Mitch is preparing for NIL Marathon.

Cowtown Cat

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Try to unbutton that top button on your polo… you might like it. I’m through responding to you. The old saying “you can’t argue with stupid” applies to you and everyone else on the board knows it. Have a good night.
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ImUTGagain

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Mitch is doing exactly what he should do. Early on, this could turn into a three ring circus. Best to be above all that. Go slow, figure it out, play by the rules. Would be stupid to get hung over some crazy infraction to gain a year possibly losing many more.

Lol the first opinion I've seen since Mitch talked on the subject that liked what he said. And zero surprise it's you. I don't believe some of you are real
 

ConRay9

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I can’t deny the success the athletics program as a whole has enjoyed the last 15 years. University of Kentucky is one of the premier athletics programs in the nation. Barnhart has played an important role in that fact. Ultimately, is that maybe what’s the deciding factor here?

His connection to the fans, however, is horrendous. He is stubborn, overly conservative, and dismissive. It is absolute ******** how dismissive he can be. I don’t connect with him. I know this is not an uncommon feeling in some shape or form. It is a strange dichotomy.
 

kybassfan

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Lol the first opinion I've seen since Mitch talked on the subject that liked what he said. And zero surprise it's you. I don't believe some of you are real
Well, you know, some people believe change in one aspect of a system affects other parts of the system, sometimes in unpredictable ways. Others are pretty much clueless.
 
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kybassfan

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I can’t deny the success the athletics program as a whole has enjoyed the last 15 years. University of Kentucky is one of the premier athletics programs in the nation. Barnhart has played an important role in that fact. Ultimately, is that maybe what’s the deciding factor here?

His connection to the fans, however, is horrendous. He is stubborn, overly conservative, and dismissive. It is absolute ******** how dismissive he can be. I don’t connect with him. I know this is not an uncommon feeling in some shape or form.
And this matters why?
 

ConRay9

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And this matters why?
Because it is a discussion about the most influential man in our athletics program, and I’m expressing concern about his future? Not sure where the confusion is here.

I’m not confident Barnhart is the right man in this new world of college athletics. Please, point me in the direction where this concern is better expressed.
 

kybassfan

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Because it is a discussion about the most influential man in our athletics program, and I’m expressing concern about his future? Not sure where the confusion is here.

I’m not confident Barnhart is the right man in this new world of college athletics. Please, point me in the direction where this concern is better expressed.
And I am saying Barnhart bosses are thrilled with him. I doubt they will ask you. You proceed from a false assumption. You think his comment was make in a vacuum? I doubt he spoke without being aligned with his management.
 
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I’d say this whole NIL is up in the air considering the Supreme Court just gave a scathing review of the NCAA. I could see the NCAA ruling a player ineligible only to have another challenge at the Supreme Court. Not sure why any AD would put too many restrictions in right now when the Supreme Court is making it most likely open season. Will be interesting to see if MB puts out any restrictions…
 

BigBlueFanGA

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I’d say this whole NIL is up in the air considering the Supreme Court just gave a scathing review of the NCAA. I could see the NCAA ruling a player ineligible only to have another challenge at the Supreme Court. Not sure why any AD would put too many restrictions in right now when the Supreme Court is making it most likely open season. Will be interesting to see if MB puts out any restrictions…
Ineligible based on what and what restrictions are you referring to?
 

ImUTGagain

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Ok but what does that mean and how is Mitch not being proactive?

Chin said recently Cal spends 14 hrs a day thinking about NIL. 14 maybe the wrong amount but something like that. Basing on what Mitch said and how he said it does it seem he's spending much time if any on NIL. Similar thing have been said about Stoops and how he's looking into everything dealing with NIL. Our two coaches look/seem proactive. You can see the differences

Cal and Stoops seem to embrace how much of a weapon this NIL will be, especially at UK. Mitch is acting like Mitch. Timid. Exactly how I was afraid he would act
 

StubbornPenny

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Mitch has done a lot of good things of UK Athletics on the whole, but on the other side he's made some atrocious hires, and doesn't relate well to fans.

The entire situation now is "hey, this will be a free for all for a year with no penalties whatsoever, just go out there and find out what works and what doesn't." You HAVE To take advantage of that. It's a removable offense if you don't.

It's like if the candy store proclaimed FREE CANDY LITERALLY TAKE AS MUCH AS YOU WANT, IT'S UNLIMITED AND WE WILL NEVER RUN OUT, EVERY SINGLE PERSON CAN HAVE ALL THE CANDY THEY WILL EVER NEED and your mom only allowed you to take one Snickers because she personally felt that was fair for everyone. It' stupid and based on nothing but personal belief, and that does not cut it when we're talking a big program like this. Same with the alcohol issue - everyone wants it except Reverend Mitch.

Embrace NIL aggressively or die.
 
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Ineligible based on what and what restrictions are you referring to?


If the NCAA puts some kind of restrictions on how much players can make. Like you can’t make say over $100,000 or ineligible. The Supreme Court could come back and say they can make unlimited so who knows…
 
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And I am saying Barnhart bosses are thrilled with him. I doubt they will ask you. You proceed from a false assumption. You think his comment was make in a vacuum? I doubt he spoke without being aligned with his management.
Yeah, his bosses are thrilled with him. So some of the stupid stuff he has done they are OK with. Good to know that 'the bosses' concern for CERTAIN programs align with Barnhart, so that makes it right and perfect for the sports program as a whole. Right, we get it.
 
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I’d say this whole NIL is up in the air considering the Supreme Court just gave a scathing review of the NCAA. I could see the NCAA ruling a player ineligible only to have another challenge at the Supreme Court. Not sure why any AD would put too many restrictions in right now when the Supreme Court is making it most likely open season. Will be interesting to see if MB puts out any restrictions…

Nah. That ruling was plenty clear. Based on the abrupt about face, its clear the ncaa finally understands it lost.

The final bit of control will be to try and preserve the schools' priority in choosing endorsements. That's their final stand and that's still a losing argument imo
 

Panthur

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Everyone seems to know something that he had done to hinder this. So what is it? What has Mitch done that isn't "with the new way" or embracing change?? Surly people aren't complaining blindly without a reason.

His basketball coach is out front of this leading the charge so he sure hasn't hurt him, or held him back. I haven't read enough on Stoops approach to comment on it but I haven't read of any restrictions.
Mitch took a decades-old logo and turned it into 2 birds screwing. The knock on him has never been that he doesn’t embrace change. What he does do is zig hard whenever he should zag. And that’s what he’s doing here. The man has no AD instincts at all. Even Cal is only “his basketball coach” because other people twisted his arm after he blew off looking at Cal the first time.
 

kybassfan

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Yeah, his bosses are thrilled with him. So some of the stupid stuff he has done they are OK with. Good to know that 'the bosses' concern for CERTAIN programs align with Barnhart, so that makes it right and perfect for the sports program as a whole. Right, we get it.

Whine all you want. He ain't going no where.
 

BigBlueFanGA

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If the NCAA puts some kind of restrictions on how much players can make. Like you can’t make say over $100,000 or ineligible. The Supreme Court could come back and say they can make unlimited so who knows…
Makes no sense since they have already said they are deferring to state law. They have almost no control over money now. If state law allows for recruiting incentives, they can't even control that. I dont think you'll ever see a player ruled ineligible over money again.
 
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BigBlueFanGA

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Chin said recently Cal spends 14 hrs a day thinking about NIL. 14 maybe the wrong amount but something like that. Basing on what Mitch said and how he said it does it seem he's spending much time if any on NIL. Similar thing have been said about Stoops and how he's looking into everything dealing with NIL. Our two coaches look/seem proactive. You can see the differences

Cal and Stoops seem to embrace how much of a weapon this NIL will be, especially at UK. Mitch is acting like Mitch. Timid. Exactly how I was afraid he would act
From what I read Mitch is doing the right thing. He's the overall manager of a department with 100's of employees and dozens on sports teams. He has assigned a point person for NIL. Our head coaches shouldn't be spending large blocks of time on it either. I have no idea what else you think Mitch should be doing. At any rate, he has not demonstrated any effort to impede NIL. NIL will be controlled by players and agents. Schools and coaches should worry about their primary responsibilities, building teams and preparing them to win as well as making sure the department runs smoothly and within both NCAA and state/federal laws. NIL will take care of itself.
 

bthaunert

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From what I read Mitch is doing the right thing. He's the overall manager of a department with 100's of employees and dozens on sports teams. He has assigned a point person for NIL. Our head coaches shouldn't be spending large blocks of time on it either. I have no idea what else you think Mitch should be doing. At any rate, he has not demonstrated any effort to impede NIL. NIL will be controlled by players and agents. Schools and coaches should worry about their primary responsibilities, building teams and preparing them to win as well as making sure the department runs smoothly and within both NCAA and state/federal laws. NIL will take care of itself.
I genuinely believe Cal and Stoops are spending so much time with it because they know this isn’t Mitch’s strength. Coach’s are foaming at the mouth because this starts on Thursday. I have no doubt Mitch is not impeding it (legally, he can’t), but I also think he’s taking the slow, conservative approach. While that is a good approach with some things, I also think this is one of those times that you can’t be lagging. With that said, I’m not worried at all that we will be on top of it. We have great leaders as coaches who have their athletes as their #1 priority and we have a great compliance office.
 
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BigBlueFanGA

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I genuinely believe Cal and Stoops are spending so much time with it because they know this isn’t Mitch’s strength. Coach’s are foaming at the mouth because this starts on Thursday. I have no doubt Mitch is not impeding it (legally, he can’t), but I also think he’s taking the slow, conservative approach. While that is a good approach with some things, I also think this is one of those times that you can’t be lagging. With that said, I’m not worried at all that we will be on top of it. We have great leaders as coaches who have their athletes as their #1 priority and we have a great compliance office.
I guess I dont understand what coaches or administrators can actually do.
 

JohnBlue

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Mitch took a decades-old logo and turned it into 2 birds screwing. The knock on him has never been that he doesn’t embrace change. What he does do is zig hard whenever he should zag. And that’s what he’s doing here. The man has no AD instincts at all. Even Cal is only “his basketball coach” because other people twisted his arm after he blew off looking at Cal the first time.

The logo was designed by Nike iirc.

He has his faults and has even made some major mistakes but he's still here and now is considered the most successful AD UK has ever had and it's not close.

As much as it would be something Mitch might be capable of he was never against Cal and wanted him the first time. It was the schools president Dr. Lee Todd who blocked it the first time and I think Mitch changed his mind that allowed it to happen the second go around.
 
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