Michael Avenatti Interview

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rick64

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I'd love to see the holier than thou Duke and Ratface have the ncaa move in to their admissions office. But Avenatti is not exactly the most reputable guy.
 
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Yeah but, he said the same thing about Kavanaugh, Daniels, etc.. And we know now it was all lies. Hard to know where the BS stops and truth starts with this guy. I want to believe him...oh, how I want to. But, because of his record I just can't get there. Yet.
As you say morgousky, "just deliver".
We all know Adidas had the goods on Zion! The judge just wouldn’t let it to be discussed!
 

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I'd love to see the holier than thou Duke and Ratface have the ncaa move in to their admissions office. But Avenatti is not exactly the most reputable guy.
Even if they’ve got the goods on them!!Does anyone think the NCAA will do anything?
 
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Lmao it worked out great for Stormy! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::joy:
 
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Yeah but, he said the same thing about Kavanaugh, Daniels, etc.. And we know now it was all lies. Hard to know where the BS stops and truth starts with this guy. I want to believe him...oh, how I want to. But, because of his record I just can't get there. Yet.

Uh, the Stormy stuff has pretty much been proven true and now it is payments didn't come from campaign funds rather than denial of a payment. If the pictures of them together and detailed descriptions didn't make you understand then no hope for you. So, given that, I think he is being factual on Nike. Yes, he is out for himself and is the typical attorney but that doesn't mean he doesn't know what others knew regarding Zion for example. I think though this all will be swept away with no serious investigation. Oh wait a minute, I just remembered Duke is investigating themselves (lol).
 

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He says he doesn’t make false claims, that he’s got proof Zion was on the take and we will all see it.

This is excellent.

I believe you Michael Avenatti. All will be forgiven. Just deliver.

The day the news of Puke has cheated becomes official, that would be the day the world as we know ceases to exist.
Planets and stars will crash into each other.
So pray it does not happen or we all burn and become charcoal.:weary:
 

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If he has such proof against Zion and Duke... I bet "Top Men" will park that so called evidence right next to the Ark of the Covenant.

The NCAA will just close their eyes and don't look at it, for fear their faces might melt off.

 
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I'm not buying it. Typically if people have actual real proof, they start with that bombshell. They don't spend weeks claiming they have proof. Plus, knowing this guy's history. There's nothing here, folks. Just a toddler screaming for attention .
 
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The info he provided so far is pretty specific. iirc his client is an ex Nike employee.

Also consider Nike had him arrested by the feds 5 days after he made the initial threat. That's moving at light speed. No way they pull those strings on a case they can easily ignore/deny.

He asked for 20 million. That tells you he knows he has the goods. Otherwise an experienced scumbag like him knows to ask for way less.

Plus Nike hasn't denied anything he said, despite more than ample opportunity.

Finally even with the trump situation - he had the dirt correct. How he used it was the problem. But he was factually correct. There was an affair and trump did pay.

Given all that, I'm fairly certain he's telling the truth.
 

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The info he provided so far is pretty specific. iirc his client is an ex Nike employee.

Also consider Nike had him arrested by the feds 5 days after he made the initial threat. That's moving at light speed. No way they pull those strings on a case they can easily ignore/deny.

He asked for 20 million. That tells you he knows he has the goods. Otherwise an experienced scumbag like him knows to ask for way less.

Plus Nike hasn't denied anything he said, despite more than ample opportunity.

Finally even with the trump situation - he had the dirt correct. How he used it was the problem. But he was factually correct. There was an affair and trump did pay.

Given all that, I'm fairly certain he's telling the truth.

Your statement that the info he’s provided thus far is “pretty specific” is not inaccurate.

His allegations against Deandre Ayton and Bol Bol are specific. His evidence to support those allegations is not specific and consists of limited pieces of circumstantial evidence. His allegations against Duke are vague and he’s provided no evidence to support them.

Your use of an “experienced scumbag” standard to evaluate whether he’s telling the truth is also bit non-sensical. But if that’s how you evaluate things, then my response to that would be that an “experienced scumbag” wouldn’t be so stupid as to explicitly describe his threat in such a way that it made it a slam dunk for prosecutors to press charges. Howvever, we know that Avenatti was in fact that stupid and his comments during his meeting with Nike sound like words you’d hear from a scumbag attorney in a poorly written movie.

He may in fact have evidence against Nike, but it’s much more likely that he’s full of hot air based on behavior to date.
 
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People want to slam the guy like he’s less trustworthy than anyone else. I mean nike? The ncaa? Duke? They are more trustworthy?

For all those who say he can’t be trusted. Your president is a dedicated liar and everyone here has no issues believing what comes out of his mouth.

For all those who haven’t followed him he has delivered documents and promises to release more.

It has nothing to do with whether he’s more or less trustworthy than someone else. It is based solely on his behavior specific to the Nike situation and it is Avenatti’s own actions that call his trustiworthiness in question. He is not behaving like someone who’s being honest. Whether or not Nike or the NCAA are more or less trustworthy is completely irrelevant.

And in terms of his release of documents, yes he has released documents. And they are extremely weak evidence and Avenatti contradicts himself in some of them.

Look, I’ll find it very entertaining if there’s something to this Duke thing, but I’m not going to hold my breath because Avenatti is acting like the type of person who has no business practing law.
 

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The info he provided so far is pretty specific. iirc his client is an ex Nike employee.

Also consider Nike had him arrested by the feds 5 days after he made the initial threat. That's moving at light speed. No way they pull those strings on a case they can easily ignore/deny.

He asked for 20 million. That tells you he knows he has the goods. Otherwise an experienced scumbag like him knows to ask for way less.

Plus Nike hasn't denied anything he said, despite more than ample opportunity.

Finally even with the trump situation - he had the dirt correct. How he used it was the problem. But he was factually correct. There was an affair and trump did pay.

Given all that, I'm fairly certain he's telling the truth.
You make some good points,I would add that choir boys and preachers make terrible informants.If you are in a position to have real dirt on anyone you have to have enough on yourself as to not attract attention.

He is looking for leverage,so it is not wise to play your trump cards(if he has them) too early in the game. The FBI may already know what he says he knows,both sides are probably trying to figure out if that is the case.
 

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It has nothing to do with whether he’s more or less trustworthy than someone else. It is based solely on his behavior specific to the Nike situation and it is Avenatti’s own actions that call his trustiworthiness in question. He is not behaving like someone who’s being honest. Whether or not Nike or the NCAA are more or less trustworthy is completely irrelevant.

And in terms of his release of documents, yes he has released documents. And they are extremely weak evidence and Avenatti contradicts himself in some of them.

Look, I’ll find it very entertaining if there’s something to this Duke thing, but I’m not going to hold my breath because Avenatti is acting like the type of person who has no business practing law.

I have no issues with duke. My argument is only on trust issues. He’s no less trustworthy than the crooks he is taking down. Some people want to go around picking and choosing who’s credible. Giving one person benefit of the doubt while slamming the other party. Not right
 

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I'm not buying it. Typically if people have actual real proof, they start with that bombshell. They don't spend weeks claiming they have proof. Plus, knowing this guy's history. There's nothing here, folks. Just a toddler screaming for attention .
Avenatti’s parents could have been born Transgender, and never copulated, and I would still know Duke “cheated” for Zion, and others. Just to clarify.
 
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Does anybody really believe Nike is innocent in all this? It is a competition. Nike does their fair share and there is little doubt they are guilty of criminal acts just like Adidas. Mr. Avenatti may be a liar and a cheat but somehow I suspect there is more than a glimmer of truth in what he says.
 
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He said Nike paid his mom for consulting services. Even told the years. That's pretty specific in my book

If you’re referring to his tweets, that’s not at all what he said. He merely stated that someone should search Nike’s vendor portal for any entries related to Zion’s mom since 2016.

First, that’s not specific at all. Specific would be to make allegations like he did for Ayton where he specified the exact dollar amounts, date of transaction, method of transferring money from Nike to end recipient,etc. He’s provided nothing of that sort for the broader allegations.

Second, his statements about Zion aren’t even true allegations. They’re insinuations. He’s merely hinting at something without saying anything specific. There are likely two reasons for this.
  1. He’s knows a large portion of the public is unable to think and can’t understand the important distinction. So he can hint at it and then people will be off and running thinking it’s an allegation.
  2. North Carolina has a very broad per se definition of libel. Any false statements that are considered libel per se are taken to be defamatory without the need to prove any actual harm. By vaguely hinting at improprieties, it affords Avenatti some extra protection against a defamation lawsuit. This is a major red flag that should give people pause before believing him.
 

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Does anybody really believe Nike is innocent in all this? It is a competition. Nike does their fair share and there is little doubt they are guilty of criminal acts just like Adidas. Mr. Avenatti may be a liar and a cheat but somehow I suspect there is more than a glimmer of truth in what he says.

I have no clue what specifically Nike may or may not be doing.

What I do know is this. Nearly 70% of power 5 schools wear Nike and Nike’s share of the basketball market is near 80%. Adidas is the little guy in this situation and trying to take share from Nike.

Given that, is it that unreasonable to assume that maybe Adidas had to resort to more extreme tactics than Nike?
 

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Hope he comes up with info soon. The longer he waits that gives Duke and Coach Ratface more time to cover their tracks and take some people out.
 

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I have no clue what specifically Nike may or may not be doing.

What I do know is this. Nearly 70% of power 5 schools wear Nike and Nike’s share of the basketball market is near 80%. Adidas is the little guy in this situation and trying to take share from Nike.

Given that, is it that unreasonable to assume that maybe Adidas had to resort to more extreme tactics than Nike?

More extreme than this?

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-mar...cial-gains-fostering-nike-ties-003436661.html
 
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If you’re referring to his tweets, that’s not at all what he said. He merely stated that someone should search Nike’s vendor portal for any entries related to Zion’s mom since 2016.

First, that’s not specific at all. Specific would be to make allegations like he did for Ayton where he specified the exact dollar amounts, date of transaction, method of transferring money from Nike to end recipient,etc. He’s provided nothing of that sort for the broader allegations.

Second, his statements about Zion aren’t even true allegations. They’re insinuations. He’s merely hinting at something without saying anything specific. There are likely two reasons for this.
  1. He’s knows a large portion of the public is unable to think and can’t understand the important distinction. So he can hint at it and then people will be off and running thinking it’s an allegation.
  2. North Carolina has a very broad per se definition of libel. Any false statements that are considered libel per se are taken to be defamatory without the need to prove any actual harm. By vaguely hinting at improprieties, it affords Avenatti some extra protection against a defamation lawsuit. This is a major red flag that should give people pause before believing him.

He had two tweets about Zion, back to back. The other one had the specifics.

Plus he had an entire Dropbox file that was only part.
 

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My guess is that he’s heard stories from the AAU coach about how it all went down. As far as actual proof that would hold up in a court of law, he has none. He was hoping that by just throwing some info at Nike about things that maybe they really did then they would believe he actually had the goods and would pay him to shut up. But I also think that Nike was a lot smarter about how they conducted their underhanded business than Adidas was. They probably put them on the payroll for the consulting jobs as Avenatti has said but it’ll be impossible to prove that they didn’t really perform services for money paid. Hell I could pay Joe Blow a cool mil for asking him where the nearest restroom is. He consulted me. That’s kinda legit. I really think Nike had these folks on the payroll as opposed to just handing out bags of cash.
How are you so positive he does not have actual proof?
 

Blueaz

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One of the best things to ever happen to Duke is this clown going after them. Saying he has zero credibility is an understatement.

I believe Duke is absolutely dirty but this guy is just not the right guy to go after them. Mark it down, he will make a jackass out of himself in this.
He is already a jackass,
Sypher was already crazy
Powell was already a *****
Canseco was already a liar and user.
But they were all still correct.
 
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Blueaz

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I'm not buying it. Typically if people have actual real proof, they start with that bombshell. They don't spend weeks claiming they have proof. Plus, knowing this guy's history. There's nothing here, folks. Just a toddler screaming for attention .
It seems likevYahoo does this EVERY time they have a “scoop”!
 

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How are you so positive he does not have actual proof?

I’m not positive. I totally said it was just my guess. But my guess again is that if he had anything at all he would at least have given a teaser by now. Maybe something that shows he’s serious but doesn’t implicate anyone. Phone records maybe or some redacted payroll stubs. Just from how hard he’s trying to get this out with the tweets and stuff leads me to believe he’s bluffing. If he had anything and was serious he woulda tweeted something a little more hardcore like a payroll stub. Something that would really get Nike’s and the media’s attention and push others to investigate. Given his reputation he has to know that’s the only way people would take him seriously.
 

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I’m not positive. I totally said it was just my guess. But my guess again is that if he had anything at all he would at least have given a teaser by now. Maybe something that shows he’s serious but doesn’t implicate anyone. Phone records maybe or some redacted payroll stubs. Just from how hard he’s trying to get this out with the tweets and stuff leads me to believe he’s bluffing. If he had anything and was serious he woulda tweeted something a little more hardcore like a payroll stub. Something that would really get Nike’s and the media’s attention and push others to investigate. Given his reputation he has to know that’s the only way people would take him seriously.
Yep just like when Peppers transcript was shown; and like when the receipt from the pawn shop was shown... that evidence was the nail in the coffi... oops, my bad
 

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Yep just like when Peppers transcript was shown; and like when the receipt from the pawn shop was shown... that evidence was the nail in the coffi... oops, my bad

What does any of that have to do with Avenatti? Or Duke? Or Zion? Or anything that’s gone on in college sports the last 10 years?