not have a daughter, but Rill does and he has stated this(sexual assault) bothers him more as a father of daughters. I can understand that. I have a sister, wife and mother. I can't imagine how awful that would be to have them be a victim of SA or murder.
So, the US overwhelmingly elected Trump to clean this up. Cleaning this calamity up is messy business especially as law enforcement is being harassed along the way in cities that won't use local law enforcement to protect them. I can't imagine how hard it is to be an Ice agent right now.
The flow at the border all but stop when Trump was elected. Voters had been fighting very high inflation as the massive influx of humans entered our country raising demand for housing, food, medical, etc. So, the current administration has been rounding up criminals and when they do they sweep up some non-criminal(other than illegally entering/ staying in the US) Illegal aliens there get swept up also.
The left leaders are losing their mind over all of the above. They don't want the border fixed and they really don't want the illegals they allowed in to be deported. None of them. It is to the point where they will protect predators to the most vulnerable US citizens such as women and children. They don't even hide it.
The US government's top responsibility to its citizens, as outlined in the founding documents and constitutional framework, is to protect individual rights and liberties while ensuring the safety and security of the nation.
So, to my earlier question that you attempted to redirect, how can you vote for this especially at the highest level of government decision makers?
Please try to answer with something other than a "Trump is dumb" redirection. Prove you are brighter than that.
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