Nebraska going rogue

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wonder if they could strike up a 1 year temp conf, and put all the games on ppv that the conference tv networks get a SMALL cut of.

get 18 teams, and call it the Covid-18.
 

Mr.Scary13

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didn’t Fox News say for a while that the pandemic was fake/overblown and not to worry? Then 160,000+ people died. Good one!

Anyway, I sincerely hope that it’s feasible for Nebraska to just rejoin the Big 12 this year, regardless of legality, contracts, etc

Didn't CNN and MSNBC say the same thing?
 

Husker4real_rivals373787

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Frost is a leader. Trevor Lawrence is a leader. Jim Hardpaw is a leader. Since we have little say in what happens, let's see how much people like them can lead.

As much as I hate agreeing with Harbaugh, I have to appreciate what he said. Different words than Frost, but the same message.
 

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didn’t Fox News say for a while that the pandemic was fake/overblown and not to worry? Then 160,000+ people died. Good one!

Anyway, I sincerely hope that it’s feasible for Nebraska to just rejoin the Big 12 this year, regardless of legality, contracts, etc
Show us all where they said that? Just pumping more fake news?
 

HuskersNC

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Just got off the CDC website (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html) went to the Cases and Deaths tab and these are the numbers.

New Cases 5,023,649
Deaths 161,842
% of deaths 3.2%

Here are the numbers for the Flu: 2019 1.7 % death rate
Normal Death rate 2.2%
What happened to the .5% that shrunk? Could it possibly be rolled into the Covid death rate??? Link to the website https://www.healthline.com/health/influenza/facts-and-statistics#1

I need help with this math please. Normal death rate for the flu is 2.2% (young people are susceptible to the flu, ask all the coaches)
Death rate for Covid cases 3.2% (with numbers that have been falsified) Covid does not effect young people. More teens are dying from suicide over this drama than have died from the virus, per CDC.

I need convinced that is a deadly virus. It is very dangerous to the elderly and those with existing health problems. The numbers are not adding up.
Death rate? 2.2% is clearly labeled as the rate of outpatient visits, as in go to the doctor, get checked out and leave. The death rate for the flu is far below 1%, and in fact is far more overblown than covid deaths: https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...u-deaths-is-like-comparing-apples-to-oranges/
 

DudznSudz

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Another who SEE”s how everything LEFTY destroys , absolutely.....it’s the no solution DNC/liberals that hate success, and because they NEVER LIKE WINNING just bitching.
In this case they would call shutting down everything SUCCESS , as we normal people see things very differently

Lol, what in the barreling **** did you just **** out of your brain here?
 

Husker4real_rivals373787

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If you found 12 or 13 schools that were willing to play, it could be done.

The unknown fallout is the fly in the ointment. By that I mean could the schools that don’t play - if they are a majority - introduce sanctions or other negative consequences.
 

DudznSudz

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Medical "experts" shouldn't have the final say. If it were up to them, you would have been locked inside your homes since this started and any form of personal contact would be illegal. These medical experts often don't understand the economic impact decisions like cancelling sports seasons has or how broad an effect a decision like that has on different groups of people.

No, dumbass. If we had had a nationwide lockdown for about 4-6 weeks as soon as this was starting to get bad, back in March and April, we would be in a position to have a lot more going on right now than we currently do. It's dumbasses like you and your stupid right wing media vomit that have made this go on FOREVER and is causing far, far more harm than necessary. You want proof? Look at how the U.S. is covered literally EVERYWHERE else in the world. We're a god damned laughingstock.
 

DudznSudz

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Where did I say DNC??? They just run the DNC and the Media. It is not a Dem or Rep issue, it is left wing liberalism vs everyday values. Liberalism has destroyed EVERYTHING it comes into contact with. We are now being dictated to by the slime that has ruined education and science. Individual rights no longer apply. We have a constitution that is NOT being followed or adhered to. Our rights are being taken away one at a time and we as a society are allowing it. Time for people to grow a back bone and stand up to this crap.

You do an impressive job at repeating the ******** spewed out by the right wing media machine. Good job!
 

jimmyjoseph

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Just got off the CDC website (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html) went to the Cases and Deaths tab and these are the numbers.

New Cases 5,023,649
Deaths 161,842
% of deaths 3.2%

Here are the numbers for the Flu: 2019 1.7 % death rate
Normal Death rate 2.2%
What happened to the .5% that shrunk? Could it possibly be rolled into the Covid death rate??? Link to the website https://www.healthline.com/health/influenza/facts-and-statistics#1

I need help with this math please. Normal death rate for the flu is 2.2% (young people are susceptible to the flu, ask all the coaches)
Death rate for Covid cases 3.2% (with numbers that have been falsified) Covid does not effect young people. More teens are dying from suicide over this drama than have died from the virus, per CDC.

I need convinced that is a deadly virus. It is very dangerous to the elderly and those with existing health problems. The numbers are not adding up.
LOL i think your suicide numbers are falsified too. Wait ....you didn't provide any. whether it is dangerous or not totally depends on one's opinion of dangerous. thats why there are so many differing opinions. If your mom died you probably think its pretty dangerous. if you live in the middle of nowhere and dont know anyone you probably dont think its dangerous.
 

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didn’t Fox News say for a while that the pandemic was fake/overblown and not to worry? Then 160,000+ people died. Good one!

Anyway, I sincerely hope that it’s feasible for Nebraska to just rejoin the Big 12 this year, regardless of legality, contracts, etc

No that was CNN and the NYTimes.
 

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No, dumbass. If we had had a nationwide lockdown for about 4-6 weeks as soon as this was starting to get bad, back in March and April, we would be in a position to have a lot more going on right now than we currently do. It's dumbasses like you and your stupid right wing media vomit that have made this go on FOREVER and is causing far, far more harm than necessary. You want proof? Look at how the U.S. is covered literally EVERYWHERE else in the world. We're a god damned laughingstock.

 

DudznSudz

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LOL i think your suicide numbers are falsified too. Wait ....you didn't provide any. whether it is dangerous or not totally depends on one's opinion of dangerous. thats why there are so many differing opinions. If your mom died you probably think its pretty dangerous. if you live in the middle of nowhere and dont know anyone you probably dont think its dangerous.

You know, there is such a thing as an objective assessment of risk, conducted by experts, not just the mental farts of rural idiots versus people who get exposed to this virus in more densely populated areas.

A novel virus spreading across the globe, i.e., a pandemic, with an overall fatality rate of 2.2% and a virus that is known to spread quite easily and also cause physical complications even upon recovery is judged to be a fairly significant risk, no matter if you're sitting around in a cornfield scratching your balls sitting on a tractor, or living in a highly urban hotspot and judging what you can and cannot do on a daily basis to avoid infection.
 

c3o

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You know, there is such a thing as an objective assessment of risk, conducted by experts, not just the mental farts of rural idiots versus people who get exposed to this virus in more densely populated areas.

A novel virus spreading across the globe, i.e., a pandemic, with an overall fatality rate of 2.2% and a virus that is known to spread quite easily and also cause physical complications even upon recovery is judged to be a fairly significant risk, no matter if you're sitting around in a cornfield scratching your balls sitting on a tractor, or living in a highly urban hotspot and judging what you can and cannot do on a daily basis to avoid infection.

You should find the farthest corner in your basement, build a self-contained bubble there, grab your blanky and hide this one out while men go out and take care of business so that things keep running.
 

DudznSudz

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Show us all where they said that? Just pumping more fake news?


https://www.courthousenews.com/fox-news-faces-lawsuit-over-its-coronavirus-coverage/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/25/fox-news-hannity-coronavirus-misinformation/

"In recent weeks, three studies have focused on conservative media’s role in fostering confusion about the seriousness of the coronavirus. Taken together, they paint a picture of a media ecosystem that amplifies misinformation, entertains conspiracy theories and discourages audiences from taking concrete steps to protect themselves and others."

Please see: approx. 70% of the posts on this board.
 

DudznSudz

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You should find the farthest corner in your basement, build a self-contained bubble there, grab your blanky and hide this one out while men go out and take care of business so that things keep running.


...lolwut
 

timnsun

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I saw that. It's a dumb idea and it's disappointing that Frost would say things like that, given what all is going on.
On fire today, aren’t ya? Maybe just accept that people don’t all think alike. I honestly don’t think anything you are saying right now is changing minds.

But if you want to keep on charging full steam ahead on this, we’ll see this thread locked in no time.
 

DudznSudz

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Ya'll don't have to agree with me. But you also don't get to spew out a bunch of hate-mongering right-wing garbage without being challenged on it, either. I mean, fair's fair. Or are we being snowflakes now?
 

steinek11

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How balsy would it be if we came up with our own 'exhibition schedule' of 8 games? That would be so fun.
 

Ewooc

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Dude, it’s the old Big 8
Yes, but outside of OU, nobody cares about the other teams. If we are going this hypothetical path and creating this new/old conf we have to have teams who can make national waves and bring attention to the conference. Otherwise we will be nothing more than the AAC 2.0
 

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I'm certain that the proceeds from any games would be heavily sanctioned by the conference, but the university would come out well in the black.

As for Nebraska or any other B1G school going independent, it would likely lead to a domino effect with other schools following the first school to make the move. I doubt every school would consider the decision, namely Illinois, Northwestern, Rutgers, and Maryland, but the other conference schools wouldn't be a surprise especially when a plan is presented to the masses.

That being said, I think you're misinterpreting that I'm saying this is happening, which I'm not, with me saying it's possible, which I am. You're saying it's impossible.

“We want to play a Big Ten schedule, I hope that’s what happens. Our University is committed to playing no matter what that looks like and how that looks. We want to play no matter where it is and who it is, so we’ll see how all those chips fall and certainly hope it’s in the Big Ten and if it isn’t, then we’re prepared to look for other options.” - Scott Frost, 1:35ish PM CT, 08/10/2020
I'm saying its prohibitively impossible. Proceeds from the games? I believe the sanctions for such a move would be much more substantial, including major fines (much greater than any actual revenue generated by playing) and prohibition against competing for league titles for a number of years, among other measures The other member schools are going to demand an enormous cost for disregarding a conference decision. I suspect the B10 Commissioner will have more to say about this later, perhaps at tomorrow's press conference, but in any event when or if a member school moves toward independent scheduling.

Regarding the Frost quote, good for him. I would bet that most if not all coaches have a strong desire to play football and other Fall sports. Unfortunately, they do not have the final say.

Finally, I guess we disagree. I don't think you will see a domino effect if a B10 school elects to go rogue.
 

ridge22

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As much as I hate agreeing with Harbaugh, I have to appreciate what he said. Different words than Frost, but the same message.

Bro, you just brought a concept to a message board that is foreign. You agreed with someone you don't really like. You looked at what was said, and not who said it. My head just exploded!!!

 
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I'm saying its prohibitively impossible. Proceeds from the games? I believe the sanctions for such a move would be much more substantial, including major fines (much greater than any actual revenue generated by playing) and prohibition against competing for league titles for a number of years, among other measures The other member schools are going to demand an enormous cost for disregarding a conference decision. I suspect the B10 Commissioner will have more to say about this later, perhaps at tomorrow's press conference, but in any event when or if a member school moves toward independent scheduling.

Regarding the Frost quote, good for him. I would bet that most if not all coaches have a strong desire to play football and other Fall sports. Unfortunately, they do not have the final say.

Finally, I guess we disagree. I don't think you will see a domino effect if a B10 school elects to go rogue.
I'm not entirely convinced you're paying attention to anything the University of Nebraska is saying or doing right now.
 

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I saw that. It's a dumb idea and it's disappointing that Frost would say things like that, given what all is going on.

usually I see eye to eye with you. This is one time you and I are far apart. I’m proud of Scott Frost for standing up and speaking out. I completely agree with Frost on this and I think he is dead on. Teams should be the ones that decide if they play or don’t play. Not some committee.

Each team should be allowed to opt out or opt for a season. Teams that don’t want to take the risk should be allowed to sit it out without any back lash and teams that Choose to play, should be allowed to play.
 
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timnsun

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Ya'll don't have to agree with me. But you also don't get to spew out a bunch of hate-mongering right-wing garbage without being challenged on it, either. I mean, fair's fair. Or are we being snowflakes now?
I missed the hate-mongering garbage... Those who are saying this is political are hate-mongerers? I'm not saying I agree with those who are saying it is political, I'm just tired of people who are conservative being labeled hate-mongerers. I get it. I don't agree with you since I'm conservative. But that doesn't make me a hate-mongerer any more than you are a socialist. You aren't a socialist, are you?
 

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No, dumbass. If we had had a nationwide lockdown for about 4-6 weeks as soon as this was starting to get bad, back in March and April, we would be in a position to have a lot more going on right now than we currently do. It's dumbasses like you and your stupid right wing media vomit that have made this go on FOREVER and is causing far, far more harm than necessary. You want proof? Look at how the U.S. is covered literally EVERYWHERE else in the world. We're a god damned laughingstock.
rioters/protesters didn't help
 
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I'm not sure you understand what the Big Ten conference is saying right now.
It's not their call. The B1G has made its decision not to play, that doesn't mean that the universities within the conference can't pursue other avenues to earn revenue and there's certainly plenty of smoke regarding that happening.

Just so we're clear, the University of Nebraska isn't acting on behalf of the B1G conference and they can't legally prohibit the university from playing football when the NCAA, the parenting association of the conference, allows it. That being said, they can sanction them. They cannot legally sanction them into giving them all of their earnings, however. That would make the university an indentured servant to the conference and that's illegal.

So, say it with me, what the conference does is not what any school belonging to the conference has to do when the conference fails to maintain its obligation of providing the schools with a conference schedule. The conference lost its pull when it made the willful decision not to play without the NCAA mandating that.
 

steinek11

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Ya'll don't have to agree with me. But you also don't get to spew out a bunch of hate-mongering right-wing garbage without being challenged on it, either. I mean, fair's fair. Or are we being snowflakes now?
Look at you. Got your big girl panties all wadded up!
 

jflores

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It's not their call. The B1G has made its decision not to play, that doesn't mean that the universities within the conference can't pursue other avenues to earn revenue and there's certainly plenty of smoke regarding that happening.

Just so we're clear, the University of Nebraska isn't acting on behalf of the B1G conference and they can't legally prohibit the university from playing football when the NCAA, the parenting association of the conference, allows it. That being said, they can sanction them. They cannot legally sanction them into giving them all of their earnings, however. That would make the university an indentured servant to the conference and that's illegal.

So, say it with me, what the conference does is not what any school belonging to the conference has to do when the conference fails to maintain its obligation of providing the schools with a conference schedule. The conference lost its pull when it made the willful decision not to play without the NCAA mandating that.

I think it depends on what they actually vote to do. Alot of the quotes say "voted to postpone". Most of us don't believe there will be spring football..but in legal terms, if the B1G votes to postpone to spring, and NU wanders off to play in the fall and is unable to fulfill its obligations in the spring...its us who's in breach of contract.

The B1G may well be using that to try and keep the cats herded.
 

artguy68

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Just got off the CDC website (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html) went to the Cases and Deaths tab and these are the numbers.

New Cases 5,023,649
Deaths 161,842
% of deaths 3.2%

Here are the numbers for the Flu: 2019 1.7 % death rate
Normal Death rate 2.2%
What happened to the .5% that shrunk? Could it possibly be rolled into the Covid death rate??? Link to the website https://www.healthline.com/health/influenza/facts-and-statistics#1

I need help with this math please. Normal death rate for the flu is 2.2% (young people are susceptible to the flu, ask all the coaches)
Death rate for Covid cases 3.2% (with numbers that have been falsified) Covid does not effect young people. More teens are dying from suicide over this drama than have died from the virus, per CDC.

I need convinced that is a deadly virus. It is very dangerous to the elderly and those with existing health problems. The numbers are not adding up.

Quick, go tell the officials at the Big 10 that they are all wrong and you can prove it! Why are you posting on this board when you have all the answers that the world needs to hear!?
 

oldjar07

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No, dumbass. If we had had a nationwide lockdown for about 4-6 weeks as soon as this was starting to get bad, back in March and April, we would be in a position to have a lot more going on right now than we currently do. It's dumbasses like you and your stupid right wing media vomit that have made this go on FOREVER and is causing far, far more harm than necessary. You want proof? Look at how the U.S. is covered literally EVERYWHERE else in the world. We're a god damned laughingstock.
Lol I'm far from right wing. I even agreed with you on an economic discussion here awhile back. I disagree that a nationwide shutdown back in March or April would leave us any better off now. I do believe in personal freedom though and don't think shutting down the Big 10 season is going to do anything to make the players safer when they are just as likely to get the virus in their personal lives or from attending school, so shutting down the season in my mind does more harm than good.
 
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I think it depends on what they actually vote to do. Alot of the quotes say "voted to postpone". Most of us don't believe there will be spring football..but in legal terms, if the B1G votes to postpone to spring, and NU wanders off to play in the fall and is unable to fulfill its obligations in the spring...its us who's in breach of contract.

The B1G may well be using that to try and keep the cats herded.
I haven't seen the official release, but there's certainly significance given to choice of phasing.

I'm not sure the NCAA would allow 2-3 Power 5 conferences to play in the fall and 2-3 to play in the spring given the impact on the 2021 season, though.
 

jflores

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I haven't seen the official release, but there's certainly significance given to choice of phasing.

I'm not sure the NCAA would allow 2-3 Power 5 conferences to play in the fall and 1-2 to play in the spring given the impact on the 2021 season, though.

I mean, we'll just have to see. You had Sankey say this:

During an interview on ESPN Radio on Saturday, SEC commissioner Greg Sankey was asked about a potential domino effect among the FBS conferences. He referred to the basketball tournament shutdowns in March, when all leagues made independent decisions but reached the same conclusion. "We want to be connected, but the best example is back in March… Different conferences made independent decisions but all arrived at the same destination."


Ok so Moos is making calls, but the reality is, it'll be another week, maybe two before we figure out who really intends to dance. Or it could be all over, even the rogueness, in 72 hours as the conferences domino and no partner remains.

Edit: Good point on the split season.