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Pitt4Life34

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So do a few Big12 teams that can’t even win 20 games and lose 13-15 games actually get into this year’s tourney. What has happened to this tourney? Outside of Big12 homers like Eers does anyone see the Big12 as so much better than the other 3 big boy conferences that average teams like Baylor, Texas and Oklahoma deserve a NCAA bid. I watch a ton of college hoops. Those teams aren’t NCAAs quality IMO.

Even TCU is a joke really. They played 16-20 real games and lost 11 or 12 games. How good are they really? That team finished 5th in the Big12 and had a losing conference record this year. They went 9-10 in the Big12 as the 5th best team. So is this Conference the meat grinder that the homers claim. Or is it overrated. If there aren’t 4 or 5 Sweet16 teams it’s massively overrated. If there are 4 or 5 teams in Sweet16 then an argument can definately be made that the Conference is a meat grinder and those teams deserved a bid.
 
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palencia

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GREGJACOBS said:
So do a few Big12 teams that can’t even win 20 games and lose 13-15 games actually get into this year’s tourney. What has happened to this tourney? Outside of Big12 homers like Eers does anyone see the Big12 as so much better than the other 3 big boy conferences that average teams like Baylor, Texas and Oklahoma deserve a NCAA bid. I watch a ton of college hoops. Those teams aren’t NCAAs quality IMO.
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Better watch more. at least 8 getting into tourney.
 
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GREGJACOBS said:
So do a few Big12 teams that can’t even win 20 games and lose 13-15 games actually get into this year’s tourney. What has happened to this tourney? Outside of Big12 homers like Eers does anyone see the Big12 as so much better than the other 3 big boy conferences that average teams like Baylor, Texas and Oklahoma deserve a NCAA bid. I watch a ton of college hoops. Those teams aren’t NCAAs quality IMO.
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I really don't see OU as a tourney team. But Baylor and Texas are both better than the bubble teams from the ACC. If Pitt was in the B12, each team would have two more wins. 8-10 in the B12 is not as bad as 9-9 in the ACC. I would rather see the mid majors picking up more slots than the Bigs getting 7 or 8 teams in.
 
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Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals

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Big 12 collectively has a better track record than other conference. The numbers show that. Does that mean the Final Four will be only Big 12 teams? This year, no team and no conference is a sure thing in March Madness. It will be the zaniest ever. And that will make it really fun to watch.
For now I just want my alma mater to beat Texas Tech and the Kansas-Kansas State winner. Even with Konate not doing much, and a sluggish first half, although than Carter's fantastic long-distance 3 at the buzz, WVU rattled Baylor with Press Virginia enough to coast to the finish line. No double-digit collapse tonight. A W always makes me happy. On to the Red Raiders and another sleepytime final buzzer!
 
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Pitt4Life34

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still5-0vstarheels said:
I really don't see OU as a tourney team. But Baylor and Texas are both better than the bubble teams from the ACC. If Pitt was in the B12, each team would have two more wins. 8-10 in the B12 is not as bad as 9-9 in the ACC. I would rather see the mid majors picking up more slots than the Bigs getting 7 or 8 teams in.
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How do you know they are better 5-0. I’m not saying they aren’t better I’m saying how the heck does anyone know? I mean if Baylor played Cuse or FSU anything could happen. It use to be win 20-22 games or don’t expect to get in. The thing with Pitt is a tough thing to analyze. While Pitt was being blown out almost every game in ACC Pitt played WVU tough down to the last few minutes. While Pitt got boat raced in ACC play Pitt literally could have beaten Oklahoma St and lost late. With that said your point more is accurate than not. The question is would Baylor be a top 9 team in the ACC. That I don’t see at all. Same with Texas. I don’t see them as a top half ACC team. But who knows.
 
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Pitt4Life34

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palencia said:
Better watch more. at least 8 getting into tourney.
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Of course you misrepresented my post. That was my point. So you think 8 or 9 Big12 teams are getting bids. That means Committee thinks Big12 is a meat grinder. So 5 Sweet16 teams would prove that. The cool thing is we’ll know in 9 days how good this Conference is. Check back then.
 
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GREGJACOBS said:
How do you know they are better 5-0. I’m not saying they aren’t better I’m saying how the heck does anyone know? I mean if Baylor played Cuse or FSU anything could happen. It use to be win 20-22 games or don’t expect to get in. The thing with Pitt is a tough thing to analyze. While Pitt was being blown out almost every game in ACC Pitt played WVU tough down to the last few minutes. While Pitt got boat raced in ACC play Pitt literally could have beaten Oklahoma St and lost late. With that said your point more is accurate than not. The question is would Baylor be a top 9 team in the ACC. That I don’t see at all. Same with Texas. I don’t see them as a top half ACC team. But who knows.
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All I know is that NO Big 12 team had more than 3 losses in non-conference games. Four ACC teams had more OOC losses than that. Even if you go by percentages, Big 12 is 100% in that category. I wouldn't bet on any conference or any team making the Final Four in this zaniest March Madness, though.
 
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Pitt4Life34

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Cuyahoga Falls Eers said:
All I know is that NO Big 12 team had more than 3 losses in non-conference games. Four ACC teams had more OOC losses than that. Even if you go by percentages, Big 12 is 100% in that category. I wouldn't bet on any conference or any team making the Final Four in this zaniest March Madness, though.
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Not talking about the Final Four. I’m talking Sweet16. If there aren’t 5 Sweet16 teams from the Big12 it will be yet another overrated year for Conference strength. There doesn’t have to be any arguments. The answer is on its way Eers. 5 Sweet16 teams proves without question the Big12 is a meat grinder. 4 teams proves to be the best or second best Conference. Anything less proves that it’s not the meat grinder some say. We’ll know everything in 10 days. Results matter.
 
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Locks (41)
Arizona, Arkansas, Auburn, Charleston, Cincinnati, Clemson, Creighton, Duke, Florida, Gonzaga, Houston, Iona, Kansas, Kentucky, Lipscomb, LIU-Brooklyn, Loyola-Chicago, Miami, Michigan, Michigan State, Murray State, North Carolina, NC State, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Purdue, Radford, Seton Hall, South Dakota State, Tennessee, Texas A&M, TCU, Texas Tech, UNC-Greensboro, Villanova, Virginia, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Wichita State, Wright State, Xavier

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15 (68 total spots — 41 locks — 12 remaining single-bid conference automatic qualifiers = 15)

Middle Tenn. Getting upset burst a lot of bubbles...
 
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There are too many teams in the tournament. Has a team seeded lower than 10 ever won an NCAA championship? They should probably cut the thing in half, although I know that wouldn't go over too well with a lot of people.
 
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GREGJACOBS said:
Of course you misrepresented my post. That was my point. So you think 8 or 9 Big12 teams are getting bids. That means Committee thinks Big12 is a meat grinder. So 5 Sweet16 teams would prove that. The cool thing is we’ll know in 9 days how good this Conference is. Check back then.
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sorry about that
 
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And in regard to Greg's original post, let me share something that has always bugged me about the committee.

They have 10-15 different analytics to go over but it seems like they always forget the most basic one -- actually winning games.

OSU and Texas are 19-14 a meager .576 winning percentage.
Baylor is 18-14....a .563 winning percentage.

Alabama, the new favorite 'in' team is in the same boat.....if they lose today they will be 19-15. Four games over .500 shouldn't get you in the tournament.

I get not all SOS are the same, but at what point does the committee actually say, they simply didn't win enough games.
 
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Big 12

Locked in: Kansas, Texas Tech, West Virginia, Oklahoma.
Bubble: Kansas State, TCU, Baylor, Texas, Oklahoma State.

How in the world is OU a lock? KSU, TCU should be locks.
 
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WVUALLEN said:
Big 12

Locked in: Kansas, Texas Tech, West Virginia, Oklahoma.
Bubble: Kansas State, TCU, Baylor, Texas, Oklahoma State.

How in the world is OU a lock? KSU, TCU should be locks.
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Where did you get this from?
Everyplace I have visited has KSU and TCU as locks.
 
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Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals

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GREGJACOBS said:
Not talking about the Final Four. I’m talking Sweet16. If there aren’t 5 Sweet16 teams from the Big12 it will be yet another overrated year for Conference strength. There doesn’t have to be any arguments. The answer is on its way Eers. 5 Sweet16 teams proves without question the Big12 is a meat grinder. 4 teams proves to be the

Using your standard, New Horizon and Big East are better conferences than any conference except the ACC since, from 1985 on, they have a better winning percentage than the Big East, Big 10, Pac-12, SEC. Do you agree with that assessment, using your standard?
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Pitt4Life34

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Give it up Eers. There are 3 Top Conferences this year plus the overrated Big East. Why is that so hard for you to understand and except. Next year may be completely different.
 
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Pitt4Life34

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WVUFanForever said:
And in regard to Greg's original post, let me share something that has always bugged me about the committee.

They have 10-15 different analytics to go over but it seems like they always forget the most basic one -- actually winning games.

OSU and Texas are 19-14 a meager .576 winning percentage.
Baylor is 18-14....a .563 winning percentage.

Alabama, the new favorite 'in' team is in the same boat.....if they lose today they will be 19-15. Four games over .500 shouldn't get you in the tournament.

I get not all SOS are the same, but at what point does the committee actually say, they simply didn't win enough games.
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Well put. Sadly if Texas and Baylor played in the Big East or PAC12 they’d be a Top 4 or 5 in both leagues and locks for NCAAs.
 
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GREGJACOBS said:
Don’t dont have enough talent to engage with me. Move along
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Don't don't lol
 
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