What makes Mickey an enticing hire for either program? Seriously I can't think of hearing any real buzz about him getting a high end job offer. Maybe a Mac job. Seriously why is he seen as such a hot commodity right now?
Mickey to ASU?
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If Mickey wants to be an HC, he should go for it. Selfishly I would love for him to be here as our WR coach, because he is a proven commodity in that role, one of the absolute best. But Nebraska is a tough gig, for a first-time HC and ASU is a potential dumpster fire. I think Mickey could just kill it at a Sun Belt type school, near his recruiting grounds, but who knows if that is what he wants, he might not want to step down from big-time P5 football.
Man how awful would it be if Mickey got the CU job and pounded us next year after we went with Matt Campbell. Yikes...
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Can you remind the class where TO got his first HC job?
What about Solich? Pelini?
Three of the four most successful coaches in Nebraska Football history had zero HC experience prior to taking over here
having never been a HC is such a small-minded reason to pass on a transcendent talent like Mickey
don’t be such battered housewives after what frost did to you and wake the f up
“Trust the staff”
anything you say after your stance on Flores goes straight into the trash, “Nebraska Fan”
I don't think not having been head coach is a deal breaker, but almost all HC have had at least coordinator experience previously.
TO was a coordinator before HC, as was Pelini and Solich.
As far as I know, Dabo is the only current active HC (not interim) that had no previous coordinator experience.
Does that matter, idk? Just looking at the way things are.
I’m not surprised someone like you can’t see it with Mickey and still thinks it’s a-okay to let the best quarterback in 25 years leave the state
those are both symptoms of the same infliction
“trust the staff” RollingLaugh
hard to put into words how sad of a post that truly was
I get that there are alot of very successful coaches that rise through the ranks and move from Coordinator to P5 HC and have alot of success. But Mickey is moving from a position coach and is staring down the barrel of a 2-7 record as interim. I was really pulling for Mickey and I thought he might get us to 6-6 and stake his claim to the job. But do you think he can/should/would get hired if he goes 2-7?
I think he should be hired right this second
Judging the w/l record now - when it’s as meaningless as it literally gets - after slurping frost for being close sure is cute
Mickey is the highest upside coach we could possibly hire
If Trev is going to hire him, he needs to do it now. As a bunch more loses seem imminent if CT is out. And while we all know Mickey has been delt a tough hand, the optics of hiring a 2-7 coach are not good.
The optics of hiring a man of utmost honor, who gave his body to Nebraska, is regarded as one of the best recruiters in the country and already had a chance to evaluate his roster are fantastic
don’t get mired in the meaningless. I know it’s hard after what dickhead frost did.
a new broom sweeps clean, and there ain’t a better model on the market than Mickey
Since Mickey's forte is recruiting, I took a brief look at the other good recruiting Head Coach NU had and that was Callahan from '04-'07.
I didn't include the entire freshman class he signed, only those who we all remember and who were strong contributors to the football team. Reminder, these were all incoming freshmen.
'04
Joe Ganz
Todd Peterson
Grixby
Brandon Jackson
T. Steinkuhler
Lyndon Murtha
Nunn
Nate Swift
'05
Marlon Lucky
Matt O'Hanlon
Phillip Dillard
Matt Slauson
N. Suh
Nate Potter
Barry Turner
'06
Ricky Thenarse
McNeill
Hickman
'07
Roy Helu
Castille
Prince A.
Niles Paul
Erik Hagg
Alec Henery
Jared Crick
Just in Callahan's first 2 freshmen recruiting classes, just look at that nucleus for a football team.
In '07, he followed up with several kids who became great players at NU.
Callahan could really recruit. So can Mickey.
This team will get pounded and it's not Joseph's fault he was handed a bad team especially on the OL and there is not a coach alive that could revive that group. Mickey Joseph will do well at some school and I would hope he gets a chance at Nebraska.
Lets face it, the entire staff you see now at Nebraska will not be the same staff next year and the OL is not the OL you will see next year. People need to understand this team has a very small chance of getting another win this year and it's not the head coaches fault, a stink burger is a stink burger and you can only hide the smell so much.
There is a vast vast difference between being a good position coach and recruiter and being the head coach of a program. This has been proven time and time again. I just don’t get, other than sentimental feelings for the old days, why so many people are hell bent on turning a program that is in such desperate need of getting it right with this hire over to someone with no coordinator let alone head coaching experience. I know it worked with Swinney but in general if you look at the guys over the last 30 years who won national titles the overwhelming majority were head coaches or at the very least offensive or defensive coordinators elsewhere.
The ASU interim has beaten a ranked Washington team and has played ranked Utah and USC to as close or closer games than we have played ranked Illinois and OU despite Utah and USC being better teams
we should probably give him a closer look
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Nebraska, Arizona State, Georgia Tech, Auburn, Charlotte, Wisconsin, and Colorado have all fired head coaches this year. And possibly more to come.
All were either previous OC/DC or Head Coaches at previous stops.
Even previous experience in those positions was not a guarantee any of these guys get the job done.
There are no guarantees.
i have no clue why many are so hellbent on hiring a losing coach with a track record of losing (KU, ksu, isu, Baylor coaches have never won **** after a combined century of trying) and thinking that is “getting it right”
give me a break
I like Mickey as a person, a WR coach and as a fantastic recruiter. I don't think though he's shown enough to be the next head coach on a permanent basis and yes it's way past time for Nebraska to be taking chances.
Now I obviously don't know whether there's any serious consideration on the part of ASU but just remember to take any rumors with a huge grain of salt. Saavy agents know they can enhance the bargaining power and salaries of their clients by planting a few rumors. Media pundits looking to drive clicks are only too happy to be complicit by spreading rumors.
This technique was perfected and mastered by Kirk Ferentz and used for years to drive up his salary at Iowa. Iowa was scared shitless that Ferentz would leave them to go to the pros and always threw money at him.
Now I obviously don't know whether there's any serious consideration on the part of ASU but just remember to take any rumors with a huge grain of salt. Saavy agents know they can enhance the bargaining power and salaries of their clients by planting a few rumors. Media pundits looking to drive clicks are only too happy to be complicit by spreading rumors.
This technique was perfected and mastered by Kirk Ferentz and used for years to drive up his salary at Iowa. Iowa was scared shitless that Ferentz would leave them to go to the pros and always threw money at him.
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