Mizzou 2.0?

[Slippery Pete]

Someone needs to remind all of these athletes and the administration what happened to Mizzou. Athletics, especially football, pretty much went into the crapper. Enrollment suffered, donations dried up, faculty and staff positions were eliminated... The events sparking this "boycott" haven't a damn thing to do with MSU alumni/fanbase and the residents of Starkville. Yet, here they are shitting where they eat. I haven't bothered to check Twatter and see who the ringleader(s) might be, but I have a pretty good idea. Our state and our small SEC town are already hurting financially from the China virus, and we are going to take big hit locally because game day/weekend has pretty much been canceled. I will never forgive these current players IF this crap continues and businesses and the town suffers. Business owners and realtors know how important athletics are to this community and that's why they overwhelmingly support our teams.

I revised my original statement about never forgiving them for this one time episode because I realize it was too much, too soon. But many people--myself included--will not continue to put up with all of the political crap and threats to boycott, etc. I sincerely hope it doesn't come to that.

 

[hatfieldms]

They sat out one practice. Calm down

 

[Bulldog from Birth]

Which probably amounts to a rescheduling in the end. It’s just the “hip” thing to do. Following the example of the pro athletes. They never would’ve even considered it if it wasn’t what the rest of the sports world is doing. I wouldn’t worry much about it.

 

[Shamoan]

although this might be a bit of an overreaction, its worthy of consideration considering we likely have one of the most liberal AD's in the SEC.

 

[thatsbaseball]

I personally will have a question in my mind as to what their priorities are when they walk on the football field. I'm afraid we've stepped on a "slippery slope" that will eventually prove fatal to the game as we know it. WHICH ironically may the best thing that could happen.

 

[Russ Wheeler]

although this might be a bit of an overreaction, its worthy of consideration considering we likely have one of the most liberal AD's in the SEC.

^^

 

[Bulldog from Birth]

Nothing wrong with considering it. The mixture of sports and politics is VERY real. It is certainly not unimaginable that this cascades to who knows what, up to and including game boycotts. But for now, I think it’s prudent to simply assume the best for now in how we actually behave. I wouldn’t adjust attendance, donation, or viewing habits and plans based on a bunch of projections about what a team might or might not do. And as events happen, you respond then.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Okay, maybe it is an overreaction given that it's just one practice. However, these guys need to understand there is a line and people are fed up with this stuff.

 

[hatfieldms]

In their minds they are also fed up with this stuff, and are reacting how they see fit

 

[drumrcraig]

The big difference here is that Mizzou was protesting against actual issues at Mizzou. Noboby is claiming that MSU is a racist institution at the moment. The donations and stuff may have dried up, not because there were protests, but that it looked like the university had some issues that needed to be addressed and people didn't want to be a part of the university until it was.

 

[Ralph Cramden]

I personally will have a question in my mind as to what their priorities are when they walk on the football field. I'm afraid we've stepped on a "slippery slope" that will eventually prove fatal to the game as we know it. WHICH ironically may the best thing that could happen.

I hate it when I agree with you but I do think it would be a good thing to see the pro leagues viewership take a nose dive. They need a reality check as to who and what pays the bills around here

 

[Drebin]

I personally will have a question in my mind as to what their priorities are when they walk on the football field. I'm afraid we've stepped on a "slippery slope" that will eventually prove fatal to the game as we know it. WHICH ironically may the best thing that could happen.

That's not worth worrying about in my opinion. They need the sport if they aspire to play at the next level. They aren't going to risk that, just like the NBA isn't going to end the season and forfeit money.

I don't even have a problem with the team protesting. I was proud of Kylin for taking a stand over the summer. But protesting because of what happened in Wisconsin? I can't get behind that. It's gotten to the point that police are never right and suspects are never wrong. Everyone is entitled to due process and people should wait for the truth to come out. So much of this outrage is based on complete and total lies fabricated by race baiters and stoked by the media.

 

[olblue.sixpack]

Someone needs to remind all of these athletes and the administration what happened to Mizzou. Athletics, especially football, pretty much went into the crapper. Enrollment suffered, donations dried up, faculty and staff positions were eliminated... The events sparking this "boycott" haven't a damn thing to do with MSU alumni/fanbase and the residents of Starkville. Yet, here they are shitting where they eat. I haven't bothered to check Twatter and see who the ringleader(s) might be, but I have a pretty good idea. Our state and our small SEC town are already hurting financially from the China virus, and we are going to take big hit locally because game day/weekend has pretty much been canceled. They are hurting a lot of business owners who supported them and who, along with most any of the townspeople, would do anything they could to help them in times of need. I will never forgive these current players for pulling this crap because it's going to take a while to recover.

Oh my. How will they ever proceed in life without your forgiveness?

 

[Cooterpoot]

You guys are really going to lose your ish when the BLM jerseys hit the field.

 

[Shamoan]

i think its abundantly clear at this point that we will have players kneel en masse if they are given a choice, ie are out there during the national anthem. people are going to have to decide if they are ok with that and can overlook it or support it or if its a bridge too far. this is bad for fan support, but its going to be bad because of the virus no matter what.


personally, i wont know how i feel until i see it, but i dont think this is going to be a positive thing moving forward.


getting behind the flag change was something we could all support and cheer on players that stood up, but this is something different because it legitimizes the idea that there is systemic racism by a group that has questionable motives at-best.

 

[RocketDawg]

In their minds they are also fed up with this stuff, and are reacting how they see fit

Have you ever had a task at work that you didn't particularly want to do, but did it anyway because it was part of the job? I think we all have. And if we refuse to do it, then we suffer the consequences.

 

[Bulldog from Birth]

If anyone in our athletic department goes out and changes our current protocols where players are in the locker room during the national anthem, they should be fired. There is ZERO reason to change what we do now and have to manage the guaranteed drama of the kneeling debate.

 

[hatfieldms]

Have you ever had a task at work that you didn't particularly want to do, but did it anyway because it was part of the job? I think we all have. And if we refuse to do it, then we suffer the consequences.

I’m just stating their view point. Not saying whether it is right or wrong.

 

[Hankp22]

Meh

Someone needs to remind all of these athletes and the administration what happened to Mizzou. Athletics, especially football, pretty much went into the crapper. Enrollment suffered, donations dried up, faculty and staff positions were eliminated... The events sparking this "boycott" haven't a damn thing to do with MSU alumni/fanbase and the residents of Starkville. Yet, here they are shitting where they eat. I haven't bothered to check Twatter and see who the ringleader(s) might be, but I have a pretty good idea. Our state and our small SEC town are already hurting financially from the China virus, and we are going to take big hit locally because game day/weekend has pretty much been canceled. They are hurting a lot of business owners who supported them and who, along with most any of the townspeople, would do anything they could to help them in times of need. I will never forgive these current players for pulling this crap because it's going to take a while to recover.

They've shown they can play together as a team more than at any point a year ago. I'm sorry their views don't align with yours.

I support our football team and our athletes so long as they are exercising their rights in a a peaceful and legal manner.

It was only one practice and the staff apparently was on board with the move.

 

[msdawg90]

Imagine the cluster 17 of confusion when the team isn't sure which game to boycott/protest, the WHITE out or BLACK out.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Okay, but how is boycotting practice and alienating fans and supporters a "fit" response? It's like me saying that I'm fed up with black on white crime and the man and his stepdaughter that were executed by a black man in their driveway in Georgetown, SC yesterday is the last straw. Therefore, I will no longer watch MSU football.

 

[hatfieldms]

You have that right. Just like they do

 

[Slippery Pete]

I couldn't care less, sometimes tough love is the way to go. Thanks for the input, though.

 

[dawglawz]

Because they've drawn attention to the issue. That's the point of any protest. You turning your TV off is only effective at bringing attention to your issue if people gave a **** that you did. They don't.

 

[TNT.sixpack]

They've shown they can play together as a team more than at any point a year ago. I'm sorry their views don't align with yours.

I support our football team and our athletes so long as they are exercising their rights in a a peaceful and legal manner.

It was only one practice and the staff apparently was on board with the move.

Just curious, would you expect our staff to be against it? Do you think they could afford to do that? all I’m saying is I don’t think we know how they feel and we will never know. The coaching staff didn’t have much choice. In this new cancel culture, they don’t have a choice..

 

[MSUDC11]

In a vacuum, rescheduling one practice so that the team can have a unified peaceful protest is not that big of a deal. But I also understand why many have a problem with it. And the then question becomes will this be a recurring thing?

Because let me tell you, athletes can skip all of the practices and games they want and it won't change the fact that when a criminal with a weapon refuses to cooperate with police, there's a pretty good chance it's not going to end well. So as much as I hate to say it, the Jacob Blake situation will not be the last time we have a police interaction that becomes a national story, regardless of if the police are justified in their actions or not.

We are not at Missouri's level yet but don't think we can't get there pretty quick. Most of our fans were very understanding and supportive of Kylin and the university when the flag debate was going on this summer. Many still have support for what they did yesterday, but I would say it's definitely fewer fans than supported their stance on the flag. I'm not sure the majority of our fans will go along with them if these demonstrations keep happening, and that's how you end up with a situation like Missouri where the support for the program and the university takes a noticeable dip.

 

[MSUDC11]

Just curious, would you expect our staff to be against it? Do you think they could afford to do that? all I’m saying is I don’t think we know how they feel and we will never know. The coaching staff didn’t have much choice. In this new cancel culture, they don’t have a choice..

Leach would have been burned at the stake if he publicly lashed out at them for protesting, especially considering how certain people reacted to that infamous tweet he sent a few months ago.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I would just love for anyone to wait on getting all the facts before going off the protest deep end. There are plenty of actual injustices to protest, and this may well be one, but knee-jerk protests don't make any sense. In reality they are just protesting the idea that something protest worthy might have happened. The Little Boy That Cried Wolf syndrome is pretty close to kicking in for me and I suspect others as well. They are literally hurting support for the cause at this point.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I bet Leach is struggling to not mentally work through his shortest path to retirement at this point. Putting up with a lot of what is going on doesn't seem to be in his DNA.

 

[Len2003]

Because they've drawn attention to the issue. That's the point of any protest. You turning your TV off is only effective at bringing attention to your issue if people gave a **** that you did. They don't.

But we see it on the news constantly. People are already aware of the issue.

 

[Len2003]

If anyone in our athletic department goes out and changes our current protocols where players are in the locker room during the national anthem, they should be fired. There is ZERO reason to change what we do now and have to manage the guaranteed drama of the kneeling debate.

The national anthem shouldn't even be played at sporting events to begin with.

 

[MSUDC11]

I bet Leach is struggling to not mentally work through his shortest path to retirement at this point. Putting up with a lot of what is going on doesn't seem to be in his DNA.

I was talking about that with a relative this summer, Leach is absolutely a Spurrier kind of coach who will do whatever he dang well feels like doing, and you absolutely can't rule out him deciding one day the next few years that he is fed up with it all and he quits two days before a game in mid-October or something like that.

 

[Mobile Bay]

I am almost certain the anthem has always been played with the players inside.

 

[ronpolk]

Everyone has to make up their own mind about supporting this team or not after what they did. However, in my opinion, choosing not to attend/watch games anymore because of this is just furthering cancel culture. They did something you don’t like, I get it. But is that worth being done with MSU?

These guys didn’t do anything illegal. They tried to make a statement, which by the way the coaches supported or at least publicly. Like I said, everyone is entitled to their opinion and certainly entitled to how they want to spend their time. But I would hope that we don’t have people stop giving money to MSU because players do something politically motivated.

 

[ezsoil]

The big difference here is that Mizzou was protesting against actual issues at Mizzou. Noboby is claiming that MSU is a racist institution at the moment. The donations and stuff may have dried up, not because there were protests, but that it looked like the university had some issues that needed to be addressed and people didn't want to be a part of the university until it was.

you mean actual made up "issues" at Missouri..and no....people got fed up with the Woke crowd and voted with their dollars....

 

[RocketDawg]

How did the riots, arson, and looting in Georgetown go last night? I guess I've missed it on the news today.

 

[ezsoil]

You guys are really going to lose your ish when the BLM jerseys hit the field.

and I'll boo the **** out of them

 

[RocketDawg]

Keeping them in the locker room so fans avoid seeing them is called sticking your head in the sand. Tell them they're suspended if they do it. Period. There are many other, valid ways of showing displeasure with society. If the players want to walk out of one practice to demonstrate their views, that's not really a problem unless it snowballs into something worse.

I don't think there's anybody who posts here, and very few if any in US society, who thinks that cops should single out blacks and murder them when arresting them. Cops have to patrol black neighborhoods more heavily simply because, statistically, more crime is committed there. Killing the offender is rarely justified, and we all know that. When it happens they should have to pay the price, and should be held to a higher standard than the average citizen because of the power vested in them. But protesting by riots, looting, and arson, and threatening a US Senator as he walks down the street, is criminal and cannot be tolerated.

 

[RocketDawg]

Why?

 

[RocketDawg]

Everyone has to make up their own mind about supporting this team or not after what they did. However, in my opinion, choosing not to attend/watch games anymore because of this is just furthering cancel culture. They did something you don’t like, I get it. But is that worth being done with MSU?

These guys didn’t do anything illegal. They tried to make a statement, which by the way the coaches supported or at least publicly. Like I said, everyone is entitled to their opinion and certainly entitled to how they want to spend their time. But I would hope that we don’t have people stop giving money to MSU because players do something politically motivated.

Skipping a practice is one thing. Kneeling for the National Anthem is another entirely. And if it's sanctioned by the university, it makes it several orders of magnitude more unacceptable.