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LineSkiCat14

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COVID doesn't give you knee injuries.

And from everything I read, the market for Kemba was not good. It's a terrible contract given his inability to stay healthy. Nearly $74 million for a guy you can never count on to be able to play.

I disagree. Over-using your knee in any scenario can give you knee injuries.. covid gave out PLENTY of injuries, let's be real. Now.. maybe Kemba had underlying knee wear.. but the 4 years prior, he played like 78 game seasons.. the dude has been healthy otherwise.

Kembas contract is not great... I agree. But there should be a lot of basketball left in him, and he could very well rejuvenate his career as he's only 31.

But the problem was Boston is looking to win now, and Kemba didn't really fit. But I think this trade does nothing for them, other than losing a near lottery pick. I dont think the FA money will matter at the end of the day.

This was a desperation move. A sell-off in hopes they can sign a FA... but who is the target, you think? Not a great FA class..
 

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Signed: a Rockets fan dealing with John Walls contract.. who is owed MORE per year then Kemba, with more years in the NBA, who can't shoot, and has worse injuries, on a worse team..

And we're STILL trying to make him work for Houston lol.

Love John Wall as a Kentucky fan.. but as a Houston fan? Woof.
 
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I can't remember the last time I had this much fun watching a player that didn't go to Kentucky. Terance Mann is having himself a career night. Best part, it might end the season for a former UL player. Lots of game left though.
 
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I disagree. Over-using your knee in any scenario can give you knee injuries.. covid gave out PLENTY of injuries, let's be real. Now.. maybe Kemba had underlying knee wear.. but the 4 years prior, he played like 78 game seasons.. the dude has been healthy otherwise.

Kembas contract is not great... I agree. But there should be a lot of basketball left in him, and he could very well rejuvenate his career as he's only 31.

But the problem was Boston is looking to win now, and Kemba didn't really fit. But I think this trade does nothing for them, other than losing a near lottery pick. I dont think the FA money will matter at the end of the day.

This was a desperation move. A sell-off in hopes they can sign a FA... but who is the target, you think? Not a great FA class..
He’s had injury problems ever since getting to Boston, which predates COVID. His knee problems started in January 2020 and has been a chronic problem ever since

And Boston has Marcus Smart coming up for a new contract, Robert Williams is going to need to be resigned soon, Evan Fournier is a FA they want to sign. Having that extra FA money is a big deal.
 
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umm.. what?

Kemba, the 16th pick and a future 2nd round... for Al Horford (at the end of his career), Moses Brown (who?), and a future 2nd round?

This can't be a real trade can it?
I wouldn’t have thought so, Kemba’s stock must have plummeted in Boston.
 
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I wouldn’t have thought so, Kemba’s stock must have plummeted in Boston.
He’s got a lot of factors working against him
  • He’s a small guard, they rarely age well. A guy like Chris Paul is far more frequently the exception than the norm
  • Aged 31, I believe. Not particularly old I agree, but like I said, small guards don’t generally age well.
  • His ability to create his own shot relies a lot on his ability to change direction quickly (like step backs and cross overs)
  • But he has a bad knee that’s been plaguing him for 1.5 years that needed surgery yet is still giving him trouble. That can really negate the effectiveness of a step back and other change of direction moves, and you know goes back to the whole small guards don’t generally age well thing
  • He has one of the most expensive contracts in the league
  • And his productivity has declined a good bit, even this year with the departure of Hayward, and he didn’t showed out particularly well in the playoffs.
 
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Shaudylo

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Terrence Mann has been an X factor for them all playoffs . He wasn’t even in the rotation to start the playoffs .

Lue has made some pretty good coaching adjustments
 

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He’s got a lot of factors working against him
  • He’s a small guard, they rarely age well. A guy like Chris Paul is far more frequently the exception than the norm
  • Aged 31, I believe. Not particularly old I agree, but like I said, small guards don’t generally age well.
  • His ability to create his own shot relies a lot on his ability to change direction quickly (like step backs and cross overs)
  • But he has a bad knee that’s been plaguing him for 1.5 years that needed surgery yet is still giving him trouble. That can really negate the effectiveness of a step back and other change of direction moves, and you know goes back to the whole small guards don’t generally age well thing
  • He has one of the most expensive contracts in the league
  • And his productivity has declined a good bit, even this year with the departure of Hayward, and he didn’t showed out particularly well in the playoffs.

I just don't know if these are as bad as we think. His contract is not good, but its not unworkable. It's two years for 72million ish, and then he'll get a much smaller contract. And while this injury "may" derail his career, it's not a guarantee. He was one of the more resilient players his entire NBA career, 79 game seasons for like 4 straight years. I think what happened to I. Thomas is probably still too recent in our memory, especially Boston fans.

If Boston is able to use this FA money they saved, then it's a win for them. But we'll have to see on that. I dont think Kemba's career as a starting guard is over yet.
 

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And those guys they want to sign and resign.. idk. I like Smart as a reserve player, a 6th or 7th type guy.. but Fournier? Williams? I know the bench is important.. but Boston needs to swing bigger.. if all they do is bolster their bench, by giving away Kemba Walker and a near lottery pick.. thats a loss in my eyes.
 
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I just don't know if these are as bad as we think. His contract is not good, but its not unworkable. It's two years for 72million ish, and then he'll get a much smaller contract. And while this injury "may" derail his career, it's not a guarantee. He was one of the more resilient players his entire NBA career, 79 game seasons for like 4 straight years. I think what happened to I. Thomas is probably still too recent in our memory, especially Boston fans.

If Boston is able to use this FA money they saved, then it's a win for them. But we'll have to see on that. I dont think Kemba's career as a starting guard is over yet.
There’s a difference between being a starting guard and a starting guard would 36 million though. 36 million is franchise player money and he’s not remotely that anymore
 
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And those guys they want to sign and resign.. idk. I like Smart as a reserve player, a 6th or 7th type guy.. but Fournier? Williams? I know the bench is important.. but Boston needs to swing bigger.. if all they do is bolster their bench, by giving away Kemba Walker and a near lottery pick.. thats a loss in my eyes.
Moses Brown might be an insurance policy if they lose Robert Williams. Not really sure what the plan is with the five spot going forward after adding Horford and Brown.
 

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He’s got a lot of factors working against him
  • He’s a small guard, they rarely age well. A guy like Chris Paul is far more frequently the exception than the norm
  • Aged 31, I believe. Not particularly old I agree, but like I said, small guards don’t generally age well.
  • His ability to create his own shot relies a lot on his ability to change direction quickly (like step backs and cross overs)
  • But he has a bad knee that’s been plaguing him for 1.5 years that needed surgery yet is still giving him trouble. That can really negate the effectiveness of a step back and other change of direction moves, and you know goes back to the whole small guards don’t generally age well thing
  • He has one of the most expensive contracts in the league
  • And his productivity has declined a good bit, even this year with the departure of Hayward, and he didn’t showed out particularly well in the playoffs.
he’s a 5-9 non pg who shoots under 42% for his career. his strength was his strength in college. clear out and break a guy down for a 2. basically his only improvement in the league has been gaining a respectable % from 3.

it’s addition by subtraction imo. you’re better off getting a couple steady things a night for less money. i think he had one good game against miami last year. other than that he’s been infrequent in the playoffs. you don’t need that from your star player.
 

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Then Durant literally just loses the ball and shooting foul lol. Also I don't think the T against the Nets was warranted so the bucks got one free FT as well