Mulder???

UKCAT5FAN

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Wrong. He gave up ONE.

Briscoe - 3
Monk - 3
Gabriel - 2
Mulder - 1
Bam - 1
Humphries - 1

Now, he probably would have given up more, but he didn't play after being taken out with 5 to go in the first half.


He definitely gave up more than one. Cal said in the post game that someone gave up 4 treys and he took him out. Didn't say who but I'm assuming it was Mr. Mulder. Could be wrong though.
 

Primedfor9

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Because of confidence. You don't put a guy with confidence issues in that situation.


We needed stops during the game. We couldn't trade shot for shot. We needed stops and I'm sorry but Mulder is not going to get you stops on the defensive end. Did you see the way he played against Florida when he got a lot of minutes? It was bad and you can easily see that he has a confidence issue. He was making bone headed mistakes, making turnovers, giving up easy points, and bricking layups. I didn't think I'd hear another word about Mulder's mins after that game but I guess I was wrong.
Gee, wonder what could cause Mulder to have confidence issues.
 
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Randy Bob

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Talking about Mulder did not play defense, did not look like anyone else was playing either when he was in there..
 

marshalfan

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Mulder went immediately after
Hawkins lost the ball and monk and another UK player got on the floor. Mulder was really close to the play and did not get very involved
 
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K-Town Kat

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I usually don't critique Cal's PT decisions much, but I do think Mulder deserved a bit more clock last night. Not every game, but he was a big spark in a crucial point in that first half. If he doesn't hit that 3 when we wen own 19, and misses, Vandy was hot and could have went down to make it 21-22. Different game then? Who knows, but it was a HUGE shot he made.
 
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I usually don't critique Cal's PT decisions much, but I do think Mulder deserved a bit more clock last night. Not every game, but he was a big spark in a crucial point in that first half. If he doesn't hit that 3 when we wen own 19, and misses, Vandy was hot and could have went down to make it 21-22. Different game then? Who knows, but it was a HUGE shot he made.

Mulder was -5 in just 7 minutes last night. Only player who was worse was hump.

There is a difference in perceived spark and actual reality
 

MakinMusic_rivals

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Defense, defense, defense. I have a hard time understanding why many fans don't see that. There is something about basketball that only allows some fans to notice offense.
 

Dablueman

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Mulder is 11 for 11 from the free throw line for the year. Why would you have Briscoe or Willis out there in the last 2 minutes of the game when it is becoming a free throw game and you have a guy shooting 100%? The fact that Mulder played good for the few minutes he was in there and didn't get a chance is one thing, but not having him in the game to have another good free throw shooter is beyond me.
Cause both Mulder and Cal have admitted to mike struggling with nerves and was his biggest problem last year. So no thanks.
 

ManitouDan_anon

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You can disagree with me all you want but pike can stick the attempt to label me as anti UK where the sun don't shine . Uncalled for crap .
 

Bkocats

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Mulder was -5 in just 7 minutes last night. Only player who was worse was hump.

There is a difference in perceived spark and actual reality
Hump didn't play much, either (3 minutes). We need a petition to get him more minutes :sunglasses:
 
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Mulder was -5 in just 7 minutes last night. Only player who was worse was hump.

There is a difference in perceived spark and actual reality

That is pretty much because Mulder played almost all of his mins at the beginning when we got down 25-6. He wasn't in during the comeback, so he couldn't improve his +/- number. He did score 5 pts though, and only gave up one 3, despite what some people think.
 
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Ukbrassowtipin

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We won the game and played much better D in the second half. I don't care who plays as long as we win...that's what the TEAM should be about. Sorry some ppl are obsessed with picking favorites
 
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That is pretty much because Mulder played almost all of his mins at the beginning when we got down 25-6. He wasn't in during the comeback, so he couldn't improve his +/- number. He did score 5 pts though, and only gave up one 3, despite what some people think.

So most of Mulder minutes came in the beginning when the team got down big, the comeback happen while he was on the bench....such a odd coincidence.
 
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pikespeak1

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Grow up . I've cheered on the Cats for 40 plus years . I guess if you have nothing to fire with just cry " troll "
Every post that I've ever seen you make is one of four things:
1. Negative
2. Attack UK players
3. Attack UK coach
4. Cry about being called a troll for 1-3
Don't like it? Take a look in the mirror and consider making a change.
 

GonzoCat90

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First of all, I'd like to send you all my condolences on our win last night.

I'm very sorry that 19 point deficit didn't stick and that we were able to come back despite not shooting well or having Monk go off so that you can only attribute it to heart and coaching. I know that's hard for you guys.

To the "point," I'd like to say that if we had come back from down 19 with Briscoe playing 0 minutes, you'd all be using that as validation for throwing him in a wood chipper.

Further, if you've ever played or even watched basketball, you're likely familiar with the concept of role players. Mulder is a role player. His role is to provide offense and shooting off the bench when we need it. He came in and did that. He also hurt us a bit defensively and had an instance where he didn't give full effort on a loose ball.

Those things are okay. No one on the team plays a perfect game, ever. The point is that Mulder filled his situational role and then we went back to the regular rotation. Imagine a manager bringing in a reliever to get back to back power hitting left handers out. He doesn't let that pitcher finish the game.

The idea that Cal has favorites and that that somehow yields Hawkins and Willis playing (who until recently weren't Cal's favorites and therefore didn't get to play) while Mulder, two five stars and a four star sit on the bench, would be laughable if you guys weren't so dangerously stupid and didn't actually believe it.

I'm sure trotting Derek touching Willis out at the four spot while blue chip recruits like SKJ and Gabriel play less is all part of Cal's "I only care about NBA prospects" master plan to sabotage the history and success of UK basketball in order to glorify a future Euroleaguer from Mt Washington.
 

Wall2Boogie

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Reading these threads reminds me of the fun we will have if we lose in the tournament. A lot of timeouts for posters and the trolls will be out in full force
 
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Stonewall12

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First of all, I'd like to send you all my condolences on our win last night.

I'm very sorry that 19 point deficit didn't stick and that we were able to come back despite not shooting well or having Monk go off so that you can only attribute it to heart and coaching. I know that's hard for you guys.

To the "point," I'd like to say that if we had come back from down 19 with Briscoe playing 0 minutes, you'd all be using that as validation for throwing him in a wood chipper.

Further, if you've ever played or even watched basketball, you're likely familiar with the concept of role players. Mulder is a role player. His role is to provide offense and shooting off the bench when we need it. He came in and did that. He also hurt us a bit defensively and had an instance where he didn't give full effort on a loose ball.

Those things are okay. No one on the team plays a perfect game, ever. The point is that Mulder filled his situational role and then we went back to the regular rotation. Imagine a manager bringing in a reliever to get back to back power hitting left handers out. He doesn't let that pitcher finish the game.

The idea that Cal has favorites and that that somehow yields Hawkins and Willis playing (who until recently weren't Cal's favorites and therefore didn't get to play) while Mulder, two five stars and a four star sit on the bench, would be laughable if you guys weren't so dangerously stupid and didn't actually believe it.

I'm sure trotting Derek touching Willis out at the four spot while blue chip recruits like SKJ and Gabriel play less is all part of Cal's "I only care about NBA prospects" master plan to sabotage the history and success of UK basketball in order to glorify a future Euroleaguer from Mt Washington.
False
 

anon1763419335

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That is pretty much because Mulder played almost all of his mins at the beginning when we got down 25-6. He wasn't in during the comeback, so he couldn't improve his +/- number. He did score 5 pts though, and only gave up one 3, despite what some people think.

hmmmm
 
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ManitouDan_anon

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Every post that I've ever seen you make is one of four things:
1. Negative
2. Attack UK players
3. Attack UK coach
4. Cry about being called a troll for 1-3
Don't like it? Take a look in the mirror and consider making a change.

In the words of great American Donald J Trump " Wrong " .
Yes the second half season has been rough ,we have went from (IMO ) the 2nd most fun team to watch of the Cal era , a total freaking blast , to inching past bad teams in Rupp arena . I have been frustrated but to say " every post " is attacking a player , or Cal is utter nonsense . Briscoe's style grinds on my nerves , as does Cal"s handling of him . But isiah gives his heart soul and body fighting for us and I have never questioned his desire , nor ever said I'd like Cal gone . In near every case the opposite is true . Heck I've spent 1/2 my time on here defending Derek and Dom from random crappy post .
 

jc2010

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He wasn't the sole reason....but your argument for him to play doesn't make sense if you say he was in the game when we were getting blown out and out of the game when we made the comeback
It makes sense if you watched the game. During the time he was in the game his teammates couldn't throw it in the ocean and were turning it over, things he can't control. He was not in the game when when Vandy started missing and we started hitting. If not for Mulder, it would have been more than a 19 pt deficit

From John Scott's site
Vanderbilt Game
Kentucky

Name Rating Grade
Isaiah Briscoe
.88 B
Edrice Adebayo .79 B
Mychal Mulder .75 B-
Isaac Humphries .63 B-
Malik Monk .57 C+
Derek Willis .51 C+
De'Aaron Fox .43 C
Dominique Hawkins .2 C-
Wenyen Gabriel -.3 D
Vanderbilt

Name Rating Grade
Luke Kornet .86 B
Nolan Cressler .43 C
Riley LaChance .38 C
Payton Willis .37 C
Joe Toye .32 C
Jeff Roberson .28 C
Matthe Fisher-Davis -.04 D+
Clevon Brown -.11 D+
Djery Baptiste -.75 D-
 
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pikespeak1

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In the words of great American Donald J Trump " Wrong " .
Yes the second half season has been rough ,we have went from (IMO ) the 2nd most fun team to watch of the Cal era , a total freaking blast , to inching past bad teams in Rupp arena . I have been frustrated but to say " every post " is attacking a player , or Cal is utter nonsense . Briscoe's style grinds on my nerves , as does Cal"s handling of him . But isiah gives his heart soul and body fighting for us and I have never questioned his desire , nor ever said I'd like Cal gone . In near every case the opposite is true . Heck I've spent 1/2 my time on here defending Derek and Dom from random crappy post .
Now you are building straw men to attack rather than addressing my points.
 
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WildMoon

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:popcorn:

FACT:
You guys have your favorites far more than Coach Cal does. Please stop fighting based on who your favorites are.

Thanks,
 
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Cindog28

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and here we go again. :popcorn:
o_O:gun:
Yep. Unlike some of my fellow UK fans I was actually HAPPY that UK came back to win last night. Sorry. Seems like they really came together as a team in the second half... even if it was a mistake to give Mulder less clock. I'm sure he'll be selected as an NBA lottery pick. So unfair.

I wasn't sure if there was anyway Vandy could run with UK for 40 minutes. Full court pressure was a crucial decision in the game. Congratulations to the RR poster who contacted Calipari and advised him to pick up the intensity in the 2nd half. Great call. :fistbump:

[winking]
 
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He wasn't the sole reason....but your argument for him to play doesn't make sense if you say he was in the game when we were getting blown out and out of the game when we made the comeback

Yeah, I wasn't making an argument for him to play more. I was explaining the reason he had a negative +/-, and to dispel the myth that he gave up a bunch of 3s. I have no problem with what Cal did. We won, which is the most important thing. I think if Mulder played 15-20 mins, his defense would probably hurt us as much as any offense he gives us. Maybe Cal has the equation just right. Play him enought to give us some points, but not too much to hurt us.
 

Panthur

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I hope these losers realize our team hates them. I'm guessing these types have never been on teams themselves and don't realize the very players they're trying to hype are thinking, "say that sh-- about my teammates, try not to meet me in an alley."
 

lkc1021

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I was referring to being up 7 after Monk hit the 3 and there was only 48 seconds left in the game. At that point of the game, its about perimeter defense and free throws. I would have Mulder out on the floor rather than Willis or Briscoe.
Glad you don't coach.
 

kybassfan

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This is why we have a top notch coach to make decisions. You can't screech, 'Look at my boy!' and cherry pick one or two stats to make your case. Plus, threads like this invite derogatory comments about a Kentucky basketball player as posters attempt to bring the 'happy stats' into context.

Mulder gets what he earns. Nobody knows that better than Mulder. This is division 1 college basketball at one of the most elite programs in history. We don't take turns!
 
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