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Wildcats1st

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Wiseman allowed to play tonight. when the dust settles, will he play this year or not ?

The ncaa May rule him ineligible and Memphis plays him regardless. I wouldn t be surprised after lsu getting into the tourney last year. I mean basically that’s what happened today. That judge doesn’t have any jurisdiction over ncaa matters. Espn runs a ticker saying he is “allowed” to play Bc of a county court judge. Bs. He is ineligible and a county court judge don’t mean shat he played in spite of the ncaa ruling. The ncaa is going to find a way to cave have no teeth.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Penny's over-the-top ego is going to get him punted out of college basketball.

It all makes me laugh. Can't wait for the day when DJ Jeffries transfers after Penny is fired.

Burn Memphis...burn....burn...

 

BoulderCat_rivals187983

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The ncaa May rule him ineligible and Memphis plays him regardless. I wouldn t be surprised after lsu getting into the tourney last year. I mean basically that’s what happened today. That judge doesn’t have any jurisdiction over ncaa matters. Espn runs a ticker saying he is “allowed” to play Bc of a county court judge. Bs. He is ineligible and a county court judge don’t mean shat he played in spite of the ncaa ruling. The ncaa is going to find a way to cave have no teeth.
As I understand it when a school agrees to join the NCAA it agrees to abide by their rules. It will ultimately be their decision.
 

revcort

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Memphis is playing with fire. Not a smart move to play Wiseman tonight and they did not need him.
Yep, this is what I was thinking as well. Why risk playing him if you don't even need him to win the game? This game and the previous one will be vacated. There is no question about it in my mind. Who cares about the court order? That court has no jurisdiction over the NCAA. If the NCAA wanted to, they could go to Federal Court Monday morning and put an end to that right now. It wouldn't take long.
 

UKnCincy_rivals

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Memphis is playing with fire. Not a smart move to play Wiseman tonight and they did not need him.

Memphis didn’t file a lawsuit or seek an injunction. Wiseman did.

Wiseman’s attorney sued both the NCAA and the University of Memphis for declaring Wiseman ineligible. I’ve not read the text of the injunction itself, but the fact that Memphis is a defendant likely means that the injunction forces both the NCAA and Memphis to treat Wiseman as eligible.

I’m sure Memphis is supportive of this, but it doesn’t change the fact that technically it is Wiseman himself who is taking legal action here.
 
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Mike-D

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Memphis didn’t file a lawsuit or seek an injunction. Wiseman did.

Wiseman’s attorney sued both the NCAA and the University of Memphis for declaring Wiseman ineligible. I’ve not read the text of the injunction itself, but the fact that Memphis is a defendant likely means that the injunction forces both the NCAA and Memphis to treat Wiseman as eligible.

I’m sure Memphis is supportive of this, but it doesn’t change the fact that technically it is Wiseman himself who is taking legal action here.

Makes sense as to why Wiseman is saying he didn't know his family received $12,000 dollars. Sure he didn't. Just like Cam Newton didn't know ****. Nobody ever knows ****.
 

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Memphis didn’t file a lawsuit or seek an injunction. Wiseman did.

Wiseman’s attorney sued both the NCAA and the University of Memphis for declaring Wiseman ineligible. I’ve not read the text of the injunction itself, but the fact that Memphis is a defendant likely means that the injunction forces both the NCAA and Memphis to treat Wiseman as eligible.

I’m sure Memphis is supportive of this, but it doesn’t change the fact that technically it is Wiseman himself who is taking legal action here.
So Wisemans family didn’t have money to move from Nashville to Memphis. But, now they have the money to file an order 45 mins after being ruled ineligible. Seems fishy.
 

keefsopeng

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Penny, thought it was legal. After all Pete Bell got his mom a new house and job when he went to Western.
 
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I don't know why but over the years with all the stuff that's happened down there they almost make Louisville look like Duke in comparison (until recently haha).
 

John Henry

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Memphis didn’t file a lawsuit or seek an injunction. Wiseman did.

Wiseman’s attorney sued both the NCAA and the University of Memphis for declaring Wiseman ineligible. I’ve not read the text of the injunction itself, but the fact that Memphis is a defendant likely means that the injunction forces both the NCAA and Memphis to treat Wiseman as eligible.

I’m sure Memphis is supportive of this, but it doesn’t change the fact that technically it is Wiseman himself who is taking legal action here.
What does that have to do with Memphis playing Wiseman? The coach could have kept him out of the game. Do you think the NCAA is going to look at who filed the suit when they declared a player ineligible. Memphis can not be sued to play anybody, that is the coaches decision . Not smart.
 

John Henry

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Yep, this is what I was thinking as well. Why risk playing him if you don't even need him to win the game? This game and the previous one will be vacated. There is no question about it in my mind. Who cares about the court order? That court has no jurisdiction over the NCAA. If the NCAA wanted to, they could go to Federal Court Monday morning and put an end to that right now. It wouldn't take long.
Exactly. Some judges think they make the laws and regulations for private organizations. The NCAA does not answer to judges when they decide eligibility. If it was that easy Enes Kanter would have played for UK. Just fine a pro UK judge in Fayette County and go with it.

Memphis screwed up on this.
 

TBCat

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Yep, this is what I was thinking as well. Why risk playing him if you don't even need him to win the game? This game and the previous one will be vacated. There is no question about it in my mind. Who cares about the court order? That court has no jurisdiction over the NCAA. If the NCAA wanted to, they could go to Federal Court Monday morning and put an end to that right now. It wouldn't take long.
Ok so the question now is do we have an actual violation by Memphis instead of just against Wiseman. We know what he did but if you ask me Memphis knowingly ignored and NCAA ruling and played an ineligible player. Can there be additional sanctions against them beyond just ruling Wiseman ineligible?
 

Cats_2010

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Memphis didn’t file a lawsuit or seek an injunction. Wiseman did.

Wiseman’s attorney sued both the NCAA and the University of Memphis for declaring Wiseman ineligible. I’ve not read the text of the injunction itself, but the fact that Memphis is a defendant likely means that the injunction forces both the NCAA and Memphis to treat Wiseman as eligible.

I’m sure Memphis is supportive of this, but it doesn’t change the fact that technically it is Wiseman himself who is taking legal action here.

Still Menphis’ decision to allow him to play in a game knowing he is likely ineligible. Doesn’t matter who is taking the legal action. Memphis Compliance officer has the final say on whether or not he is allowed to participate.
 

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Probably a good chance Wiseman would have eventually been able to played this year, if he’d just sat out this game or a few upcoming games until Memphis and NCAA comes to some decision. But to just throw the FU NCAA he’s playing (which they didn’t need James to win) probably wasn’t the smartest thing to do.
 

Mike-D

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Probably a good chance Wiseman would have eventually been able to played this year, if he’d just sat out this game or a few upcoming games until Memphis and NCAA comes to some decision. But to just throw the FU NCAA he’s playing (which they didn’t need James to win) probably wasn’t the smartest thing to do.

The NCAA already came to a decision. The kid is ineligible. The kid got a lawyer. Memphis said they are going to keep playing him. So the NCAA can either stand by their word, or we can all just cancel the NCAA and play by our own rules at this point.
 

C*A*T*S

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The NCAA already came to a decision. The kid is ineligible. The kid got a lawyer. Memphis said they are going to keep playing him. So the NCAA can either stand by their word, or we can all just cancel the NCAA and play by our own rules at this point.

I was under the impression that UM and NCAA were in works to get him eligible, but Wiseman took it to a judge to decide so he could just play. And since UM’s decision not to hold Wiseman out screws the pooch with NCAA...
 

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I was under the impression that UM and NCAA were in works to get him eligible, but Wiseman took it to a judge to decide so he could just play. And since UM’s decision not to hold Wiseman out screws the pooch with NCAA...

UM didn’t have to play him