No they were youth flag football. It wasn’t specified what level of programs in his question. I guess in terms of college program I’ve done that on EA sorts PlayStation game.
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Nice! I took Kansas to 3 straight big 12 titles and one national championship, I was Mark Mangino lol
when i tell you my montana state bobcats were a juggernaut, know i stood on business.
not only is that on god (as well as my mama), that's also no cap
Yeah, in retrospect, given the built in recruiting advantage, maybe turning UTEP in a dynasty isn't as impressive as Montana State.
Rhule has never coached at a Blue Blood program.
We expect result while you do a so called build.
i don't trust his process yet but he deserves the chance.
Not getting to a bowl game is utter failure at this school his 1st year.
No we wouldn't be debating that. Everyone sees just how terrible our passing game is they would have given grace for taking the sensible approach.
Are we good enough to just pound the rock? Our quarterbacks are so atrocious our opponents load the box to stop the run, and we rank first in the conference in rushing. So the answer is yes although we do have to pass it sometimes to keep them somewhat on their toes. But we didn't have to pass when we got to the 5. Once we got to the 5 that wasn't the argument anymore. The argument is does a fg after 3 runs then kickoff with 2:40 left win the game? More than likely.
And I don't think they would have. Defense did a great job of stifling their offense. I have a feeling White and the Blackshirts would have sealed the deal
And if they hadn't, we bet our chips on the strong area of our team, and pushed all in with the best hand to only get rivered. Oh well
they ran down the field on their last 2 drives with ease.
What if we needed 7 to go to OT? Or we kick a FG and lose by 4? Then the story is that we should have been more aggressive.
We watched the game.
We had 6 TOs by QBs.
No we would have been pissed the defense lost the game
Being aggressive gets you beat in this league when you should be conservative.
Maryland scored one TD all game. With NU offense. You have to take points. Points are at a premium with how inept the offense is. Also 3 runs in the goal to go situation keeps the clock moving. I like this staff. But they blew this one. You have to take the points in this situation
they rushed for 100 yards in the 4th quarter. They were finding their groove late in the game, like Nebraska did against Miami in 1995.
We didn’t call a pass play on 1st down. That was all Chubba. 2nd down lost 2 yards. With the offensive momentum MD had, they score a TD. They shut it down to try a FG. I’m comfortable believing MD scores what was needed to win or tie.
So what. Was evidence itself not enough to show you what happened. That late in the 4th and they still only had 10 points take the lead. I do like the fact you glossed over the opportunity to milk the clock keeping with the running game
They’re a soft team coached by an idiot
We score and their morale is destroyed
Instead we added a metric ton of fuel to their fire
50 of those 100 4th Q rush yards came directly after the INT
it is easy to see things in hindsight of course but a FG doesn't guarantee a win
Neither does a td then. They would have scored easy according to you and won in OT
Why do you keep saying it's a throw away? It goes on our record, on Rhule's record, on the kids who only have so many years to play. This attitude is just insane, I can't fathom thinking that "going into a shell to win" is somehow bad. It makes no sense.
look at Rhule's history of how he builds programs. Stunting long term development for a transition year isn't wise.
Do you think he WANTED to have a bad first year? Like, that was the plan? In what world is it where you can't have some success and develop at the same time? And news flash, he won't be here very long anyway, if he does poorly he'll be gone in a few seasons. If he does amazing, he'll be gone in a few seasons. There's no "long term" to even be worried about...
I never insinuated that he wanted to have a bad first year. And pure conjecture on the bolded.
Fans can't see the forest for the trees. Things don't go the way they think they should and want to entertain and inject all sorts of stupid BS on a coach who isn't going to bend the knee like Riley did.
You keep saying that his first year being terrible is just part of the process or something, that's just insanity. There's nothing that says you can't build a culture AND win your first season. It's not some grand plan to not win games...I can't believe this is even a discussion. You're paid to win if you're a coach, you don't lose games in the interest of "growth" or whatever nonsense you are trying to defend.
you are saying a lot without saying anything. I never said any of what you suggest. You put your system in place and win with that system and improve in that system. What coaches listen to fans' hairbrained schemes? Only the weak ones, like Riley.
the "smarter play" is the one that works in hindsight, bucko
I said that being conservative at times can be the smart move but having your offense as a whole gimp itself is bad in the long run.
Matt Rhule's first year as head coach was ten years ago. The face of college football has been turned inside out since then. If Rhule truly thinks we're going to paddy cake and dance around like faeries for three years he's going to he so far behind he'll be burned at some proverbial stake.
I've been coaching for what seems like forever. I never approached a situation in a game where I thought geez...lets be careless and take the risk of losing this game because it might build a championship down the road. And we have played for many championships.
I understand what your trying to say....and I would agree when you are in a different position in the game and as a program. Getting to a bowl and getting the extra practices and experiences far exceeds the idea that we have to be stupid and careless to prove that we aren't afraid to make mistakes.
That sounds good in premise. I also think most people would understand it. At least I know I do.
Here's the conflict though. As that worth risking a bowl game and 15 more practices for a program who hasn't been to one in 6 years? See that's the flip side of it. Try telling that to someone as the reason you missed a bowl. That's gonna be a hard sell
Best case scenario is you have your bowl game secured (we should have ours now but don't). Then we can absolutely do what you are suggesting and at least people would be able to understand it more. But man until then this fan base is absolutely starved for a bowl. My guess is they would sacrifice a bit next year for a bowl game THIS year. Not to mention the 15 practices you get by making a bowl game.
Tough position to be in and I understand both sides. But if I'm being perfectly honest I'd lean on the side of the bowl game and 15 practices THIS year. Chances are none of the QBs will be starting next year anyways so unless something horrible happens we have a new QB . I say make the bowl NOW, get the practices and deal with everything else as it comes
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