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huskerbaseball13

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He took over a cellar dwelling Mountain Westesque conference team who was scheduling accordingly. How many power 5 teams was he supposed to beat at CSU? I still say his resume looked very good and looked like what we needed. He proved that at least in the short term he could build a program in to a winner with his own recruits. He did in fact do that there and here. The issue appears to be winning consistently and taking his team to the next level.

I’m not saying he resume wasn’t good enough but he got the job in large part because Osborne loved that he was recruiting Nebraska boys. Which is ironic because he comes to Nebraska and doesn’t offer two local kids that were nba draft picks and a third that is going to end up being near the top of the list for all time scoring leaders.
 

Redscarlet

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I’m not saying he resume wasn’t good enough but he got the job in large part because Osborne loved that he was recruiting Nebraska boys. Which is ironic because he comes to Nebraska and doesn’t offer two local kids that were nba draft picks and a third that is going to end up being near the top of the list for all time scoring leaders.

Who is going to end up third in all time scoring leaders?
Surely your talking in the state scoring leader..
 

schuele

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Who is going to end up third in all time scoring leaders?
Surely your talking in the state scoring leader..
Assume he means Mike Daum at SDSU, who's approaching 3,000 career points.

I've never bagged on Miles for passing on Daum, but the fact that he gave a scholarship to Nick Fuller that same year remains a head-scratcher. Fuller had zero chance of ever being an impact player in the Big Ten.
 
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huskerbaseball13

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Assume he means Mike Daum at SDSU, who's approaching 3,000 career points.

I've never bagged on Miles for passing on Daum, but the fact that he gave a scholarship to Nick Fuller that same year remains a head-scratcher. Fuller had zero chance of ever being an impact player in the Big Ten.

Yeah Daum was obviously a late bloomer. But, to not offer Patton or Khyri is ahead scratcher. Don’t know if they would have ended up at Nebraska bad he done so but it was a bad look for Miles.
 
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JohnRossEwing

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I will say this, when it comes to recuiting...Miles came from a dump of a school (in terms of recruiting power) and you end up at NU with a new building and all the bells and whistles in an amazing conference and I think sometimes you think that you want to "shoot your shot" and go after "bigger names" because finally you feel like you can.
 

Redscarlet

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Assume he means Mike Daum at SDSU, who's approaching 3,000 career points.

I've never bagged on Miles for passing on Daum, but the fact that he gave a scholarship to Nick Fuller that same year remains a head-scratcher. Fuller had zero chance of ever being an impact player in the Big Ten.

Thanks, At the present time Lineol Simmons from La Salle ( 1986-1990) is 3rd in all time scoring with 3217 points.
 

TheNewNU_rivals50820

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Assume he means Mike Daum at SDSU, who's approaching 3,000 career points.

I've never bagged on Miles for passing on Daum, but the fact that he gave a scholarship to Nick Fuller that same year remains a head-scratcher. Fuller had zero chance of ever being an impact player in the Big Ten.
It's hard to blame Miles for missing on Daum when both McDermott and Hansen from UNO missed on him too. No one knew Daum was going to be a 3 time Summit league player of the year. They thought he was gonna be a contributor and guy in the rotation at a place like SDSU or UNO, or a bench warmer at a Nebraska.
 

schuele

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It's hard to blame Miles for missing on Daum when both McDermott and Hansen from UNO missed on him too. No one knew Daum was going to be a 3 time Summit league player of the year. They thought he was gonna be a contributor and guy in the rotation at a place like SDSU or UNO, or a bench warmer at a Nebraska.
I agree - Colorado, CSU and Wyoming all passed on Daum as well. But when you pass on Daum because you don’t think he’s Big Ten material and then sign Nick Fuller, it contributes to a chronically thin roster.
 

TheNewNU_rivals50820

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I agree - Colorado, CSU and Wyoming all passed on Daum as well. But when you pass on Daum because you don’t think he’s Big Ten material and then sign Nick Fuller, it contributes to a chronically thin roster.
No arguments about Fuller. He had cinder blocks for feet.
 

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Maybe, donno, but I do know there are 353 D1 teams playing basketball.
Ok, you are right. Let me rephrase that. There isn't a decent D1 school in the country who would still have him as their coach.
 
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huskerbaseball13

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Maybe, donno, but I do know there are 353 D1 teams playing basketball.

He will get a mid major job and probably be pretty good for whatever program.

He just doesn’t have enough offense X’s And O’s to be a decent high Major. Announcers have been perplexed by our offensive sets going on 7 years now. It goes far beyond his recruits not being able to shoot the ball.
 

dinglefritz

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He will get a mid major job and probably be pretty good for whatever program.

He just doesn’t have enough offense X’s And O’s to be a decent high Major. Announcers have been perplexed by our offensive sets going on 7 years now. It goes far beyond his recruits not being able to shoot the ball.
It's a little funny that when I watch NBA basketball I see some teams in the NBA do very similar things that Miles tries to do with his high post hand offs, ball screens, etc. The difference is that the NBA teams that run the same concepts are soooo much better at it. Then if somebody gets doubled they almost always have an open guy who can drain a 3. You have to be able to set good screens, USE the screen correctly and then make a shot. We don't do any of those. Then we stand around more than any team I've ever seen when somebody plops a zone on us.
 

Redscarlet

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It's a little funny that when I watch NBA basketball I see some teams in the NBA do very similar things that Miles tries to do with his high post hand offs, ball screens, etc. The difference is that the NBA teams that run the same concepts are soooo much better at it. Then if somebody gets doubled they almost always have an open guy who can drain a 3. You have to be able to set good screens, USE the screen correctly and then make a shot. We don't do any of those. Then we stand around more than any team I've ever seen when somebody plops a zone on us.

Miles needs to be reminded he isn’t coaching a NBA team then..
 

TheNewNU_rivals50820

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He will get a mid major job and probably be pretty good for whatever program.

He just doesn’t have enough offense X’s And O’s to be a decent high Major. Announcers have been perplexed by our offensive sets going on 7 years now. It goes far beyond his recruits not being able to shoot the ball.
I've talked to people that know Miles and they told me his offense is very basic because he believes in putting athletes in space that will allow them to make plays and be successful. He does not believe in out scheming people. That's just not his M.O.
 

dinglefritz

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I've talked to people that know Miles and they told me his offense is very basic because he believes in putting athletes in space that will allow them to make plays and be successful. He does not believe in out scheming people. That's just not his M.O.
The space thing only works if you have multiple guys that can make shots and right now we don't. It's too easy to double or plug the lane if you can't make an outside shot. That's our biggest problem. The next issue is that our best offensive threats don't use their picks effectively. Most of the called plays from the bench out of time outs work pretty well. His baseline out of bounds plays though are not great. The biggest problem for Miles is NOT his offense. The biggest problem he's had is in recruiting enough talent and maybe more importantly RETAINING guys. Something's wrong when 2 starters transfer out in 1 year from a B1G program. Man Jacobsen looked great against OU last night and it wasn't anything different than what he did for us in the paint 2 years ago. Just hustle, rebounding and scoring around the bucket.