Maybe We Need To ....

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hire Urban Meyer as a consultant to fix our football program. We've mucked around at the bottom of the toilet bowl for far too long. Nobody currently in Lincoln knows what it takes to win in football any more, not Moos, not Frost nor any of the assistant coaches. We desperately need somebody to fix the situation who's been there and done that before. Urban's not the coaching solution because he's in the retirement zone but he knows how to do it and has done it more than once before. He likely could pick an up and coming coach for us that actually could fix things. Don't think Moos can do it.

We all wanted Frost, myself included, but it's becoming clear Frost's systems just won't work in the B1G. An expensive and disasterous experiment - worth trying but let's face it that experiment isn't working. Frost's systems are dependent upon having players that Nebraska is not likely to be able to recruit - at least on a consistent basis. And sadly I'm not at all impressed with Frost's game time coaching and coaching adjustments.

Urban has plenty of experience in the B1G so if anybody other than Alvarez knows what it takes, it probably is him. But Alvarez gave us the Trojan horse otherwise named Eichorst so no more trusting Barry who has an agenda.
 
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dinglefritz

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hire Urban Meyer as a consultant to fix our football program. We've mucked around at the bottom of the toilet bowl for far too long. Nobody currently in Lincoln knows what it takes to win in football any more, not Moos, not Frost nor any of the assistant coaches. We desperately need somebody to fix the situation who's been there and done that before. Urban's not the coaching solution because he's in the retirement zone but he knows how to do it and has done it more than once before. He likely could pick an up and coming coach for us that actually could fix things. Don't think Moos can do it.

We all wanted Frost, myself included, but it's becoming clear Frost's systems just won't work in the B1G. An expensive and disasterous experiment - worth trying but let's face it that experiment isn't working. Frost's systems are dependent upon having players that Nebraska is not likely to be able to recruit - at least on a consistent basis. And sadly I'm not at all impressed with Frost's game time coaching and coaching adjustments.

Urban has plenty of experience in the B1G so if anybody other than Alvarez knows what it takes, it probably is him. But Alvarez gave us the Trojan horse otherwise named Eichorst so no more trusting Barry who has an agenda.
I've had enough of the revolving door of coaching staffs. I'm still all in with Frost. IF he can't win here then I don't think anybody will. Look at our F'n senior class. Who is it? I've said it for TWO years. We won't be able to judge Frost well until AM is a senior and that first full class is juniors. He started with a complete sh##show of a roster.
 

Redscarlet

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I've had enough of the revolving door of coaching staffs. I'm still all in with Frost. IF he can't win here then I don't think anybody will. Look at our F'n senior class. Who is it? I've said it for TWO years. We won't be able to judge Frost well until AM is a senior and that first full class is juniors. He started with a complete sh##show of a roster.

Agreed, but he is going to have to make some tough decisions on his coaching staff and make some changes or it will be his downfall in doing so..
 
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I've had enough of the revolving door of coaching staffs. I'm still all in with Frost. IF he can't win here then I don't think anybody will. Look at our F'n senior class. Who is it? I've said it for TWO years. We won't be able to judge Frost well until AM is a senior and that first full class is juniors. He started with a complete sh##show of a roster.
The problem is that I've seen no progress. That's the very troubling sign. Not expecting a playoff team but geez now we can't even beat Illinois in the 3rd year? We're supposed to blame that all on Riley? We're competing for the worst team in the B1G this year, and it's our third year under Frost. It's gone beyond whatever he inherited by now. These are his players and his coaches. There's something fundamentally wrong that needs to be changed. I don't know what it is but that's what is expected of a head coach getting paid $5 million per year.
 

BuckysBoys1

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Like I’ve said before my concern is that nobody is getting better. Zero improvement from anybody. That says it all, coaching is not happening.
 

HuskerLove

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I've had enough of the revolving door of coaching staffs. I'm still all in with Frost. IF he can't win here then I don't think anybody will. Look at our F'n senior class. Who is it? I've said it for TWO years. We won't be able to judge Frost well until AM is a senior and that first full class is juniors. He started with a complete sh##show of a roster.
This is NOT a talent issue anymore.

The Huskers have more ‘stars’ on their roster than any team in the West, as well as everyone in the East not named Ohio State, Penn State, or Michigan.

This is 100% on the coaching, but more specifically, PLAYER DEVELOPMENT. You can recruit all the 4* guys in the world but it doesn’t mean anything if you can’t develop them once they get to campus.
 

dinglefritz

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The problem is that I've seen no progress. That's the very troubling sign. Not expecting a playoff team but geez now we can't even beat Illinois in the 3rd year? We're supposed to blame that all on Riley? We're competing for the worst team in the B1G this year, and it's our third year under Frost. It's gone beyond whatever he inherited by now. These are his players and his coaches. There's something fundamentally wrong that needs to be changed. I don't know what it is but that's what is expected of a head coach getting paid $5 million per year.
Isn't Lovie in his 3rd year as well? Lovie's a damned good coach. I said it last year. He's going to win games at Illinois. We didn't look good today. We've seen what Luke can do now. Now we know why AM was #1 to start the season. Our #1 problem is our QB play. Some of that is Jurgens' injury and the fact that we replaced Wilson with Piper in part because Wilson was committing too many penalties.
 

Redscarlet

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Like I’ve said before my concern is that nobody is getting better. Zero improvement from anybody. That says it all, coaching is not happening.

After today I diffidently agree with you.. we’re not getting better like everyone else I’ve been watching..
 

dinglefritz

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This is NOT a talent issue anymore.

The Huskers have more ‘stars’ on their roster than any team in the West, as well as everyone in the East not named Ohio State, Penn State, or Michigan.

This is 100% on the coaching, but more specifically, PLAYER DEVELOPMENT. You can recruit all the 4* guys in the world but it doesn’t mean anything if you can’t develop them once they get to campus.
You are right it isn't talent anymore. The most talented guys on our roster are freshmen and sophomores. Generally you give those guys until their junior year.
 

Thortulz

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Chinander and that 3-4 no pass rush blackshirt defense is the first thing that needs to go. Being passive and waiting for the other teams offense to make a mistake is a recipe for disaster and we prove it week in and week out.
 

kerpal_68

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Chinander appears to not be good, but Frosts offense sure puts them in some ****** spots. You can't continue to go 3 and out and expect your defense to stay on the field all game. I think the first defensive series in the second half shows how good the defense can play when everyone is flying to the ball. For some reason the whole team was drowsy and lousy today.
 
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Isn't Lovie in his 3rd year as well? Lovie's a damned good coach. I said it last year. He's going to win games at Illinois. We didn't look good today. We've seen what Luke can do now. Now we know why AM was #1 to start the season. Our #1 problem is our QB play. Some of that is Jurgens' injury and the fact that we replaced Wilson with Piper in part because Wilson was committing too many penalties.
QB is a problem for sure BUT far from the only problem. The OL for starters gets worse week by week. It can't block worth a damn either to protect the QB or to open holes for a RB. The defense wasn't so hot either today giving up huge yardage AND points. The problem is far bigger than a single player IMO - it's a whole team problem. I don't think it's lack of talent either because teams with far less overall talent (at least according to the recruiting site gurus) are whipping our ***.
 

BuckysBoys1

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If you take the O line as individuals they are all fairly talented. It’s the scheme that’s not working. Against Northwestern Matt Farniok was play center, snapped the ball and pulled to his left. The nose tackle sacked AM because nobody freakin blocked him. That’s scheme, not players.
 

dinglefritz

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QB is a problem for sure BUT far from the only problem. The OL for starters gets worse week by week. It can't block worth a damn either to protect the QB or to open holes for a RB. The defense wasn't so hot either today giving up huge yardage AND points. The problem is far bigger than a single player IMO - it's a whole team problem. I don't think it's lack of talent either because teams with far less overall talent (at least according to the recruiting site gurus) are whipping our ***.
2 sophomores and a redshirt freshman are starting on our O line and the sophomore center was playing with an injury. IMO that's a big part of our problems there. We need to be starting ALL seniors and juniors on our O line. We're not there yet. I'm getting the impression that Frost is trying to get the most talented guys on the field regardless of experience. The more I look at this, the more I think they are going to take some lumps with young guys to try to make a run with them next year.
 

dinglefritz

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If you take the O line as individuals they are all fairly talented. It’s the scheme that’s not working. Against Northwestern Matt Farniok was play center, snapped the ball and pulled to his left. The nose tackle sacked AM because nobody freakin blocked him. That’s scheme, not players.
That's a blown assignment by the sophomore that replaced Farniok at guard.
 

DaServo

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I've had enough of the revolving door of coaching staffs. I'm still all in with Frost. IF he can't win here then I don't think anybody will. Look at our F'n senior class. Who is it? I've said it for TWO years. We won't be able to judge Frost well until AM is a senior and that first full class is juniors. He started with a complete sh##show of a roster.

This is not a bad take on the situation. I’m not all in but we need some stability and it might come with frustration. Cheers
 

Mack In Motion

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Isn't Lovie in his 3rd year as well? Lovie's a damned good coach. I said it last year. He's going to win games at Illinois. We didn't look good today. We've seen what Luke can do now. Now we know why AM was #1 to start the season. Our #1 problem is our QB play. Some of that is Jurgens' injury and the fact that we replaced Wilson with Piper in part because Wilson was committing too many penalties.
This is Smith's 5th year at Illinois. First without the beard.
 

oldjar07

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hire Urban Meyer as a consultant to fix our football program. We've mucked around at the bottom of the toilet bowl for far too long. Nobody currently in Lincoln knows what it takes to win in football any more, not Moos, not Frost nor any of the assistant coaches. We desperately need somebody to fix the situation who's been there and done that before. Urban's not the coaching solution because he's in the retirement zone but he knows how to do it and has done it more than once before. He likely could pick an up and coming coach for us that actually could fix things. Don't think Moos can do it.

We all wanted Frost, myself included, but it's becoming clear Frost's systems just won't work in the B1G. An expensive and disasterous experiment - worth trying but let's face it that experiment isn't working. Frost's systems are dependent upon having players that Nebraska is not likely to be able to recruit - at least on a consistent basis. And sadly I'm not at all impressed with Frost's game time coaching and coaching adjustments.

Urban has plenty of experience in the B1G so if anybody other than Alvarez knows what it takes, it probably is him. But Alvarez gave us the Trojan horse otherwise named Eichorst so no more trusting Barry who has an agenda.
If we're going to bring him here anyway, why not pay him $8 million more and have him be our head coach?
 

huskerbaseball13

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Isn't Lovie in his 3rd year as well? Lovie's a damned good coach. I said it last year. He's going to win games at Illinois. We didn't look good today. We've seen what Luke can do now. Now we know why AM was #1 to start the season. Our #1 problem is our QB play. Some of that is Jurgens' injury and the fact that we replaced Wilson with Piper in part because Wilson was committing too many penalties.

Lovie is in his 5th year and will likely be getting fired next year. Frost is about the only person who has made Lovie’s defense look good.
 

dinglefritz

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If we're going to bring him here anyway, why not pay him $8 million more and have him be our head coach?
Hmmm...8 million/year for Urban and a 5 millon/year for 7 years buyout....wonder what the odds are of that happening? That's exactly why the regents agreed to the contract extension for Frost. He's here to stay. We better get used to it and get behind him because he isn't going anywhere.
 

BuckysBoys1

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Do you not remember Scott Frosts comments about hiring a tackling consultant. What makes you think he would let Urban come tell him how to be a coach. Maybe Frost would just quit.
 

Hus

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hire Urban Meyer as a consultant to fix our football program. We've mucked around at the bottom of the toilet bowl for far too long. Nobody currently in Lincoln knows what it takes to win in football any more, not Moos, not Frost nor any of the assistant coaches. We desperately need somebody to fix the situation who's been there and done that before. Urban's not the coaching solution because he's in the retirement zone but he knows how to do it and has done it more than once before. He likely could pick an up and coming coach for us that actually could fix things. Don't think Moos can do it.

We all wanted Frost, myself included, but it's becoming clear Frost's systems just won't work in the B1G. An expensive and disasterous experiment - worth trying but let's face it that experiment isn't working. Frost's systems are dependent upon having players that Nebraska is not likely to be able to recruit - at least on a consistent basis. And sadly I'm not at all impressed with Frost's game time coaching and coaching adjustments.

Urban has plenty of experience in the B1G so if anybody other than Alvarez knows what it takes, it probably is him. But Alvarez gave us the Trojan horse otherwise named Eichorst so no more trusting Barry who has an agenda.
Bring Vedral back. he is having a ball at Rutgers
 

the24fan

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If we're going to bring him here anyway, why not pay him $8 million more and have him be our head coach?
🤣🤣🤣 you’re delusional if you think UM is coming within 200 miles of Lincoln. He has USC or Texas all over him. Try again