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I mean, we'll just have to see. You had Sankey say this:

During an interview on ESPN Radio on Saturday, SEC commissioner Greg Sankey was asked about a potential domino effect among the FBS conferences. He referred to the basketball tournament shutdowns in March, when all leagues made independent decisions but reached the same conclusion. "We want to be connected, but the best example is back in March… Different conferences made independent decisions but all arrived at the same destination."


Ok so Moos is making calls, but the reality is, it'll be another week, maybe two before we figure out who really intends to dance. Or it could be all over, even the rogueness, in 72 hours as the conferences domino an no partner remains.
True. It'll be interesting to see it play out. I'm sure the Pac-12 will cancel, cancel cancel, not postpone cancel. I would then expect Oregon to attempt to find games akin to what Nebraska is discussing.

I am not confident in the other three Power 5 conferences toeing the line in a show of unity, though.
 

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True. It'll be interesting to see it play out. I'm sure the Pac-12 will cancel, cancel cancel, not postpone cancel. I would then expect Oregon to attempt to find games akin to what Nebraska is discussing.

I am not confident in the other three Power 5 conferences toeing the line in a show of unity, though.

Yah I think the biggest surprised for me has been the relative lack of aggressiveness out of the SEC, Sankey in particular.
 
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LOL i think your suicide numbers are falsified too. Wait ....you didn't provide any. whether it is dangerous or not totally depends on one's opinion of dangerous. thats why there are so many differing opinions. If your mom died you probably think its pretty dangerous. if you live in the middle of nowhere and dont know anyone you probably dont think its dangerous.


Here's your sign... https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...ovid-cdc-director-says/ar-BB17iype?li=BBnb7Kz
(CDC) Director Robert Redfield, MD, candidly discussed how school closures have affected children and teenagers across the country—and how previously existing issues are becoming an even bigger problem for young people. "We're seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We're seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID," Redfield said.
 
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Ya'll don't have to agree with me. But you also don't get to spew out a bunch of hate-mongering right-wing garbage without being challenged on it, either. I mean, fair's fair. Or are we being snowflakes now?
Seems like everything you disagree with Is "right wing". You struggle to discern logical dissent from politicaly charged/influenced opinions. Perhaps you have been indoctrinated into the "thought" process of liberal hive mind. You just mark all anti left agenda opinions as right wing. Some see high risk, some don't. We all are basing our opinions on anecdotes we get from biased sources. Some people believe there are honest people on tv, some dont. Fox, CNN, MSNBC, all have interests and agendas, to deny that is absurd. They are all jackasses.
 

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Here's your sign... https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...ovid-cdc-director-says/ar-BB17iype?li=BBnb7Kz
(CDC) Director Robert Redfield, MD, candidly discussed how school closures have affected children and teenagers across the country—and how previously existing issues are becoming an even bigger problem for young people. "We're seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We're seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID," Redfield said.

You and your facts. Come on. Bingo, Nebraska False Reality, and too much Sudz put truth over facts.
 

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Just so we're clear, the University of Nebraska isn't acting on behalf of the B1G conference and they can't legally prohibit the university from playing football when the NCAA, the parenting association of the conference, allows it. That being said, they can sanction them. They cannot legally sanction them into giving them all of their earnings, however. That would make the university an indentured servant to the conference and that's illegal.
Well it looks like we agree on this. It is my opinion that any sanctions approved would likely be substantial, at a level that would be prohibitive, resulting in a significant financial losses (total fines exceeding any actual revenues gained by playing) incurred by the member going rogue. If the Conference announced that any member playing an independent schedule this Fall would forfeit one-half of their member share of collective revenues for 2020, 2021, and 2022, would Nebraska or Iowa decide to schedule games? I doubt it.
 

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https://www.courthousenews.com/fox-news-faces-lawsuit-over-its-coronavirus-coverage/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/25/fox-news-hannity-coronavirus-misinformation/

"In recent weeks, three studies have focused on conservative media’s role in fostering confusion about the seriousness of the coronavirus. Taken together, they paint a picture of a media ecosystem that amplifies misinformation, entertains conspiracy theories and discourages audiences from taking concrete steps to protect themselves and others."

Please see: approx. 70% of the posts on this board.
and all of those "studies and lawsuits" are funded by and initiated by people with a political agenda.
 
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Well it looks like we agree on this. It is my opinion that any sanctions approved would likely be substantial, at a level that would be prohibitive, resulting in a significant financial losses (total fines exceeding any actual revenues gained by playing) incurred by the member going rogue. If the Conference announced that any member playing an independent schedule this Fall would forfeit one-half of their member share of collective revenues for 2020, 2021, and 2022, would Nebraska or Iowa decide to schedule games? I doubt it.
The conference would surely want its cut, but when Frost specifically notes $80-120MM in lost revenue for Nebraska if the season is canceled I'm assuming the myriad advisors who extrapolate the university's expected expenses are under the assumption that net sanctions would not surpass potential net profits.
 

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No, dumbass. If we had had a nationwide lockdown for about 4-6 weeks as soon as this was starting to get bad, back in March and April, we would be in a position to have a lot more going on right now than we currently do. It's dumbasses like you and your stupid right wing media vomit that have made this go on FOREVER and is causing far, far more harm than necessary. You want proof? Look at how the U.S. is covered literally EVERYWHERE else in the world. We're a god damned laughingstock.
Dumnznsuds , right wing media that made it go on forever ok, so countries that have said. Screw the virus, we choose to live and deal with life as it comes, WE .laughed at them....now look how they’re doing.??
And our deadly virus that the regular flu, kicks the crap out of (we’ve lost far far more children to the flu this year than this thing we’re dealing with) has been the lefts perfect political tool to try to pry Trump out of office.
If you can’t see the bigger picture dudz we can’t help you bud.
 

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Dudz takes on all comers in a verbal jousting match, he’s no dim bulb! He will own your arse if your a righty!!
Get um dudsnsons
 

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Based on open dates and schools needing non-conference games, we could put together a nine-game schedule that looks like this:
Sept. 5 Oklahoma State
Sept. 12 Oklahoma
Sept. 19 @KSU
Sept. 26 @Kansas
Oct. 3 Notre Dame
Oct. 10 @Baylor
Oct. 17
Oct. 24 Iowa State
Oct. 31 West Virginia
Nov. 7
Nov. 14 @Iowa
No, we want to win at least one game !
 

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Sheesh, this thread is getting interesting even though I can't see all the posts!

Some thoughts, nothing original I am sure.

Getting people to sign a waiver of liability does not absolve anyone from liability. Even if people sign something, the sponsoring party (school) still has a ton of things they have to do and one little oversight and you are back to being libel. Lots of places for things to go wrong in all of this. I was taught to always think and plan for the worst. Just think about everything (nearly impossible) that could go wrong with kids, travel, other teams, etc. Let me ask it this way, would YOU accept the liability/responsibility?

Second, I guess if you are part of a league that you benefit from, you are obligated to support them, right or wrong. That is what you signed up for. This would not be the first time the Huskers have been on the wrong end of the political stick. While I appreciate coach Frost's stance and agree with much of what he said, he is only a part of a much bigger picture. If the league let's two teams do their own thing now, what keeps that from happening in the future with others. You are a team, a league of teams, you go into things together and support each other for the benefit of the whole.

Off my soapbox.
 

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Show us all where they said that? Just pumping more fake news?

I don’t know where they said that, that’s why I was asking and but I think Jeans answered it, if indeed true (I don’t follow Fox nor CNN)

As far as I know, Fox News says there is no pandemic and CNN says the Pandemic is from flight MH370. They’re all bad.
 
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If we were going to create our own conf we are going to need so more heavy hitters than those schools. Going to have to at least get 2 or 3 blue bloods to join.
Considering the circumstances, and Nebraska not being blue blood-esque for a couple of decades now, aren't we setting the bar kind of high with such demands....especially when we used to play all those teams?
 

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Here's your sign... https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...ovid-cdc-director-says/ar-BB17iype?li=BBnb7Kz
(CDC) Director Robert Redfield, MD, candidly discussed how school closures have affected children and teenagers across the country—and how previously existing issues are becoming an even bigger problem for young people. "We're seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We're seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID," Redfield said.
2 things here. that story provided zero data. Also, the death rates of kids with covid is very low and the the death rate of kids from suicide is high so, of course, suicides are higher than covid deaths in kids. Is anyone arguing that death rates in children with covid is as high as their suicide rates? I would like to see actual data on the year to year change in childhood suicides between jan-july 2019 and same months in 2020.
 

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You know, there is such a thing as an objective assessment of risk, conducted by experts, not just the mental farts of rural idiots versus people who get exposed to this virus in more densely populated areas.

A novel virus spreading across the globe, i.e., a pandemic, with an overall fatality rate of 2.2% and a virus that is known to spread quite easily and also cause physical complications even upon recovery is judged to be a fairly significant risk, no matter if you're sitting around in a cornfield scratching your balls sitting on a tractor, or living in a highly urban hotspot and judging what you can and cannot do on a daily basis to avoid infection.
i dont necessarily disagree with you but there are a lot of people who do. a lot of people think their own description of risk is the only one that matters.
 

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There might be divisions, but the sides are far from equal. Schools can exist without football. Not so much the other way around.

This is false. And there is a symbiotic relationship between the two. It's best if they can stay together, but if they can't, oh well, play ball.
 

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You should find the farthest corner in your basement, build a self-contained bubble there, grab your blanky and hide this one out while men go out and take care of business so that things keep running.
dang you sound brave.....and important. Man what would we all do without you? Thank you so much for taking care of us. Please leave my groceries on the porch next time. XXXO
 

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It's not their call. The B1G has made its decision not to play, that doesn't mean that the universities within the conference can't pursue other avenues to earn revenue and there's certainly plenty of smoke regarding that happening.

Just so we're clear, the University of Nebraska isn't acting on behalf of the B1G conference and they can't legally prohibit the university from playing football when the NCAA, the parenting association of the conference, allows it. That being said, they can sanction them. They cannot legally sanction them into giving them all of their earnings, however. That would make the university an indentured servant to the conference and that's illegal.

So, say it with me, what the conference does is not what any school belonging to the conference has to do when the conference fails to maintain its obligation of providing the schools with a conference schedule. The conference lost its pull when it made the willful decision not to play without the NCAA mandating that.
when did the B10 say they aren't playing? all i've seen is everyone saying they want to play and no decision has been made. did i miss something? based on the severe lack of accuracy of all reports related to this issue the last 24 hours i fully expect all the conferences to now play. Not sure what has actually been factually reported that definitely says they are not playing
 

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No, dumbass. If we had had a nationwide lockdown for about 4-6 weeks as soon as this was starting to get bad, back in March and April, we would be in a position to have a lot more going on right now than we currently do. It's dumbasses like you and your stupid right wing media vomit that have made this go on FOREVER and is causing far, far more harm than necessary. You want proof? Look at how the U.S. is covered literally EVERYWHERE else in the world. We're a god damned laughingstock.

This is misinformed, disingenuous, and flat out false.

It has always been stated that a lockdown would drag out the spread of the virus. Lockdowns were not to stop the spread but to spare health care. All that was done based off faulty, fraudulent models. And then advocate using a faulty test that also reads positive for the common cold.

You may wish you could re-write history, but you don't get to.

There is one laughingstock here...

 

GBRforLife1

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didn’t Fox News say for a while that the pandemic was fake/overblown and not to worry? Then 160,000+ people died. Good one!

Anyway, I sincerely hope that it’s feasible for Nebraska to just rejoin the Big 12 this year, regardless of legality, contracts, etc

 

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You do realize the University of Nebraska voted to play yesterday on the advisement of its medical team and the university's chief of staff has nearly two decades of experience in the medical field, correct?

the big ten’s task force for emerging diseases to advise the conference regarding COVID is headed by a UNMC representative who was appointed by the university.

this group - again headed by the most experienced/qualified physician from UNMC - presented the risks and the vote was allegedly 12-2 to delay/cancel

The medical advisory team making recommendations to the conference is headed by someone appointed by the Univ of Nebraska

The group is chaired by Dr. Chris Kratochvil, who is the Associate Vice Chancellor for Clinical Research and Professor of Psychiatry and Pediatrics at the University of Nebraska Medical Center (UNMC), as well as the Executive Director of the Global Center for Health Security at UNMC and Nebraska Medicine. The UNMC, which played a key role in the treatment of the Ebola virus in 2014, is home to the National Quarantine Center, the nation’s only federal quarantine unit, and is also the location of the National Biocontainment Training Center.
 

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dang you sound brave.....and important. Man what would we all do without you? Thank you so much for taking care of us. Please leave my groceries on the porch next time. XXXO

last year at this time you weren’t scared, wearing a mask when there were other ***** viruses going about. What happened?
 
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when did the B10 say they aren't playing? all i've seen is everyone saying they want to play and no decision has been made. did i miss something? based on the severe lack of accuracy of all reports related to this issue the last 24 hours i fully expect all the conferences to now play. Not sure what has actually been factually reported that definitely says they are not playing
There were numerous initial reports of a cancelation, including by this site, 247, and BTN, but the conference hasn't issued an official statement.

Whatever the plan was, it's likely now a fluid situation due to the extreme pushback from a keystone member of the conference, aOSU, and Frost's press conference and the Nebraska BOR making a public statement in favor of pursuing other options probably didn't hurt either.

 
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the big ten’s task force for emerging diseases to advise the conference regarding COVID is headed by a UNMC representative who was appointed by the university.

this group - again headed by the most experienced/qualified physician from UNMC - presented the risks and the vote was allegedly 12-2.

The medical advisory team making recommendations to the conference is headed by someone appointed by the Univ of Nebraska

The group is chaired by Dr. Chris Kratochvil, who is the Associate Vice Chancellor for Clinical Research and Professor of Psychiatry and Pediatrics at the University of Nebraska Medical Center (UNMC), as well as the Executive Director of the Global Center for Health Security at UNMC and Nebraska Medicine. The UNMC, which played a key role in the treatment of the Ebola virus in 2014, is home to the National Quarantine Center, the nation’s only federal quarantine unit, and is also the location of the National Biocontainment Training Center.
Yet, the University of Nebraska's medical staff voted in favor of playing.