Moos ... preaching patience

[TruHusker]

Well, I am not one to follow the crowd and drink the red stuff.

I don't think this is the big total rebuild some are making it out to be. Its not like we were loaded but the cupboard was not completely bare.

I have personally known several players who walked on at Nebraska and they had a great experience under Tom. However, thinking that having 150 players that need to be coached with no more coaches doesn't make sense to me. There is a point where the returns will diminish. If we have a lot of walk on's winning position battles, someone better question the recruiting. Just my two cents

 

[Headcard]

He’s come a long way from saying Ohio St and Michigan are running a little bit scared right now.

That was two major blow outs and 14 losses ago though.

He said the exact same thing preseason, but keep sharpening that pitchfork.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

He said the exact same thing preseason, but keep sharpening that pitchfork.

And Frost said he would get this bad boy rolling in year 2. What’s your point? So what happens if Frost doesn’t make Moos’s preseason expectations? Is it okay to call it a failure?

As I said, Moos has come a long way since saying Mich and OSU are running a little scared right now.

 

[B1G RED RULES]

Weren’t Urban Meyer and Jim Harbaugh scared or something?

Yes - this crew and their alligator mouths...

 

[John_J_Rambo]

And Frost said he would get this bad boy rolling in year 2. What’s your point? So what happens if Frost doesn’t make Moos’s preseason expectations? Is it okay to call it a failure?

As I said, Moos has come a long way since saying Mich and OSU are running a little scared right now.

whatever happens, there's little doubt you'll continue to both act like and be thought of as a tremendous douche

 

[SoFL Husker]

yep, give me all the will honases and none of the wan'dale robinsons

facts only on this board

WD legit 4/5 star.

All our other options, suck, and are developmental.

Frost is playing the board, for next year, and pumping as many players into development. I get it.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

whatever happens, there's little doubt you'll continue to both act like and be thought of as a tremendous douche

Says the crybaby that cries about how terrible this board is and yet shows up every single day. Laughing

Oh and....pot meet kettle.

 

[John_J_Rambo]

Says the crybaby that cries about how terrible this board is and yet shows up every single day. Laughing

*who* cries

grammar isn't difficult. since none of your takes are close to intelligent, the least you can do is make your preschool insults read correctly.

 

[uberism1111]

When Frost arrived there were zero RB's that fit Frost's system and the RB coach that was under Riley couldn't even get a RB to visit campus. Riley had a DL caoch that couldn't get anyone to visit either. Then you had Bray that sucked *** at linebacker recruiting. Then you had a DB room so mentally soft that they had no clue how to cover guys and also come up to stuff the run.

There were zero QB's on the roster that fit what Frost runs. We couldn't even run a 5 WR set because the alcoholic WR coach under Riley left that unit so depleted it wasn't even as talented as your average FCS program.

Frost tried some quick fixes with a JUCO RB that left. He tried a quick fix with some JUCO WR's that will end this season without accomplishing anything. He has rebuilt the QB room in it's entirety. The DB's are now able to cover a WR. Linebacker, IL and DL still need fixing.

People don't realize how bad the roster was when Frost arrived. The upperlcmassen didn't know how to prepare for games, didn't know how to study film, were not required to do back squats, were able to stand around at practices doing nothing, get served ice cream because practices were oh so hard on their bodies.......I could keep going too.

The roster when Frost arrived was NOT anymore talented than 12 other teams in the Big Ten. Players were NOT getting developed when they arrived to campus under Riley.

It took Frost to find Ozigbo. Ozigbo ows his NFL career to Frost as Riley would have killed any chance.

Frost will have the program rebuilt soon but this year was NOT the year for it to happen. Any intelligent football mind knew that.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

*who* cries

grammar isn't difficult. since none of your takes are close to intelligent, the least you can do is make your preschool insults read correctly.

Exactly. One thing is for sure....I will continue to live rent free in your head. Doesn’t take make to get under your skin.

 

[WoodRiverJennings]

It is easier to whine and cry than actually look at the challenges. It must be a stress free life to be that way as it requires zero mental lifting...

One of the biggest challenges is overcoming a subpar coaching staff. Might even be the biggest challenge. Maybe they can get it together and improve quickly, but the odds aren't in our favor judging by what we've seen so far.

 

[John_J_Rambo]

Exactly. One thing is for sure....I will continue to live rent free in your head. Doesn’t take make to get under your skin.

doesn't take make?

c'mon, man. you're better than that, aren't you?

 

[Headcard]

And Frost said he would get this bad boy rolling in year 2. What’s your point? So what happens if Frost doesn’t make Moos’s preseason expectations? Is it okay to call it a failure?

As I said, Moos has come a long way since saying Mich and OSU are running a little scared right now.

My point is that it isn’t some grand conspiracy or moving of goalposts or whatever, he’s been pretty consistent.

As for what you call it, call it what you want. To me this season is a failure, short of winning out. I won’t be able to look at this season and not see three games we have away and all the lost momentum on the recruiting trail. The difference is, I see nothing to be gained from the insane antics of people like the OP. We need this thing to work, we need Frost to improve, recruit better and make some tough choices. The overly critical attacking of everything Nebraska football is counterproductive to fixing this. The personal attacks on coaches, players and everything associated with the team is not healthy and honestly it’s exhausting.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

doesn't take make?

c'mon, man. you're better than that, aren't you?

Says the guy who thinks using the word “cries” is bad grammar.

I will give you 5 more posts until you have a temper tantrum on how terrible this board is. Yet, you will be on here in the morning.

 

[CatColumbia]

When Frost arrived there were zero RB's that fit Frost's system and the RB coach that was under Riley couldn't even get a RB to visit campus. Riley had a DL caoch that couldn't get anyone to visit either. Then you had Bray that sucked *** at linebacker recruiting. Then you had a DB room so mentally soft that they had no clue how to cover guys and also come up to stuff the run.

There were zero QB's on the roster that fit what Frost runs. We couldn't even run a 5 WR set because the alcoholic WR coach under Riley left that unit so depleted it wasn't even as talented as your average FCS program.

Frost tried some quick fixes with a JUCO RB that left. He tried a quick fix with some JUCO WR's that will end this season without accomplishing anything. He has rebuilt the QB room in it's entirety. The DB's are now able to cover a WR. Linebacker, IL and DL still need fixing.

People don't realize how bad the roster was when Frost arrived. The upperlcmassen didn't know how to prepare for games, didn't know how to study film, were not required to do back squats, were able to stand around at practices doing nothing, get served ice cream because practices were oh so hard on their bodies.......I could keep going too.

The roster when Frost arrived was NOT anymore talented than 12 other teams in the Big Ten. Players were NOT getting developed when they arrived to campus under Riley.

It took Frost to find Ozigbo. Ozigbo ows his NFL career to Frost as Riley would have killed any chance.

Frost will have the program rebuilt soon but this year was NOT the year for it to happen. Any intelligent football mind knew that.

The Blaming Riley ship has sailed. We should have been able to see some improvement after our first bye week. That’s after having these boys for 18 months. Like it or not, these are Frosts boys. Sure there is still the weak mentality that has carried over from Riley but Frost being the offensive genius that he is, he should have been able to out scheme other coaches. Instead, some of the red zone play calling has been baffling.

 

[uberism1111]

The Blaming Riley ship has sailed. We should have been able to see some improvement after our first bye week. That’s after having these boys for 18 months. Like it or not, these are Frosts boys. Sure there is still the weak mentality that has carried over from Riley but Frost being the offensive genius that he is, he should have been able to out scheme other coaches. Instead, some of the red zone play calling has been baffling.

100% false. Those older players are damaged goods. Multiple position coaches. Lack of development. New schemes every year. The Davis Twins have been here so long that they were committed to Bo lol. Riley went and got them fat.

AFTER next year is when the roster is Frost's. There are still some guys around that haven't done jack **** in their career that were brought in by Riley and were not developed that need to hit the road jack so we can bring in players tha twill actually accomplish something on the field.

In 2 more years the roster will be officially flipped and the culture well on its way to be cemented in place.

Trying to deny the shitasktic job of Riley is not only ignorant, it's dumb. It shows a total lack of football intelligence.

 

[John_J_Rambo]

Says the guy who thinks using the word “cries” is bad grammar.

I will give you 5 more posts until you have a temper tantrum on how terrible this board is. Yet, you will be on here int he morning.

hahahahaha this is really an amazing response. you can't be serious?

using 'that' instead of 'who' in front of cries is poor grammar.

man, just when you think a guy can't get any dumber. well done, sir. well done. now I actually am crying RollingLaughLaughingLaughingRollingLaugh

 

[CatColumbia]

My point is that it isn’t some grand conspiracy or moving of goalposts or whatever, he’s been pretty consistent.

As for what you call it, call it what you want. To me this season is a failure, short of winning out. I won’t be able to look at this season and not see three games we have away and all the lost momentum on the recruiting trail. The difference is, I see nothing to be gained from the insane antics of people like the OP. We need this thing to work, we need Frost to improve, recruit better and make some tough choices. The overly critical attacking of everything Nebraska football is counterproductive to fixing this. The personal attacks on coaches, players and everything associated with the team is not healthy and honestly it’s exhausting.

We haven’t won a game in over a month and we just had a bye week so that’s the reasoning for all the negativity. Trust me, other teams’ fans are way more critical than what has been said on this board and it hasn’t hurt their performance or recruiting. Just check out Alabama’s or Florida States board after a loss.

 

[CatColumbia]

100% false. Those older players are damaged goods. Multiple position coaches. Lack of development. New schemes every year. The Davis Twins have been here so long that they were committed to Bo lol. Riley went and got them fat.

AFTER next year is when the roster is Frost's. There are still some guys around that haven't done jack **** in their career that were brought in by Riley and were not developed that need to hit the road jack so we can bring in players tha twill actually accomplish something on the field.

In 2 more years the roster will be officially flipped and the culture well on its way to be cemented in place.

Trying to deny the shitasktic job of Riley is not only ignorant, it's dumb. It shows a total lack of football intelligence.

OK, let’s say you’re right. Riley got our D-Lineman fat. Frost has had 18 months of war daddy with them. Last I checked, you don’t need 18 months to get in playing shape.

 

[Headcard]

We haven’t won a game in over a month and we just had a bye week so that’s the reasoning for all the negativity. Trust me, other teams’ fans are way more critical than what has been said on this board and it hasn’t hurt their performance or recruiting. Just check out Alabama’s or Florida States board after a loss.

You are obviously a smart guy that knows football, but I think you are underestimating the fishbowl that is Nebraska football. We have seen this thing turn toxic before and it honestly feels like we are on the verge of it again, already.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

hahahahaha this is really an amazing response. you can't be serious?

using 'that' instead of 'who' in front of cries is poor grammar.

man, just when you think a guy can't get any dumber. well done, sir. well done. now I actually am crying RollingLaughLaughingLaughingRollingLaugh

You do realize you should capitalize words after a sentence right? Lazy. Crybaby and lazy is no way to go thru life. I look forward to you continuing to hang on to every post of mine. *triggered*

 

[uberism1111]

OK, let’s say you’re right. Riley got our D-Lineman fat. Frost has had 18 months of war daddy with them. Last I checked, you don’t need 18 months to get in playing shape.

You can run them as hard as you can to the point they puke. If they eat fast food on their own, which these twins do, then training has no impact. Look at Ozigbo, a guy that bought in and changed his body in a single off-season. When you see how "big" Ty Robinson is already you will be like "holy ****, that guy put on that much muscle already?"

These freshman offensive lineman will be 300 pounds plus by next season. Jurgens already went from a TE weight to just under what an offensive lineman should weigh. Next year his body will be correctly bulked into a monster, athletic offensive lineman.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

100% false. Those older players are damaged goods. Multiple position coaches. Lack of development. New schemes every year. The Davis Twins have been here so long that they were committed to Bo lol. Riley went and got them fat.

AFTER next year is when the roster is Frost's. There are still some guys around that haven't done jack **** in their career that were brought in by Riley and were not developed that need to hit the road jack so we can bring in players tha twill actually accomplish something on the field.

In 2 more years the roster will be officially flipped and the culture well on its way to be cemented in place.

Trying to deny the shitasktic job of Riley is not only ignorant, it's dumb. It shows a total lack of football intelligence.

Multiple position coaches yet you have called for Chinander to be fired?

 

[schuele]

This is one of the things I despise about sportswriters on Twitter. If Moos made the walk-on program the centerpiece of his remarks about rebuilding the program, I would be the first to laugh my *** off. But if the walk-on program was one of 15 things he included, that's a different matter entirely. When a tweet plucks only one sentence from his remarks, I have no idea whether he shouted WALK-ONS WILL SAVE US from the highest mountaintop, or he merely mentioned it.

 

[Headcard]

This is one of the things I despise about sportswriters on Twitter. If Moos made the walk-on program the centerpiece of his remarks about rebuilding the program, I would be the first to laugh my *** off. But if the walk-on program was one of 15 things he included, that's a different matter entirely. When a tweet plucks only one sentence from his remarks, I have no idea whether he shouted WALK-ONS WILL SAVE US from the highest mountaintop, or he merely mentioned it.

I didn’t hear the interview, but I assume he meant second year of rebuilding the walk on program.

Also, this will sound very un-Husker like. But does anyone else think the walk on program is over rated? I know we have had some great walk on stories, but things have changed in CFB. Very few contributors, tons of time and resources, far few coaches to work with the expanded roster. I mean, we need a walk on program, but 150 players? That seems hard to manage in this day and age.

 

[MikeRileyGBR]

Multiple position coaches yet you have called for Chinander to be fired?

To be fair, Chinander does suck

 

[Harry Caray]

You can run them as hard as you can to the point they puke. If they eat fast food on their own, which these twins do, then training has no impact. Look at Ozigbo, a guy that bought in and changed his body in a single off-season. When you see how "big" Ty Robinson is already you will be like "holy ****, that guy put on that much muscle already?"

These freshman offensive lineman will be 300 pounds plus by next season. Jurgens already went from a TE weight to just under what an offensive lineman should weigh. Next year his body will be correctly bulked into a monster, athletic offensive lineman.

Then why does Frost continue to play the twins, if they don't do what he tells them to? There are other defensive linemen on the roster. If we're going to suck anyway, play the ones who do what they are supposed to do.

 

[HuskerBruce81]

When Frost arrived there were zero RB's that fit Frost's system and the RB coach that was under Riley couldn't even get a RB to visit campus. Riley had a DL caoch that couldn't get anyone to visit either. Then you had Bray that sucked *** at linebacker recruiting. Then you had a DB room so mentally soft that they had no clue how to cover guys and also come up to stuff the run.

There were zero QB's on the roster that fit what Frost runs. We couldn't even run a 5 WR set because the alcoholic WR coach under Riley left that unit so depleted it wasn't even as talented as your average FCS program.

Frost tried some quick fixes with a JUCO RB that left. He tried a quick fix with some JUCO WR's that will end this season without accomplishing anything. He has rebuilt the QB room in it's entirety. The DB's are now able to cover a WR. Linebacker, IL and DL still need fixing.

People don't realize how bad the roster was when Frost arrived. The upperlcmassen didn't know how to prepare for games, didn't know how to study film, were not required to do back squats, were able to stand around at practices doing nothing, get served ice cream because practices were oh so hard on their bodies.......I could keep going too.

The roster when Frost arrived was NOT anymore talented than 12 other teams in the Big Ten. Players were NOT getting developed when they arrived to campus under Riley.

It took Frost to find Ozigbo. Ozigbo ows his NFL career to Frost as Riley would have killed any chance.

Frost will have the program rebuilt soon but this year was NOT the year for it to happen. Any intelligent football mind knew that.

Who does Janovich owe his NFL contract to?

 

[WoodRiverJennings]

I didn’t hear the interview, but I assume he meant second year of rebuilding the walk on program.

Also, this will sound very un-Husker like. But does anyone else think the walk on program is over rated? I know we have had some great walk on stories, but things have changed in CFB. Very few contributors, tons of time and resources, far few coaches to work with the expanded roster. I mean, we need a walk on program, but 150 players? That seems hard to manage in this day and age.

Very overrated.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

Frost will have the program rebuilt soon but this year was NOT the year for it to happen. Any intelligent football mind knew that.

Do you realize that the intelligent mind (???) that said this WAS the year is the current head coach??

 

[WuTang_Husker]

Do you realize that the intelligent mind (???) that said this year WAS the year is the head coach??

Exactly, no amount of moving goalposts and talking about what Moos said before the season can change the fact that Frost expected a big time improvement this season, from this team and said as much on numerous occasions.

Anything else is just people lying to themselves to feel better about where this program is or isn't right now.

It's as simple as that.

 

[uberism1111]

Do you realize that the intelligent mind (???) that said this year WAS the year is the head coach??

Frost will never bash the team they suck and all of that. You that stupid not to realize that?

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

Frost will never bash the team they suck and all of that. You that stupid not to realize that?

How about just saying something like we are working hard everyday to get better and leave it at that.

his comments about competing for the Div title - look out for 2019 - we are better at every position - opens up the team to far more criticism than just remaining vanilla.

 

[o_Hit]

The Blaming Riley ship has sailed. We should have been able to see some improvement after our first bye week. That’s after having these boys for 18 months. Like it or not, these are Frosts boys. Sure there is still the weak mentality that has carried over from Riley but Frost being the offensive genius that he is, he should have been able to out scheme other coaches. Instead, some of the red zone play calling has been baffling.

Your ship has sailed...

 

[American Horse]

He did say 6 wins and a bowl would be a successful season, before the season started.

Sorry, didn’t mean to break up the mudslinging and panicking. Cary on.

Does this mean that anything less will be an "unsuccessful season?" I would love to see the Huskers get 6 wins and go bowling but right now I just dont see it happening.

 

[uberism1111]

How about just saying something like we are working hard everyday to get better and leave it at that.

his comments about competing for the Div title - look out for 2019 - we are better at every position - opens up the team to far more criticism than just remaining vanilla.

Then you and others would be going balisic and all mad because he didn't provide you enough detail or whatever crap you would want to spew. It's a new win situation among some message board posters.

All that matters is the improvement in the coming years to get the football program rebuilt. Results on the field in the coming years is all that matters, not what is said in useless media requirements.

 

[chicolby]

Two points:

1) While I would have preferred an AD and head coach to tamper expectations by saying things like "we're going to keep working on the foundation brick by brick until you see what Nebraskans are proud of - tough football executed at a high level" - I also don't blame them for being optimistic and talking about the return of the Huskers.

2) Fans that got too worked up about "year two we'll be back" would be better off putting things in perspective. They want to vent because their hopes were built up? Grow up. Go cheer for your team and quit making everything about YOUR feelings. I can promise you, those 100+ players are out there working harder than most on this board and they want to perform well. The last thing they need are angry fan boys on message boards who had their feelings hurt because of high expectations.

 

[Headcard]

Does this mean that anything less will be an "unsuccessful season?" I would love to see the Huskers get 6 wins and go bowling but right now I just dont see it happening.

That's for you to decide. To me, yes less than that would be unsuccessful, and even if we do get to 6, it will still be pretty tough for me to think of this as a successful season. However, even if I personally feel the season was not a success, I am not going to continually bash the football program and everything associated with it, like too many feel entitled to do.

 

[Headcard]

Two points:

1) While I would have preferred an AD and head coach to tamper expectations by saying things like "we're going to keep working on the foundation brick by brick until you see what Nebraskans are proud of - tough football executed at a high level" - I also don't blame them for being optimistic and talking about the return of the Huskers.

2) Fans that got too worked up about "year two we'll be back" would be better off putting things in perspective. They want to vent because their hopes were built up? Grow up. Go cheer for your team and quit making everything about YOUR feelings. I can promise you, those 100+ players are out there working harder than most on this board and they want to perform well. The last thing they need are angry fan boys on message boards who had their feelings hurt because of high expectations.

Great post. Agree 100%.

 

[dinglefritz]

I didn’t hear the interview, but I assume he meant second year of rebuilding the walk on program.

Also, this will sound very un-Husker like. But does anyone else think the walk on program is over rated? I know we have had some great walk on stories, but things have changed in CFB. Very few contributors, tons of time and resources, far few coaches to work with the expanded roster. I mean, we need a walk on program, but 150 players? That seems hard to manage in this day and age.

Well, we would have bigger problems right now than we do if not for the walk on program. Right now Hixson and Warner have been starters and Mazour a contributor to offense from the walk on program. Likewise on defense we've had guys play at safety in particular and multiple guys have been good special teams players. Punter is a walk on because the scholarship guy flamed out. I think the thing with the walk on program is how much people appreciate the effort on their part given the fact that they PAY THEIR OWN WAY. Forget pay for play. They PAY TO PLAY. Most realize that you can't build a program solely with walk ons but they sure do help you with depth at the very least.