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[illinimike]

Epstein, Epstein, Epstein! He died in prison and his heinous accomplice is in prison.


Trump lacks decorum, but well done! No one here knew that before you showed up. The catholics are the last religion that should be lecturing anyone. How many boys needed to be molested before they finally did something. The leaderships first instincts were to cover it up for literally decades, so more Children could have their lives ruined. This Pope is a loon in a long line of Catholic loons. Surprise.

It was just Epstein and Maxwell. They were heinous, everyone adjacent are clean. Ok.

I never defended anyone Uncoach mentioned or you are mentioning (quite the opposite actually), y'all are kicking the **** out of that straw man though per the usual.

 

[ILisBest]

It was just Epstein and Maxwell. They were heinous, everyone adjacent are clean. Ok.

I never defended anyone Uncoach mentioned or you are mentioning (quite the opposite actually), y'all are kicking the **** out of that straw man though per the usual.

Sure Mike, weren't you making fun of Jesus Trump from his spat with the Pope? I must have imagined all of that.

Who else do you have proof of raping the Epstein victims? I have posted who I suspect there, but I have little idea who did what. So, share what you appear to know.

 

[tjfleck6]

Jeff, Mike and Icky’s guy! But Epstein! This is all a huge surprise after Fang Fang

 

[illinimike]

Sure Mike, weren't you making fun of Jesus Trump from his spat with the Pope? I must have imagined all of that.

Who else do you have proof of raping the Epstein victims? I have posted who I suspect there, but I have little idea who did what. So, share what you appear to know.

Yes you imagined it. The bad taste was posting the image, never said anything about his spat with the Pope. Nor implied it anywhere. I think you guys feed off each other and you actually don't read my posts. I was actually wondering what the hell Uncoach was going on and on about with Leo, LOL.

I don't think I said rape (although I'm sure actually investigating would reveal much). There are 3.5mil files. That's a lot of files for no crimes other than 2 people it seems. It's fine, if you feel justice has been served maybe I'm just wrong.

 

[dtrain79]

I don't know what today's arguments are, but here's my following takes:

1. The blockade of the Strait of Hormuz might be viable long term, but I don't know that it's the quick fix Trump wants. He needs to put some ground forces in the places Iran is utilizing to choke up the Strait/Kharg. There will be casualties, but the US has massive conventional military advantage. This is the way to send the "not f$$$ing around" message.

2. Terrible week for Vance, who campaigned for Viktor Orban a few days before he was annihilated in the Hungarian election and then went to Pakistan to look like a fool. A serious political party would never, ever nominate this loser in 2028, he has every downside of Trump without the real upside of Trump's fame and insult comic schtick.

3. It's going to be an awful year for "world populism." Orban was absolutely wrecked yesterday, and the Tisza 2/3s majority means many of his illiberal changes are headed straight into the Hungarian trash. The 2026 midterms are trending worse and worse for the newly populist GOP.

4. Some of the criticisms of Orban were unfair. He wasn't a dictator, he conceded defeat like a man (not all do, we've seen the alternative here). But what he became was a Russian asset against the EU/NATO and his steering of Hungarian government funds to his cronies stifled economic growth. Poland has a populist party that has been in and out of power without doing either of these things, and they've governed just fine (Poland is on an incredible trajectory towards becoming a real European power).

5. Big win for Ukraine. The "Russia will inevitably win this war" has looked laughably wrong for awhile, Ukraine has basically stopped Russian advances entirely and is winning the drone battles, and now Ukraine is going to get a $100B loan that will likely be forgiven (don't worry Trumpers, that's not American money but much of it will be spent on weapons built right here). Putin can give Trump a win by freezing the lines now, and if he doesn't, the outcome will end up worse for Putin.

 

[ILisBest]

Yes you imagined it. The bad taste was posting the image, never said anything about his spat with the Pope. Nor implied it anywhere. I think you guys feed off each other and you actually don't read my posts. I was actually wondering what the hell Uncoach was going on and on about with Leo, LOL.

I don't think I said rape (although I'm sure actually investigating would reveal much). There are 3.5mil files. That's a lot of files for no crimes other than 2 people it seems. It's fine, if you feel justice has been served maybe I'm just wrong.

I am open to the idea I am wrong, just need you to point it out. You brought up Epstein, so give it to us.

 

[Uncoach]

Says the one who is ok with all the people involved with Epstein. You are not a serious person.

This is a dumb post. It’s also a deflection. This forum discussed Epstein ad naseum with a bunch of stupid . Dtrain79 played forum daddy to your new pal, 7 Name Sam along with Rilla.

You deflected from this below because some Trump Jesus nonsense. I couldn’t care less. I vote for policy. Everybody knows he does dumb stuff that distracts from good policy.

 

[ILisBest]

I don't know what today's arguments are, but here's my following takes:

1. The blockade of the Strait of Hormuz might be viable long term, but I don't know that it's the quick fix Trump wants. He needs to put some ground forces in the places Iran is utilizing to choke up the Strait/Kharg. There will be casualties, but the US has massive conventional military advantage. This is the way to send the "not f$$$ing around" message.

2. Terrible week for Vance, who campaigned for Viktor Orban a few days before he was annihilated in the Hungarian election and then went to Pakistan to look like a fool. A serious political party would never, ever nominate this loser in 2028, he has every downside of Trump without the real upside of Trump's fame and insult comic schtick.

3. It's going to be an awful year for "world populism." Orban was absolutely wrecked yesterday, and the Tisza 2/3s majority means many of his illiberal changes are headed straight into the Hungarian trash. The 2026 midterms are trending worse and worse for the newly populist GOP.

4. Some of the criticisms of Orban were unfair. He wasn't a dictator, he conceded defeat like a man (not all do, we've seen the alternative here). But what he became was a Russian asset against the EU/NATO and his steering of Hungarian government funds to his cronies stifled economic growth. Poland has a populist party that has been in and out of power without doing either of these things, and they've governed just fine (Poland is on an incredible trajectory towards becoming a real European power).

5. Big win for Ukraine. The "Russia will inevitably win this war" has looked laughably wrong for awhile, Ukraine has basically stopped Russian advances entirely and is winning the drone battles, and now Ukraine is going to get a $100B loan that will likely be forgiven (don't worry Trumpers, that's not American money but much of it will be spent on weapons built right here). Putin can give Trump a win by freezing the lines now, and if he doesn't, the outcome will end up worse for Putin.

Vance is a thousand times the debater Trump is, but Trump's one line to Hillary, "because you would be in jail" was a pretty well landed knockout punch in 2015. I think Vance had a miss on his take for more diplomacy in Iran, but the conflict doesn't seem popular rn even though the possibilities of crazy Mullahs having a Nuke are horrifying.

Trump did well to tell NATO he will sell them weapons for Ukraine as opposed to the Biden/ Harris policy.

NATO will leave us to pay and fight these battles for them. If I were Marco Rubio, I would redraw an alliance of countries that would equally support the US that has some teeth. Maybe combining the Shield of Americas with committed Nato/ Board of Peace members. A good presentation to Trump could flip him into something better. JMO

 

[tjfleck6]

 

[Uncoach]

I don't know what today's arguments are, but here's my following takes:

1. The blockade of the Strait of Hormuz might be viable long term, but I don't know that it's the quick fix Trump wants. He needs to put some ground forces in the places Iran is utilizing to choke up the Strait/Kharg. There will be casualties, but the US has massive conventional military advantage. This is the way to send the "not f$$$ing around" message.

2. Terrible week for Vance, who campaigned for Viktor Orban a few days before he was annihilated in the Hungarian election and then went to Pakistan to look like a fool. A serious political party would never, ever nominate this loser in 2028, he has every downside of Trump without the real upside of Trump's fame and insult comic schtick.

3. It's going to be an awful year for "world populism." Orban was absolutely wrecked yesterday, and the Tisza 2/3s majority means many of his illiberal changes are headed straight into the Hungarian trash. The 2026 midterms are trending worse and worse for the newly populist GOP.

4. Some of the criticisms of Orban were unfair. He wasn't a dictator, he conceded defeat like a man (not all do, we've seen the alternative here). But what he became was a Russian asset against the EU/NATO and his steering of Hungarian government funds to his cronies stifled economic growth. Poland has a populist party that has been in and out of power without doing either of these things, and they've governed just fine (Poland is on an incredible trajectory towards becoming a real European power).

5. Big win for Ukraine. The "Russia will inevitably win this war" has looked laughably wrong for awhile, Ukraine has basically stopped Russian advances entirely and is winning the drone battles, and now Ukraine is going to get a $100B loan that will likely be forgiven (don't worry Trumpers, that's not American money but much of it will be spent on weapons built right here). Putin can give Trump a win by freezing the lines now, and if he doesn't, the outcome will end up worse for Putin.

I am not sure it was a terrible week for Vance. Orban was going to lose with or without his assistance. I think the importance of Vance being part of the negotiation team is that he was able to see how radical the Iranian regime is and how delusional they are. He is not fond of military use from what I gather. Hopefully it got him on the same page with Trump, Rubio & Co. As for 2028, Vance is a good rep. He’s quick on his feet and an excellent debater. However, Rubio gets the Trump foreign policy. He saw Iran for what the regime was. He’s spot on with revoking green cards, etc. He could make a very good candidate in 2028. Better than JD as of now. I think DeSantis learned a lot the last cycle. He could still be strong. What are the chances Trump waits to permanently fill the AG spot until after November, when DeSantis is a lame duck? I personally think he would be a great AG, but perhaps you would have some food for thought on that.

 

[Uncoach]

Yes you imagined it. The bad taste was posting the image, never said anything about his spat with the Pope. Nor implied it anywhere. I think you guys feed off each other and you actually don't read my posts. I was actually wondering what the hell Uncoach was going on and on about with Leo, LOL.

I don't think I said rape (although I'm sure actually investigating would reveal much). There are 3.5mil files. That's a lot of files for no crimes other than 2 people it seems. It's fine, if you feel justice has been served maybe I'm just wrong.

LOL. You brought up Trump Jesus and kept bringing up Trump Jesus. Unlike you, who still hasn’t answered my post because you are a political lightweight like your new friend, I answered your comments about Trump Jesus. You just didn’t like the answers. No soup for you!

 

[Semi-elite R2R athlete]

LOL. You brought up Trump Jesus and kept bringing up Trump Jesus. Unlike you, who still hasn’t answered my post because you are a political lightweight like your new friend, I answered your comments about Trump Jesus. You just didn’t like the answers. No soup for you!

“Political lightweight” LOLOL

 

[Uncoach]

Great policy.

 

[illinimike]

“Political lightweight” LOLOL

So much for my run as forum prez. Lol

 

[illinimike]

I am not sure it was a terrible week for Vance. Orban was going to lose with or without his assistance. I think the importance of Vance being part of the negotiation team is that he was able to see how radical the Iranian regime is and how delusional they are. He is not fond of military use from what I gather. Hopefully it got him on the same page with Trump, Rubio & Co. As for 2028, Vance is a good rep. He’s quick on his feet and an excellent debater. However, Rubio gets the Trump foreign policy. He saw Iran for what the regime was. He’s spot on with revoking green cards, etc. He could make a very good candidate in 2028. Better than JD as of now. I think DeSantis learned a lot the last cycle. He could still be strong. What are the chances Trump waits to permanently fill the AG spot until after November, when DeSantis is a lame duck? I personally think he would be a great AG, but perhaps you would have some food for thought on that.

Vance was hung out to dry, a deal was never gonna happen.