Man, that 1990 season was a disappointment! They had some dudes on that defense, Mike Croel, Bruce "Easy" Pickens, Tyronne Legget, Reggie Cooper, Curtis Cotton, Kenny Walker, Joe Sim.
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Man, that 1990 season was a disappointment! They had some dudes on that defense, Mike Croel, Bruce "Easy" Pickens, Tyronne Legget, Reggie Cooper, Curtis Cotton, Kenny Walker, Joe Sim.
I didn’t realize that his only experience as a DC was 2 years at UCF. Ugh. Maybe things will work out, but there are a lot of yellow flags .......(no pun intended)
Not where it needs to be from what? Championship level? 9-3? Winning season? Not winless?
I think we at least have enough talent on this defense to have a winning season, even if the defense has to pull the offense. I think we could even be at 9-3 level talent, but it's hard to tell because none of the players are playing anywhere near their potential. Do we have championship level talent? No. Do we have 0-6 level talent? No.
We are talking from opposite ends of the spectrum. I agree we don’t have 0-6 talent. Our talent is better than that.
But I don’t believe 9-3 either with the schedule we have this year. We should be, at worst, 4-2 right now. Our talent isn’t good enough to go 5-1 the rest of the way. 7-5 or even 8-4 maybe...
Shaquim Griffin, and Mike Hughes say hello...
We get talent like that on the field next year and we will be a different team. He needs playmakers like them on his defense for it to thrive the way he wants it.
We get talent like that on the field next year and we will be a different team. He needs playmakers like them on his defense for it to thrive the way he wants it.
And this has been my point since day one with Frost and all the hype about records and winning championships. Look up and down the roster and where do you see the difference makers? They are not likely to come from the freshman class coming in so where are they to come from? Then you look at players who were less than successful and all of the sudden you expect them to be world beaters - generally does not happen that way.
We have zero Cornerbacks or Pass Rushers committed in our 2019 class. Where are those playmakers going to come from?
Since non-conf schedules vary so much per team....now that all Big Ten Schools have played at least 3 conf games...here's how Nebraska stacks up in these conf rankings (doesn't tell the full story but a snap shot at possible strength/weaknesses)
Passing Yards per game:
#7 Nebraska: 268.5 yds per game
Passing Defense:
#13 Nebraska: 288.0 yds per game
Net Punting:
#12 Nebraska: 36.2 yds
Kickoff Coverage
#2 Nebraska: 41.7
Offensive First Downs
#3 Nebraska 23.3 per game
Opponents First Downs
#13 Nebraska 26.3 per game
3rd Down Conversion
#11 Nebraska 33.3%
Opponent 3rd Down Conversion
#11 Nebraska 45.9%
4th Down Conversion
#14 Nebraska 0% (0-6)
Opponents 4th Down Conversion
#12 Nebraska 80% (4-5)
Penalties
#13 Nebraska 101 yds per game
Passing Yards per game:
#7 Nebraska: 268.5 yds per game
Passing Defense:
#13 Nebraska: 288.0 yds per game
Net Punting:
#12 Nebraska: 36.2 yds
Kickoff Coverage
#2 Nebraska: 41.7
Offensive First Downs
#3 Nebraska 23.3 per game
Opponents First Downs
#13 Nebraska 26.3 per game
3rd Down Conversion
#11 Nebraska 33.3%
Opponent 3rd Down Conversion
#11 Nebraska 45.9%
4th Down Conversion
#14 Nebraska 0% (0-6)
Opponents 4th Down Conversion
#12 Nebraska 80% (4-5)
Penalties
#13 Nebraska 101 yds per game
Do we fire the whole defensive staff or maybe we can get rid of some weak links along the way.
By the third year, I expect a top 50 defense, if not. The weak parts of the defense should be identifiable by then. The assistants should be fired that underperform. That would buy Chins another year in my book. Four years with staffing changes. Refuse to fire your friends? Three years.
I could get behind firing Fisher right now. I see regression.
That didn’t stop people like your calling for McBride’s head on a platter. Oh, and Nebraska beat NOBODY that year in conference with a winning record (combined 20-32-2) and the 3 non-con victories were against teams with a combined record of 18-14-1. So the victories were against team with a combined record of 38-46-3. So just how good was that defense???
And if you don’t realize that college football is a completely different game today than it was in 1990 then you are beyond help. Ask some of the guys who played back then.
In 1990 there were 17 teams who allowed less than 300 yards a game. 2018, as of last week...8. The game is different today.
You are a prime example of of the expression “Figures don’t lie but liars can figure.”
When Chin gets guys here that are better suited to run his 3-4, and his D sucks, then I’ll be on board for letting him go. I’m not stupid enough and impulsive enough to call for his firing after 6 games in year 1, at a program that was a dumpster fire, and they are trying to put the fire out. Especially if his boss doesn’t want him fired.
Offense:
32nd - total yards
96th - points per game
Defense
100th - yards allowed
111th - points allowed per game
Our offensive coordinator and the guy calling the offensive plays are doing far less with more compared to Chins
32nd - total yards
96th - points per game
Defense
100th - yards allowed
111th - points allowed per game
Our offensive coordinator and the guy calling the offensive plays are doing far less with more compared to Chins
No I wouldn't be calling for McBride's head because I'm not that dumb. I don't think McBride ever had a defense ranked in the bottom half of scoring or yards. Our defense right now is one of the very worst in college football. They are completely different situations.
Yeah it was a different game, but it wasn't any harder or easier to win back then. It was still the exact same level of competition and you have to follow the same rules everyone else does. McBride didn't have it any easier than Chinander.
We were already transitioning to a 3-4 last year, so that's not an excuse. When Riley was here, people were shoving down our throats how great of a recruiter Riley was, so that's not an excuse either. This is a bad defense this year, and that's on Chinander. And when did I ever call for his firing? It appears I'm not the liar here.
What? I don't know how you can take those stats and draw that conclusion. Those stats show our offense is bad in certain situations: on 3rd downs, penalties, and turnovers. It also shows that our defense is just bad in general.
The offense’s job is to score points. The defense’s job is to prevent points. Both are near the bottom of college football ... the fact that we are 32nd in offensive yards per game but 96th in scoring suggests to me the offense is underperforming relative to their potential more than the defense.
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Three years for a top 50 defense? Setting the bar real high there.
The hell it wasn’t easier to win back then. We were in a conference with 2 teams with a pulse. Oh and we lost to both of them in 1990.
We’ve had bad defenses for years, and it’s Chin’s fault for not fixing that in 6 games? Got it.
Keep trying .
Head coaches who hire Ed Orgeron lose their jobs within 2 seasons.
In 3 years if this offense is clicking exactly how long do you think the defense is going to be on the field? If Nebraska scores 40 plus points a game exactly how many possessions do you expect the opponents to get? If we start blowing teams out are we going to leave starters in those games to ensure the all important stats are better to make sure you are happy?
Lol ok, yeah go ask those players who played back then. I'm sure they'd agree with you it was easier to win back then.Laughing Two teams with a pulse huh? You mean the one that won a national title that year?
Meanwhile Alabama's wiping the floor with everybody. Yeah it's so much harder to win nowadays!Laughing
Was Georgia Tech in our conference? I’ll add reading comprehension with selective memory to your list of issues.
Alabama is scoring 54 points a game and their defense is top 15 after losing one of the best defensive coordinators in the country. I think the bar should be set a little higher than having top 50 defenses.
I like to be realistic. We have no depth defensively. The defense held the goofs yo 8 points until the waning moments of the first half.
We may eventually have a top 20 defense, but the offense isn't conducive towards that. I will be happy with improvement.
I bet we have a top 20 offense next year though.
These so called fans calling out coaches 6 games in GTFO. If we see the struggle in 2-3 years so be it I will be on that bandwagon. But ffs let's let some continuity happen here. Let's not forget the offense hasn't helped the defense in certain part of the season. Give it a chance before you pull out the pitch forks