New Athletic Director
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Good lord, surely you don't want to hire ANOTHER baseball coach as AD. Lemonis is a damn good baseball coach. For an AD we need a professional athletic director. The days of hiring ex-coaches are LONG gone. We screwed up royally.
Serious question: who do y'all want as AD? And who do you think we have a legitimate shot of getting?
If they have tons of experience in the MSU athletics world….
…..they need NOT apply, if you ask me.
Byrne was the best AD we’ve had in my lifetime and he had no ties to State. If we have to recycle ADs every 3-4 years because they leave for bigger jobs, it’s a good thing. ADs are totally expendable…. head coaches are NOT. And we don’t need some junior associate that used to make copies for Cohen taking the reins.
…..they need NOT apply, if you ask me.
Byrne was the best AD we’ve had in my lifetime and he had no ties to State. If we have to recycle ADs every 3-4 years because they leave for bigger jobs, it’s a good thing. ADs are totally expendable…. head coaches are NOT. And we don’t need some junior associate that used to make copies for Cohen taking the reins.
Who follows real athletic administrators enough to know? We just need to get a professional AD, not an ex coach. Many years ago that worked. The business end has become so big and so complicated that hiring someone from outside the profession is just stupid.
No idea but the current situation in athletics is not good. We has regressed in every sport not named baseball since Cohen has been made AD. We will see how men’s basketball season goes this year. And our fans are getting more and more apathetic about showing up at sporting events. And it’s not just because of tv and everyone is going through it… games on tv with other teams are constantly packed. And we packed out Dudy Noble this past season as well
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So you’re adamant that Cohen has to go, but you have no criteria for his replacement other than it must be a “professional AD”? Hysterical. Cohen is a professional AD. Regardless of his strengths / weaknesses coming into the job, he’s been running an SEC athletic department for 5 years.
Change just for the sake of change is not a good thing. Its especially not a good thing when you are talking about firing the guy that hired our only national championship coach in school history. So if you want a change, OK that’s fine. I don’t really agree with all the rhetoric there but its a fine opinion to have. But its clear you have an axe to grind when you’re saying that anyone who is a “professional AD” will do. It could be A LOT worse for us than Cohen. Schools with many more resources than MSU have had complete clown show situations with their athletic directors. Look at the John Currie - Philip Fulmer **** show at Tennessee. The revolving door at LSU. If you’re ousting a “made man” in the MSU family, you better have a lot better plan than just going to hire any slap dick AD from the Sun Belt if the fanbase and, more importantly, the boosters are to get behind it.
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We need a real athletic director. We need a professional, not a baseball coach. I'm sorry but the qualifications for the two are completely different now. I grew up in the era when the football coach was usually the AD. Times have changed. John Cohen was in no way qualified to do anything not related to baseball. He hired a great baseball coach. He has been a total failure at anything other than that.
Should have been Scott Wetherbee. But he left and went to Eastern Michigan
What you don’t get is that he isn’t a baseball coach anymore. He hasn’t been one for 5 years. I didn’t love that we hired him in the first place, but he’s been the guy for 5 years who has grown into the role of doing all the normal AD functions. Hiring and firing coaches is just one of those many things, and by the way it’s far from something in which he has full autonomy. He definitely doesn’t have that autonomy in football. Fundraising is the other big one. Has he done well there? Do you know? It would seem that you don’t, based on your “nobody really follows these administrators” comment.
If you fire him now and replace him with some dude who has been the AD at Akron or Western Kentucky or some ****, you are just getting a guy with the same experience level but at a lesser profile institution. And you’re also getting one without the baseball acumen that we have as a built in bonus, currently. That’s change for the sake of change, which is not a win for us. You need to address the specific shortcomings. And if your opinion is that he sucks because of Moorhead and Leach? Guess what chief….those decisions are largely coming from above his head in many instances. We don’t go spending $5 million a year on Leach after paying Moorhead’s buyout without serious blessings from the big money guys. Cohen is the face of these hires, but he’s far from the only one making them. An astonishing number of people don’t understand that.
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What you don't get is that he is an ex BASEBALL coach. He doesn't know a damn thing about anything but his own minor sport, college baseball. He has no training or experience as an athletic director. That is a highly specialized field these days. I'm in no way qualified but I'm as qualified as John Cohen to be athletic director, maybe more so. I own my own business.
Oh, by the way, figureheads are always the first scapegoats. If he ISN'T a figure head then there is some hope. If he is then get ready for another 1950s to the late 80s.
Have not read any replies to this OP ^^^^^ but don't give this POS the satisfaction of replying to his post. He's fishing like a few others on here. Come on guys be aware if you're not.
That kid from Wofford who owns the Savanah Bananas. Who wouldn't want to see our AD running around Davis Wade in a maroon tuxedo??
https://youtu.be/T5RkB7_qNh8
Of course he wanted the job— he was the interim AD after all and MSU has a long history of promoting from within the department.
But once Cohen was named, he knew he had to go elsewhere to be an AD.
But once Cohen was named, he knew he had to go elsewhere to be an AD.
I’ll take the job and I’ll put every major decision in a new post here on SPS. Whichever direction the upvote/downvote swings will be the direction of the decision. Since all the posters here are experts and not trolls (Goat & Irish excluded), I’m sure the Athletic Department and all of the programs will be Top 3 in the country in no time. ************
Cohen isn’t going anywhere. He is firmly entrenched with the big money people and he takes very good care of them. He also has about 5 years’ experience as an AD, so the “he isn’t qualified to be an AD” is moot. AD’s are politicians, which is why they get the jobs in the first place-and JC is a very savvy politician. The only people who can fire him are the very people whose asses he kisses-and he is their “boy”. I’m not saying that’s right or wrong, I’m just saying that’s how it is. As far as his hiring of football coaches, baseball coaches, etc., he doesn’t hire a single one without the blessings of the money guys. Remember that, and you will have no questions. In other words, he would have to really piss off a few key people to get fired-and he is smart enough to know that.
Of all the dumb **** that has been posted on this board over the years, this may take the cake.
Obviously this won’t change, but it’s a major issue that’s holding us back. The big donors exert so much power and influence, but most don’t know Jack **** about running a world class organization. MSU competes at a national level and expecting it to run like your redneck empire is not a recipe for success.
