I think that IF Purdy ever plays he’ll be a serviceable backup. Our QB coaching and play calling didn’t fit his strengths.
Meaningful Jeff Sims Highlights
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When he’s healthy He has a similar arm to his brother. It can work with the right coaching and play calling. He’s a smart athletic guy who I think can make good decisions in the right system. Hopefully though we only get to see our backup QBs in mop up duty this fall.
No he doesn’t. We’ve been over this. I’ve shown you him compared to his brother statistically in high school and college and they’re about as far apart as two humans can possibly get.
This is a talking point you’ve invented from whole cloth and now appear to have convinced yourself is true.
Chubba throws like a 7th grade girl. That’s a fact. His longest play from scrimmage is 19 yards. He cannot complete half his passes.
Move on when you’re dead wrong for once. Lord knows you give yourself plenty of chances.
And they played with the same supporting casts in high school and college? I think you see what you want to see. I’ve seen enough flashes playing for us AND I watched enough of his brother to see the similarities. Screw the statistics. They’re meaningless apples to a oranges comparisons Put him or HH in a run first offense where they’re not expected to run an NFL deep passing game and they’ll probably be fine as backups. The first depth chart will be informative.
I hated to lose Smothers too. We’re probably going to need 3 if not 4 QBs this fall at times and game experience is important.
“Screw the statistics”
I think I’ll use this in future discussions.
The “flashes” you note are textbook seeing what you want to see.
Pot meet kettle.
I also said that Chubba has a pud arm. Last year.
I still remember that 30-40 yard throw he made last year that just died like a wounded duck. That's lack of arm strength.
With a different coaching strategy, maybe changing his arm slot, development of the muscles used in throwing a football, anything is possible. Take a hundred college baseball pitchers for example. They go through college throwing 88-92 mph. Then they go to a minor league team who has a real specialist in teaching pitchers.
They change their arm slot, develop better arm speed, and the next thing you know that kid is throwing 94-96 mph. It can be done. Not saying that's how Chubba could develop.
That’s correct. We’re both seeing what we want to see. I see the positives of Purdy. You see only the negative. There’s too many variables IMO to weight his stats too heavily. I’m not lobbying for him to be #2 but I think that’s where he ends up on the depth chart. You think it’ll be HH and I’m fine with that if that’s what Rhule sees in fall camp.
I’m not sure that we’ve seen Purdy with a 100% healthy throwing arm in the past but HH appears to have the stronger arm. Personally for a college QB I don’t believe arm strength is nearly as important as decision making skills. Zac Taylor had a wet noodle for an arm and he seemed to get it done.
At the end of the day guys, we need to hope that 2-3 of our backups can be serviceable. NU needs to be able to run the same offense, with productive results, regardless of who is leading the squad. Even Coach Osborne made an occassional move at QB for a series or two when the starter wasn't getting it done.
Whoever inherits that role needs to be able to play at a higher level, NU just can't be throwing away 2-3 series throughout the course of a tight game.
Exactly. We’ve got one backup who has taken meaningful snaps in games. If he gets beat out it’s because the inexperienced guy has shown more in practice. IMO we’re fortunate to at least have one guy who has played and I’m not going to pick him apart.
Huskers are transitioning in the QB requirement.
Of course, we had Martinez who refused to throw in tight spots, preferred to run at the first opportunity. That didn't lead to any wins.
Then we had Casey who liked to throw it, was reluctant to run even though he was a pretty good runner. That didn't lead to any wins either.
Now we need the QB to makes the throws on time, if the play breaks down we need the QB to become a dangerous threat as a runner.
I think any of the 3 top QB's can be dangerous as runners, but management of the offense and play design comes first.
I'm not giving up on Chubba considering he may be totally healthy and has had some meangingful coaching to improve.
Last year, Whipple wanted to throw the thing around the lot, and given Chubba's lack of arm strength, certainly did not play well into his overall game.
BUT, if we are being led to believe Satterfield will tailor the offense around plays that allow the OL to stay in their perceived strength, and that he calls plays to support their strengths, then why would he not tailor the overall offense to compensate for either HH or Chubba's lack of strength in a certain area?
I am of a mind that the quarterback's running ability is a very, very distant 3rd behind arm talent & processing/comfort
purdy is a deer in the headlights. no amount of coaching can make up for that.
I agree with dingle that the staff is fortunate to have seen him take meaningful stats so they know where not to spend their time during camp
Personally, I haven't given up on either HH or Chubba. Why? Because they are what we have.
If a change, through injury or otherwise, causes Sims to leave the game, the mentality that neither can get the job done almost makes a fan a person who hopes one or the other do poorly.
Plus, Sims hasn't even taken a meaningful snap for the Huskers yet. We all hope he is top notch, but he's also had a history of getting nicked up. That next man up mentality has to mean something.
Regardless if NU has Turner Gill or Tommy Frazier, the day came when we needed the backup(s) to lead the team. It could be a Mark Mauer or a Brook Berringer. Chubba is more the Mauer type, HH is more the Berringer type.
Physically, not proven talent wise.
Do we really want to drop down to the Monte Cristo type?
But, remember what Rhule said? He said, "I don't want my coaches telling me what a player CAN'T do."
there is definitely a person in this thread who's proven to be rooting for our backup QB to do poorly
and several more who've yet to chime in
Arm strength doesn't matter for a backup qb at this point in the Rhule re-build. It will when we have a real qb room with a young backup waiting to take the starting role (DK?). At this point if the backup qb comes in you just hope to grind out wins any way possible. 50 yard Whipple bombs won't matter. Get some first downs somehow.
imagine thinking arm strength doesn't matter on every throw in major college football, just 50 yard bombs?
couldn't ever be me
You are concerned about arm strength for the backup qb on a team that hasn't been to a bowl game in what, 6 years? A lot of things will hopefully be different in a few years. Rhule has to work with what he has in the meantime.
Wow. Can't imagine arm strength is such a low priority to some folks.
Chubba did a decent job with really quick, short throws in that one game. But, don't **** yourself, good teams will take that away if that's all a QB can do and isn't a threat to go deep on occassion.
The safety starts the game 15 yards off the line, next thing you look up and they're 10 yards then 8 yards. Next thing you know you're playing in a phone booth.
That's like pulling in your outfielders to 200' because the guy at the plate has proven he can't drive the ball. Many times that 175' ball is caught where in a normal defense it's a base hit.
When I coached basketball, the other team's bad shooters were always open. I'd let them shoot their team out of the game.
The good shooters? They don't like to go left? We close out strong and force them to go left. I rotate fresh defenders in their face till that players tongue was hanging out from trying to get open, then they start forcing shots they can't make.
My teams weren't fun to play against.
If Sims goes down for more then a few series or a half then we are screwed either way. Sure, if Purdy has to start 9 games then arm strength starts to matter. If Purdy has to finish the 4th quarter of the Purdue game you are going to have a hard time convincing me arm strength will matter.
I expect 8 wins this year, and do not believe we are "screwed" if our injury-prone quarterback gets injured. I do not expect him to make every start, but will be happy if he does.
arm strength matters up and down the depth chart. you play how you practice, and if our WRs/TEs are catching floaters in practice, they won't be ready when the bullets are flying. backups will surely be needed at those positions during the course of the season, as well.
just a devastatingly horrible opinion from a guy who's making such his norm.
exactly what happened when chubba played last year.
he gave us no juice and no chance.
I have given up on him based on what he's put on tape. if I'm wrong, I will gleefully admit it like I do each fleeting time I am proven to be on the incorrect side of the ledger.
What are you going to say if Rhule annoints Purdy as the top backup over your boy HH? Are you going to:
1) say Rhule doesn't know what he is doing
2) say HH isn't who you thought he was 3) say that Purdy must have a better arm then you thought
Can your ego handle that scenario?
#2. Easy.
I have no ego and freely discuss my incorrect opinions when they're proven as such.
Sure you do. No one believes that, including you. You wouldn't even admit you were wrong when you said Memorial Stadium should have a grass field because of the Sandhills.
"Arm strength doesn't matter..."
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heading to Sandhills GC this week. will be rubbing elbows with some interesting elites.
can't wait.
this says 4.88, but I'm not sure when it's from
You should study the difference between turf grasses and native grasses when you are there. Might help you in the future when you are trying to once again come off as an expert on a subject you clearly don't know anything about.
here's the post:
not exactly what you've been trying for months to make it out to be
as stated now thrice - it was a clear jest at those who've said we are too far north to play on grass, a discussion I've had with the same poster(s) for a long time here
very convenient for you to misremember & twist it in an attempt to take the spotlight off your own dim bulb
"arm strength doesn't matter..." RollingLaugh
That's the funny part. You are so full of **** that you didn’t even realize that the native grasses of the Sandhills don't have anything to do with the turfgrasses that would go in Memorial Stadium. Clearly in jest..Lol.
Face it. You are a Google warrior who must build confidence by trying to win internet arguments. Everyone else is here to casually discuss Husker football. That's why you take everything so serious.
I'll say this for Purdy. He was put in some bad situations. Others may remember it better than I do, but I think his first appearance was coming in cold without any prep time. The offense was playing poorly and NU was stuck inside its own 10. I think he got sacked for a safety or something that on his first play. Another time he was brought in, he was playing hurt. Momentum was always on the other team's side and our offensive line was reeling.
A lot has been said of Purdy having the yips, but how many times have we watched NFL and college football and when the backup is in the expert commentator talks about calling plays to build confidence and so forth. Well, Purdy didn't get any favors.
that was the point
you do know how jokes work, yes?
only took 2.5 months for you to get it
Rhule is certainly not looking at him this way - he fully expects him to play on Sundays. Hopefully he’s right and we see him get better throughout the year.