Mickey
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Indiana is 3-0. They have a good QB transfer from Missouri (Connor Bazelak). So, even that game might be a toss-up at this point. I don’t see more than a total of 3 wins this season for an identical record like last year 3-9.
How many wins does he need? Probably impossible to win enough to please some Husker fans. Not sure on who was talking on the radio, but I think it was Johnny Rodgers who said a going to a bowl game and George Darlington said seven wins (total). Personally, I don't think it's realistic to expect him to win five or six games at this point. Our three easiest games are behind us.
Regardless, he should be a candidate and get an interview. I say not so much wins and losses, but improved play, bring the team from lazy & poor effort up to playing hard to every whistle. To do that, some players will have to be benched and never return. But so be it.
Regardless, he should be a candidate and get an interview. I say not so much wins and losses, but improved play, bring the team from lazy & poor effort up to playing hard to every whistle. To do that, some players will have to be benched and never return. But so be it.
Based on the list of supposed coaching targets, I'm becoming more in favor of giving the reins to Mickey as long as he can surround himself with the right staff. I'm so underwhelmed by the list of target coaches and at least we know Mickey is a great recruiter.
Also don't forget his brother Vance was a Broncos head coach and could potentially be brought onto the staff.
I can’t disagree. Outside of a guy like Urban or Leipold or maybe Aranda or maybe Rhule. Everyone else I’d have huge question marks.
I like Mickey, but we have to get to a bowl game in order to offer. There are at least five games that were considered toss up to begin the season. That’s what should be the goal. What does Mickey or his current staff feel it should be?
Don’t forget his cousin Terry Joesph. Excellent recruiter and coach down @ UT. Coached @ NU for a second
Fix the problems in the secondary, you will fix a lot of the problems on the D.
I think Campbell is an 8-5 kinda guy. Not that is necessarily bad by itself, I just think he has a ceiling.
Our front 7 is an issue...The back end isn't great but the front 7 is abysmal. Outside of going to a 4 man front and moving them on every play, I don't know how one fixes it.
It's going to take some creativity without completely overhauling the defense. It can be done but it will be tough in a short amount of time.
Then you have a guy calling defense that has never done it before at this level...I think. That will be a challenge in itself.
I believe that Vance wants another shot as an NFL head coach. I doubt that he would leave his current position with the Cardinals to take a coordinator position with a college team. But I guess you never know.
I would be in favor of something like that, if we can’t get the sure fire home run. But keep it smart. Trev can tell Mickey, here’s your dream shot so make the most of it by hiring the best guys out there. And as such we have to give you a 3 year deal only that will certainly be extended if things go well.
If Mickey thinks he can turn it around he’d take that deal
Aranda has only been a HC for two years, followed a successful coach and won with his players. Baylor also really turned around under him, when he hired Grimes as OC. Can he win without him if Grimes doesn’t come as OC? Campbell had a big turnaround at ISU, but has sustained it longer and didn’t follow a winner.
I like Aranada and he might have a higher ceiling and might be a better fit at Nebraska, than Campbell, especially being a defensive guru. But he does have some questionmarks.
Fact of the matter is, most of these guys have ceilings and most likely none of them include OSU or Bama level of sustained success except Urb.
Problem with Urb is, you'll pay out the nose for him, you'll probably get him for 3 years, you'll have a bowl season, a 9-10 win type of season, and then probably a really good season with a playoff type of run, and then he'll bounce. People are already spouting about, he'll fix the culture, he'll bring us back to relevance, he'll just hand it off. You don't just hand off that level of sustained success. He hasn't done it, and very few schools in the history of CFB have done it when replacing a once in a generation type of coach.
I don't want Campbell but he'd stay awhile. Fickell was abysmal at OSU but is thriving at a smaller school, and doesn't even appear on our AD's radar. O'Brien isn't sexy but probably would get us back to respectable, but I think he'd bounce in a few years for the NFL if given the chance. I also don't want him. (I'm not super enamored with any of the supposed front runners).
I agree with dingle, of the names mentioned I think Leipold ticks the most boxes. He's a known program builder, has NU ties, coaches in the midwest, and has a track record of winning whereever he goes. He also isn't like to be a build and bounce guy. Whether he can perform at a school like NU remains to be seen, but that's not uncommon to any of the candidates basically.
Problem with Urb is, you'll pay out the nose for him, you'll probably get him for 3 years, you'll have a bowl season, a 9-10 win type of season, and then probably a really good season with a playoff type of run, and then he'll bounce. People are already spouting about, he'll fix the culture, he'll bring us back to relevance, he'll just hand it off. You don't just hand off that level of sustained success. He hasn't done it, and very few schools in the history of CFB have done it when replacing a once in a generation type of coach.
I don't want Campbell but he'd stay awhile. Fickell was abysmal at OSU but is thriving at a smaller school, and doesn't even appear on our AD's radar. O'Brien isn't sexy but probably would get us back to respectable, but I think he'd bounce in a few years for the NFL if given the chance. I also don't want him. (I'm not super enamored with any of the supposed front runners).
I agree with dingle, of the names mentioned I think Leipold ticks the most boxes. He's a known program builder, has NU ties, coaches in the midwest, and has a track record of winning whereever he goes. He also isn't like to be a build and bounce guy. Whether he can perform at a school like NU remains to be seen, but that's not uncommon to any of the candidates basically.
I dream of the day we have a coach that someone wants to poach…
dgaf personally if Urb bounces after making a playoff run here… it would be worth it for sure
I don't think Trev's up for it. Besides whatever ethical misgivings there might be, Trev came from sort of the ultimate tree of loyalty and stability in a football program being a Tom Osborne acolyte. With the future of Nebraska football hanging in the balance, I don't think he's going to go with the approach of hiring Urb for 3 or 4 years, seeing what that gets him, and then back to the coaching carousel.
I think he's going to go for long term sustainable success, and adjust fire from there. You know, the TO way.
I don't know a lot about Campbell, but saw a picture of the guy, and to be honest, he's pretty retarded looking. I mean not re re per se, but he reminds me of a buddy of mine that in a 9 month period, bought a used pickup truck, put a thousand dollar stereo system into it, then trades it in for another used pickup, replaces the tires with high end super nice tires, then trades that truck back in.. that's the kind of retarded vibe I get from Campbell
I’m not saying Campbell is the guy but after a build a perennial 8-9 win coach will bank Trev a lot of paychecks. You win 8 or 9 and we will conjure up all kind of scenarios about how next year is the year. Rinse and repeat and before you know it that coach has been here a decade plus. Hell people did that with 3-5 win coach.
Yah Campbell's the super safe hire. He's a palatable Bo Pelini that you can shuffle coordinators in and out for a good long time until "it happens". Trev would probably die in office.
We had a coach who won 9 or more games every year he was here. His name is Bo Pelini. He didn't last a decade despite winning at least 9 games a year.
Pelini lasted 7 years and was fired in part for behavioral issues .. at the time of his hire we were 4 years removed from consistent winning and a 10 win season
We are now a decade removed from our last 10 win season and will have had losing seasons 7 of the last 8 years. The new coach will get 2-3 years to build then 7 years of averaging 8-9 wins plus a year or 2 tacked on for good behavior gets you to a decade … trev might even survive to get a 2nd hire
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really it might not take much to fix the defense...watching the middle of the feild it looks like there just 1 db ussually...the rest must be taking a coffee break...so we just need to get the 10 other guys on the feild
campbell seems to get isu playing great, till they become the focus..then they lose a bit..till folks stop focusing on them...now at NU, could he get better recruits and hit higher highs now and then?
I would not be mad with a campbell hire..he's shown consistency..ku's coach hasen't been in a p5 long enough to gauge him...
the thing about a ku's coach or campbell is they could probably transfer to Nebraska alot quicker, being in the area..and recruiting it etc. I could see either of them coaches coming in and players adapting quick
I'll probably get chewed out by swing for the fences NU fan who wants us beating bama in 1 1/2 years...
(took dr. tom 20 years for a NC and he inherited a program hiting on all cylinders)
we need to beat the minn, wis, iowa's first...
but realistically campbell would'nt be bad...I'd say try arnada first though...
baylor plays isu this week, should be interesting
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Busch needs to scrap Chins schemes. Hopefully we come out in something logical that Indiana hasn’t prepared for.
You can slap on whatever scheme you want. If players don’t line up the right way, make the right reads, take the right angles, put in 100% effort and tackle correctly, it is hopeless. The biggest adjustment that can made the next 2 weeks is between the ears.