Mo's Case

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Wow, could this really go to trial? That seems insane. Thought these type of cases always go to a plea deal. I guess it depends how hard the state wants to push it and how innocent Mo thinks he is. I thought plea deal, guilty of the misdemeanor, drop the child porn, would be an easy done deal.
I hope so. Even if he gets off, and dons the home colors- what he did was evil, cruel, insert any descriptor. The least he can endure is having it laid bare and answering questions.
 
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I see your point. No where did I say what he did was right. It wasn't, it was dumb, it was childish and it involved breaking laws. I am not excusing his behavior at all. What Im saying is his potential punishment (being labeled a sex offender for the rest of his life, and being kicked out of school) do not fit the crime. In my opinion.
The ONLY reason I bring up the 2 boys is to show that these boys allegedly assaulted/ raped a girl and they got a slap on the wrist. So I find it disturbing that many think Mos should be punished more severely than the 2 boys who actually committed the crime. This country is lacking common sense. I just hate to see a kids life destroyed because of it. Im not saying this because I care if he is on the team. From a team stand point we will be fine and he can be replaced.


The amount of confusion and misrepresenting of the events is amazing.

- The female did not originally press charges against the boys in the video. She stated that she just wanted to forget it happened and move on with her life. After Washington allegedly sent her the video, she decided to look into pursuing charges against the boys. -

- So there was no investigation conducted into an alleged sexual assault because she never said it was sexual assault.

- The boy who's phone was used to record and originally send the video was charged with child porn and sentenced for that crime. Since he was a minor, that penalty was less than it would be if he was a 40 year old man with a copy of that same video.

- Washington's charges are only related to the 2 boys because they produced the video in question. He has allegedly held on to the video for multiple years and allegedly used it as a weapon to harm the female. That is what he is charged with. Yes, he doesn't commit this crime if there was no video sent to him, but the charges and subsequent punishment of the two boys, is not at all relevent to what Washington is alleged to have done.

- The kid's life is on the verge of being destroyed because he made a series of poor decisions. He kept a video, he tried to make advances to the girl, when she said no, he got pissed and sent her a video, a video that he was told to delete 3 years ago. If he had just deleted the video, he isn't in this position. Period.

- I agree with JohnRossEwing in that we probably don't care about this if Washington was just a random dude from the San Jose area. But if Washington had chosen say Ohio St over Nebraska, and this story comes out, I would bet the number of posters who would be defending him, and saying the punishment doesn't fit the crime would be less than zero. Just think back to the Jameis Winston stuff at Florida St, every board outside of Tallahassee wanted that dude fried and the Seminole fans defended him or said, it's not that big of a deal
 

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I hope so. Even if he gets off, and dons the home colors- what he did was evil, cruel, insert any descriptor. The least he can endure is having it laid bare and answering questions.

So if he is found not guilty...you want him to have to answer questions about it?

I feel like if it is found to be not guilty that he should be left alone about it...with that said I do not think he will end up being not guilty of all charges.
 
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So if he is found not guilty...you want him to have to answer questions about it?

I feel like if it is found to be not guilty that he should be left alone about it...with that said I do not think he will end up being not guilty of all charges.
Agree, it is in the hands of the courts at this point. Unfortunately they aren't perfect. What they decide he will have to live with the consequences. Not all of us. I also agree that it will be and should be charged with revenge porn (if he did sent the video). Although I have heard that it wasn't his phone who sent her the video. Not sure if the is fact or not.
 
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Agree, it is in the hands of the courts at this point. Unfortunately they aren't perfect. What they decide he will have to live with the consequences. Not all of us. I also agree that it will be and should be charged with revenge porn (if he did sent the video). Although I have heard that it wasn't his phone who sent her the video. Not sure if the is fact or not.

It was his stepdads phone. I can’t fathom his stepdad having a reason to send her the video and texting “remember this hoe”. It is alleged he used his stepdads phone and that makes more sense to me than his stepdad sending it.
 
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It was his stepdads phone. I can’t fathom his stepdad having a reason to send her the video and texting “remember this hoe”. It is alleged he used his stepdads phone and that makes more sense to me than his stepdad sending it.

The phone was registered to the stepdad. All 5 phones and lines in my house are under my account and technically registered to me. I have never once given Verizon anyone's name but mine when adding lines. Verizon would have no idea who uses what line.
 
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It was his stepdads phone. I can’t fathom his stepdad having a reason to send her the video and texting “remember this hoe”. It is alleged he used his stepdads phone and that makes more sense to me than his stepdad sending it.
ahh that makes sense. Although I would assume a good defense attorney could use that to cast doubt in jury.
 

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I see your point. No where did I say what he did was right. It wasn't, it was dumb, it was childish and it involved breaking laws. I am not excusing his behavior at all. What Im saying is his potential punishment (being labeled a sex offender for the rest of his life, and being kicked out of school) do not fit the crime. In my opinion.
The ONLY reason I bring up the 2 boys is to show that these boys allegedly assaulted/ raped a girl and they got a slap on the wrist. So I find it disturbing that many think Mos should be punished more severely than the 2 boys who actually committed the crime. This country is lacking common sense. I just hate to see a kids life destroyed because of it. Im not saying this because I care if he is on the team. From a team stand point we will be fine and he can be replaced.

What the other two boys did has zero to do with Mo. He apparently kept the video, he apparently sent it to his former GF with a not so nice question for her. There is a reason he is charge with a felony. He may very well get it reduced, that would not surprise me.
 

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so our 2 main backs - one is embroiled in child pornography charges and the other is scrambling to try and get a 2.5 gpa at a JUCO.

I realize that the staff has had to scramble for recruiting but now that they are more established I hope they are able to bypass these type of targets in favor of equally talented prospects who aren't character or qualifying risks.
 

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so our 2 main backs - one is embroiled in child pornography charges and the other is scrambling to try and get a 2.5 gpa at a JUCO.

I realize that the staff has had to scramble for recruiting but now that they are more established I hope they are able to bypass these type of targets in favor of equally talented prospects who aren't character or qualifying risks.
I would agree with that.
 

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What the other two boys did has zero to do with Mo. He apparently kept the video, he apparently sent it to his former GF with a not so nice question for her. There is a reason he is charge with a felony. He may very well get it reduced, that would not surprise me.
Technically is has a lot to do with Mo. If they wouldn't have made it or sent it. He wouldn't be in this situation. Also in any court decision or case. Most of the time the judge will look back on previous, similar cases to see how that judge handle the case/ sentence. Being that these 2 boys technically recorded and sent child pornography, It is a very similar case and the exact same video. So there is very much similarities between the 2 boys and Mo when it come to how a judge and potential jury view his case. Now the biggest difference is Mo sent it 3 years later as an adult. This is where things could get interesting for Mo. Plus he has the misdemeanor revenge porn. Obviously the Child Porn is the biggest concern. While he is no threat to children sometimes in the eyes of the law it doesn't matter. That is for a judge/ jury to decide.
Now Tuco had said earlier that 1 of the boys who distributed the video originally was indeed charged with child porn. I have never heard this. If true it would be very interesting to see what his sentence was. If he was convicted I believe he would have to register as a sex offender? Now if he was just charged but never actually convicted then that is another story.
It is in the courts hands now. Whatever the verdict and outcome Frost and Co will have to figure out the correct team punishment. Mo will have to deal with it possibly the rest of his life. Hopefully he learns from his mistakes no matter the outcome.
 

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Technically is has a lot to do with Mo. If they wouldn't have made it or sent it. He wouldn't be in this situation. Also in any court decision or case. Most of the time the judge will look back on previous, similar cases to see how that judge handle the case/ sentence. Being that these 2 boys technically recorded and sent child pornography, It is a very similar case and the exact same video. So there is very much similarities between the 2 boys and Mo when it come to how a judge and potential jury view his case. Now the biggest difference is Mo sent it 3 years later as an adult. This is where things could get interesting for Mo. Plus he has the misdemeanor revenge porn. Obviously the Child Porn is the biggest concern. While he is no threat to children sometimes in the eyes of the law it doesn't matter. That is for a judge/ jury to decide.
Now Tuco had said earlier that 1 of the boys who distributed the video originally was indeed charged with child porn. I have never heard this. If true it would be very interesting to see what his sentence was. If he was convicted I believe he would have to register as a sex offender? Now if he was just charged but never actually convicted then that is another story.
It is in the courts hands now. Whatever the verdict and outcome Frost and Co will have to figure out the correct team punishment. Mo will have to deal with it possibly the rest of his life. Hopefully he learns from his mistakes no matter the outcome.

lol dude this is like saying if the colonists never left England the Vietnam War wouldn't have happened

how about he takes responsibility for his actions, deals with consequences quietly/humbly/when they're handed down and hopefully is back on the field this fall

that's it. super simple.
 

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lol dude this is like saying if the colonists never left England the Vietnam War wouldn't have happened

how about he takes responsibility for his actions, deals with consequences quietly/humbly/when they're handed down and hopefully is back on the field this fall

that's it. super simple.
Yes and no, but not going to argue with you. So far he has handled all as well as a 19 year old kid can.
 
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so our 2 main backs - one is embroiled in child pornography charges and the other is scrambling to try and get a 2.5 gpa at a JUCO.

I realize that the staff has had to scramble for recruiting but now that they are more established I hope they are able to bypass these type of targets in favor of equally talented prospects who aren't character or qualifying risks.


We would be laughing our *** off at Iowa if this was happening in reverse. Having said that I think Mo is going to clear just enough hurdles to be here...and he's lucky I ain't the one deciding it.
 

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lol dude this is like saying if the colonists never left England the Vietnam War wouldn't have happened

how about he takes responsibility for his actions, deals with consequences quietly/humbly/when they're handed down and hopefully is back on the field this fall

that's it. super simple.

There is a Qb that plays for Tampa Bay who has probably raped at least two woman, is likely a serial rapist, and ruined the life publicly of one of his victims. Circumstance decided that he would not tried, not be convicted, not be incarcerated..but instead be a first round pick, a millionaire, and an NFL qb by the end of 20s. I have no problem with Mo trying to get out of this, if it works and he plays football well, everyone will forget about the text and he will become a millionaire and momentary success. If he is humble and takes his whippin' he will likely be kicked off the team and at best be a low level college player, not get the development he needs and....
 

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We would be laughing our *** off at Iowa if this was happening in reverse. Having said that I think Mo is going to clear just enough hurdles to be here...and he's lucky I ain't the one deciding it.
If he did what he is charged with. Distributing Child Porn and Revenge porn. What bothers you the most in his case? If you were deciding what would his punishment be in the eyes of the law and from a team stand point and why? Would it be based on crime alone? Would it be based on his low moral compass alone? Maybe a bit of both?
Yes I agree if this was Iowa most of us would probably view it a bit differently. I still wouldn't want a kids life to be ruined over it however. Doesn't matter what team they play for.
 
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lol dude this is like saying if the colonists never left England the Vietnam War wouldn't have happened

how about he takes responsibility for his actions, deals with consequences quietly/humbly/when they're handed down and hopefully is back on the field this fall

that's it. super simple.


And so goes the problem with our society. It isn't my fault.

So every DUI conviction should be blamed on the bartender who served the drinks, the company who made the beverage and the car manufacturer, after all, if they didn't make cars they wouldn't have been driving.

In Washington's case, I blame phone manufacturers. If they wouldn't have made phones with cameras, Washington would have never had the video to begin with.