Mickey Is Our Coach
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as far as this game and his candidacy are concerned, everything that happened after the CT injury is irrelevant. we were up 9-6 and driving.
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Hey potato head. 4 turnovers caused that score. The d played well enough to win. When you got a QB who has no arm, WTH do you expect?
So ridiculous people think a new coach can change a team in a few weeks. Habits and discipline take years to build. Not weeks. And using this game to seal MJ’s fate…it’s not his fault there isn’t a serviceable back up qb. It’s an impossible position, anyone suggesting otherwise isn’t living in reality
I know and to see the amount of nonfootball minds in this thread is astounding! So many just dont get it!
I agree with this but also thinking MJ is going to get the full time job is fantasy
This is probably the most factual statement made on the board in a month. Highly unlikely MJ was ever going to get this job.
I don’t expect him to get the job either. Never did. But those using today as what will eliminate him is resoundingly stupid. He’s done a good job with what he was given. Doesn’t mean he’ll get the job. But reading on here how he’s terrible and clueless based on the fact there isn’t a good back up qb is so ridiculous.
look, I get it. People get upset when we lose. But the complete disconnect from reality people have is shocking at times
I get it. I get that Nebraska football is bigger than any one person and we are as deep in a hole than we have ever been. Now is the time to hire a proven winner. Now is not the time to gamble on a hunch about some guy you have feelings for.
Honestly keep Mickey, Bill, and Applewhite and blow the rest of this staff up. Year 0 is next year.
Habits and discipline is the first thing that can be fixed. It sure as hell shouldn't take years to do it. And MJ was never guaranteed a fair shot or even any shot at the head coaching spot. It doesn't matter if it isn't his fault.
You really think they wouldn’t play the qb they thought would give them the best chance to win? Or maybe, maybe they’ve seen those guys and they’re aren’t as good as what we saw today?
lol Bielema just played conservative the 2nd half and punted away, because he knew our offense couldn't do anything.
Nobody is blaming Mickey for the lack of talent/depth. But he's not going to get the permanent job by producing similar or worse results than Frost. That's just reality.
Mickey is definitely not the coach and the people pushing for it are idiots. He has not done well as the interim coach and even if he had, it is time for Nebraska to go spend money and get a great proven winner. We are about to have our 6th straight losing season. No experiments or emotional hires. Get the best coach you can possibly get and get this thing turned around.
Yeah Mickey hasn't done any better than Frost. Our wins with Mickey were a 1 pt win against Rutgers and a home win against Indiana that was close in the 4th quarter. It is laughable that we should sacrifice more time with an experiment. Glad Trev isn't as stupid as some of the people that post on here.
I'm questioning whips lack of identifying 2 guys many of us are as more than capable. I've been saying this about Maskers for years and so has @dinglefritz
I haven’t seen one coach available or potentially available, that has coached in or won a national championship! so Yeah, let’s just settle on____________ fill in the blank. at least we have a good proven recruiter in Mickey. I can only imagine who he would get as DC, with his brothers ties and his SEC ties. Everyone is assuming he keeps most of this lame duck staff if hired. The names he would bring in would be mind boggling. Guaranteed top 10 recruiting classes every year, passion for winning, and players love him. Yeah let’s just pass on Mickey and pick up some lame duck, has been, like Bill O’Brien ( who was run out of Houston cause players hated him) etc. or another guy who is having one good season etc. I’d take my chances with Mickey!! Can only imagine the 5 stars in Lincoln after our new facilities are built. Nah let’s pass and get the Div 2 guy currently at Kansas, I’m sure he’ll bring in 5 stars lol.
Everything you have stated about Mickey is headcanon. There is no guarantee that he will have top 10 recruiting classes every year. There is no guarantee that he will assemble a great coaching staff. He's a great position coach that can recruit, he's proven that. The other coaches you are dismissing, have done something as a HC.
Are there any GUARANTEES with anybody? Yeah let’s settle on a coach that’s ” done something”
Why do people think that great assistants are going to come here to work for Mickey Joseph? You think up-and-coming assistants are going to leave good SEC programs to come work for an unproven head coach?
As far as recruiting, NIL and the transfer portal has changed everything. Any coach should be able to bring in talent here with the amount of NIL money we have. Even Frost and Riley were able to bring in Top 25 recruiting classes every year, and that was before NIL. O'Brien has Alabama and the NFL on his resume, I'm sure he'd do just fine on the recruiting trail with NIL money.
The problem here has been player development, and strength and conditioning. Illinois' last 4 recruiting classes were ranked 41st, 71st, 90th, and 73rd nationally. Yet they kicked our *** and our ranked in the Top 20. That's coaching and development.
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I guess, let’s just get someone like Bielema and settle for 7-9 wins every 3 or 4 years. At least it’s better then where we are. You convinced me, let’s just get back to being above average and NEVER compete at a national championship level. Every coach I’ve seen mentioned is all we will get with them. Lets become the new Iowa!!
>Trev: So you've proven nothing?
>MJ: Correct
>Trev: You're hired
Jeez I wouldn't want to settle for a coach that has proven he can build a program.
You are aware that Bielema has won 3 Big Ten championships and regularly won 10+ games at Wisconsin?
Yet you think Mickey Joseph, who has never even been a coordinator and spent most of his career at the FCS and NAIA levels, has a better chance to bring the program back to a championship level?
Somebody make it make sense.
Yep. I didn't think people could be more delusional than defending Frost after 3-9, 1-8, but now we have people saying Mickey should be the coach after getting blown out at home twice to a mediocre OU team and an Illinois team we should have more talent than.
Thank God Trev doesn't have this ridiculous logic. Sorry dude, a 17 pt loss at home is a huge strike against Joseph. To be fair, Joseph isn't a candidate for the full time position. Alberts knows he has to spend money and get the best of the best. If he hires an experiment, he will be out of a job in a few years.
Joseph isn't judged just for all the losses that are piling up under his watch, he is judged for that and everything he has done in his career before this year.
The very obvious verdict is his resume isn't close to what is desired to be the HC at Nebraska.
Bielema took over a program that hadn't had a winning season since 2011 and hasn't won 9 games since 2007. Currently in year 2 he has them at 7-1. At Wisconsin he won at least 10 games four out of his seven years. Bielema would have been an awesome hire! Guaranteed he would own the West if he was coaching the Huskers.
Joseph has proven nothing. Currently he has a losing record as an interim coach and as an associate head coach he oversaw Orgeron getting fired from LSU after they had a losing record the 2 years he was in that position and Frost getting fired from Nebraska. He has never been a coordinator. Promoting Joseph to full time HC would be a massive risk and a likely disaster.
Well let's look at it from this perspective.
Gundy looked awesome up until today and guess what they got taken behind the wood shed by KState with backup QB.
Tell us who has everything rockin that would be a perfect fit at Nebraska?
I have always loved Aranda yet look he is losing also.
Rhule has never beaten a top 20 team Campbell beat Iowa for the first time in his career and that was just barely
Bob is okay maybe won't stay long term the guy from Kansas is losing every week now
So who is going to be better.
We need recruiting and development
Yep. Joseph would be a colossal risk. Has there been a coach that has accomplished so little that has gotten such a big time job?
Gundy isn't coming to Nebraska, but has had sustained success for over a decade at Okie State. Aranda won a natty as the DC and was great at LSU then won a Big 12 title at Baylor as the HC. Rhule had success at Temple and Baylor. Leipold has Kansas a game away from a bowl and had great success coaching D3 in Wisconsin and at Buffalo.
All of these guys have resumes far more impressive than Joseph. Joseph would be questionable at a G5 job. If Nebraska hires him, it shows we don't really care about winning and that we don't have much money to pay.