Quade Green is the 3rd pg Cal has now officially officially offered in the '17 class.. Young is the top get but would be nice to land Waters or Green to go along with Young.. We need a lot of bodies year after next.. And Green has a very good game.. His coach says he's a Tyler Ulis but taller..
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Exactly! We need bodies, so no doubt Cal was gonna cast a large net!
I wouldn't be disappointed with a taller Ulis
As tweeted by Ben Roberts:
Quade Green -- latest recipient of UK offer -- leads Nike league in assists (10.5) & steals (2.9). Elite point guard.
Quade Green -- latest recipient of UK offer -- leads Nike league in assists (10.5) & steals (2.9). Elite point guard.
Green has been generating a lot of buzz this summer. He's up to #22 in ESPN's rankings and will probably crack the top-20 in most rankings. He was just named the MVP of an EYBL camp.
Great player, listed anywhere from 5-11 to 6-1.
Great player, listed anywhere from 5-11 to 6-1.
I haven't heard anything linking us to Sexton.
And I wouldn't expect Trae Young to slide on our priority list. All the reports I have seen say he played great and put up eye-catching numbers. Like a triple/double followed by 41pts 11ast during the EYBL. And his AAU team is 13-3 heading into the Peach Jam.
Yeah I'm pretty sure Trae is still priority one, but I'm sure Cal would take both. It's unlikely but heck, if Cal could get Murray with Ulis AND Briscoe on the roster, nothing's impossible.
If nothing else, this may light a fire under Trae's butt if he's thinking about taking his time. Now he knows there's someone else who may decide to pull the trigger at any point.
With Green? No idea.
I think we are the leaders for Young. But we are just starting to look at Green. I'd love to think we could take both and some years we can make that work. If I were to guess right now I'd say we get Young and not Green.
I would love both Young and Green. I would like to add Trent and wish wed start recruiting Sexton. Saw a stat, dont remember where, that in EYBL i think Sexton had 181 FT attempts and next closest was Trae Young with 90ish. Dude is constantly in attack mode and id hate for him to go to Kansas.
Who was the guy for 2017 ranked in the 20s that said if he didn't get an offer from uk soon he would cut them? Is it this guy or someone else? I read the story two days ago on 24/7 but forgot his name
Young for KU? Not much. Think we're a distant 3rd behind OU and UK.
I'm hoping KU goes all out for Sexton although Alabama, Florida, and Texas are said to be in there pretty good as top 3.
Who do you guys think you will sign?
I haven't seen where you guys lead for anyone other than Ayton.
Right now I think Ayton is the only one. If it starts to become clear that he'll be eligible before he commits anywhere then I think that becomes murky as I see UK and Arizona both making runs at him if that's the case.
No clue on who KU signs. Can't even make a solid guess.
We need to get at least one of Bamba, Carter, or Ayton, or the next class is going to be a bust - I don't care who else we sign.
Cal's teams need a strong frontcourt to thrive - last year proved that, and Richards/Vanderbilt or Richards/Washington ain't going to get it - especially if Duke lands Bamba/Carter.
Cal's teams need a strong frontcourt to thrive - last year proved that, and Richards/Vanderbilt or Richards/Washington ain't going to get it - especially if Duke lands Bamba/Carter.
One of the guys who is a "guru" (for lack of a better term) on KU recruiting thinks Ayton is a priority. At the point guard, Young is KU's priority, but thinks we can get Sexton if Young goes elsewhere. Also thinks we look good for Tilmon and Brown, but everything will clear up when they see who the staff prioritizes during the summer session.
I agree Cal needs to cast a wide net in recruiting this year. Let's say just for the sake of argument that Wynyard, Humphries, SJK, and Gabriel return that still leaves him with 8-9 scholly's to give, and we're going to be decimated in the backcourt. If that happens, and we have some good bigs returning I'd like to see him pick up a couple of 3/4 star multi year guys ala Dom and Willis. I'm all good with the OAD's, but we need a little stability from time to time.
I can see you guys getting Tilmon. Howard is the lead recruiter and he is good with Illinois kids.
You guys always seem to get an elite SF, so Brown makes sense.
A class of Sexton, Brown, Tilmon, and Ayton would be very good with what you have coming back.
G Graham/Sexton
G Newman/Vick
F Brown/Mykhailiuk
F Tilmon/Lightfoot
F Ayton/Azubuike
A veteran backcourt and young talent inside. Pretty good combination if it plays out that way.
If Gabriel, SKJ, and Hump return, then Richards/Vanderbilt (or Washington) is enough.
Starters
G Young(6'1 FR)
G Diallo(6'5 FR)
F Gabriel(6'9 SO)
F Killeya-Jones(6'10 SO)
F Richards(6'11 FR)
Key Reserves
G Petty(6'5 FR)
F Washington(6'8 FR) or Vanderbilt(6'9 FR)
F Wynyard(6'10 SO)
F Humphries(7'0 JR)
I wouldn't be surprised to see us land Vanderbilt and Washington. There's going to be plenty of room on the roster.
Need to sign a another guard or two in that class as well.
Now if SKJ and Gabriel are both OAD, then we really do need to land Bamba, Carter, or Ayton.
I think that unless SKJ really plays beyond expectations this season, he will come back.
I also believe that we have a good chance to get Gabriel back. He is learning to play on the wing, so he may need another year before he is ready to be a NBA caliber SF.
Hump likely plays three seasons. He is very young still. He won't even be 20 until midway though his Junior year.
He'll be eligible for next year's draft. He hasn't been until this year. There was thought that he might have left after this past season to go play pro in Europe, but he met with his family and decided to come back for his Junior year. Graham is likely to at least test the draft this year. Given the rules, he'd be foolish not to. Plus he's old for his class.
Drafted? He needs a big Junior year to get drafted. He's behind Jackson, a lottery pick, at the 3, so that is going to be hard to come by.
He might go back home and play, but I don't see him being drafted into the NBA, not in what should be a loaded '17 draft.
True. He'll need a big year. He has a lot of skills for his size that translate to what NBA teams covet. That said, if he doesn't break out this season, he'll probably head to Europe and get paid. A lot of examples of players coming off the bench to get drafted.
He's 25 in this mock: http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2017/
It's way more important for a Cal Pg to be a facilitator than a scorer. And in this instance I see green as being a way more valuable asset to a future team. Young is a better scorer. But green can score and is a much better passer. And from a PG, especially a cal coached PG. I want the one who makes buckets easy for his teammates. Not one who likes to score a lot. Can hurt team chemistry if your PG wants to take a high volume of shots. I see young as like a tyus jones type and I see green as more of a Ulis type. And I'll take the Ulis type over the Tyus jones type everyday of the week and twice on Sunday's. Give me green and his ability to run an offense and get his teammates involved over young and his ability to score everyday of the week from the PG spot. Would love to have both like we did with wall and Bledsoe in a perfect world.
How can you use Tyler as your example when he was a big time scorer? He has the highest PPG of any of Cal's PG since he has been here. Tyler was a great scorer last year for us. None of Cal's PG have been that sole facilitator type. Tyler was also a good facilitator but the kid scored the ball too. Would love to see him with this year's team.
Never said ulis couldn't score, point is green can also score. What I was getting at is he's a facilitator first scorer second. Never by any means meant facilitators couldn't score. But if you're telling me ulis was a scorer first facilitator second then you're dead wrong. Also if he's in the mold of Ulis then I'll take that every day of the week. If ulis only had decent big men his numbers would've been that much more gaudy, we didn't have big men though so we relied heavily on him scoring. John wall was also a pure point guard who could score, and you could be right about ulis but he scored more than knight and wall did? Kinda hard to believe but maybe, don't care to look the stats up.
Where do you guys stand with Vanderbilt? There seems to be 2 or 3 recruits that Cal seems to drop or put on the back burner for other recruits each year. With Vanderbilt's foot injury, combo forward status, and little drop in play this spring I could see him being put on the back burner by UK. Usually we swoop in and grab one or 2 of those guys. Is Vanderbilt still your #1 target at SF?
Yes, Ulis had the highest PPG in a season of any PG that Cal has had here. Wall and Knight scored more points but they played more games. Wall only scored 10 more points than Tyler.
My point was that Tyler was both. I felt like your comment was using Tyler as the example of a pure facilitator and diminishing his scoring. I see your point of the need for the PG to facilitate but that's in any system also. Cal has always adapted how he plays to his players. He has never been set in a system that he runs. He was known for the DDM but he definitely doesn't stick strictly to that. That's all. I see your point though. We aren't in disagreement.
I really like Knox but looks like he has Duke written all over him. I do like Vanderbilt over Petty though.
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Depends on if you consider PJ Washington a SF. He's kind of a combo too. And it seems Cal prefers him to Vanderbilt and I agree. I also agree that Knox would be best case but I have very little hope for that.
I would just love for us to get a SF that can shoot and score. I trust Cal though, that's for sure.