Which was pure luck. Melton behaved recklessly, and disciplining him is very appropriate.
Max Melton
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Yes and he was suspended for 2 games . I am sure he’s sorry and it will never happen again blah blah. Now it’s time to get him back and go win football games .
Only after you agree to have one of your loved ones receive a blood bruise welt on the small of their back while minding their own business and least expect it.
Winning means so much to you, I’m sure you’ll agree to this
So basically the whole season. His court date isn't till early Nov. so you can count Wisconsin out and maybe Indiana too. He's been suspended from all team activities for two months now no way he plays at psu in one week back.
Ok so maybe the Maryland game after two weeks of practice and even still probably in spot duty cause he's only now practiced for two weeks after a two month layoff. Yea basically the whole season. So the kids going to get an 8 week suspension and play in maybe 3 games this season. For something that will probably result in PTI, probation and some community service. Sounds fair?
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Isn’t it pure assumption GS is waiting for any legal process, court date or things playing out?
As head coach perhaps he considers himself the judge and jury.
The punishment needs to fit the crime . Two games and two losses is enough punishment . If max hasn’t learned his lesson by now , he’s never gonna learn it.
I have no idea. But the idea of waiting till the courts to decide to me is insanely harsh. The kids never been in trouble before which means this will probably go to PTI , some probation and community service. Wait for the courts and he sees time in maybe one game this season, if we're lucky maybe a bowl game as well. That's the punishment many are asking for here.
I find it disturbing that so many on here think that a drive by shooting with injuries is no big deal.
I find it disturbing you liken this to a Chicago gangland tragedy. What's the proper punishment in your mind? Jail time, Kicked off the team, expulsion from school, public shaming?
I don’t think people said it’s no big deal . I think honestly most fans don’t care what these “ kids” do during the week . We just want to have fun watching our team on Saturday . And winning is fun.
No I don't. But it's certainly not a prank. If they weren't Rutger's football players you wouldn't be defending them.
If it happened to you, you would be suing them.
Or if one of the victims was their kid!
Oh yea, man up son, we need to win Saturday
Other schools would allow them to play pending resolution. Presumed innocence and all that stuff. In the SEC they would play all year, because the court case -- magically -- wouldn't be heard until the spring. The players would be contrite and get two weeks detention.
No it wasn't a prank but their intent clearly wasn't to kill or maim. If they weren't football players their life would go on as normal till the trial. What are you suspending them from? So I really don't get the point.
Sue for what a welt? Maybe I was brought up differently but my family weren't big on the suing thing. Would I want them to go to court, yes, if the prosecutor explained they've never been in trouble before and they recommend PTI I'd be fine with it. Maybe you are, but I'm not willing to destroy a kids life over a welt.
A little different . Kilmer was a spoof on FNL and a hs coach. .Coach Kilmer Plum
Huge difference between a kid paying to attend and breaking the law. Max is a scholarship athlete representing the university. Both can attend classes, Greg’s policy is you get yourself in to a legal situation you’re suspended from the team until it’s resolved. Bravo to him .. stupidity has consequences
What's the point? Since they're high profile football players they should be burned at the stake? So we can say, we have a higher moral standard than others? In the quest to feel better about ourselves is that really fair?
Any other kid who has never been in trouble before this is goes to PTI he gets probation and community service. His life isn't altered till the trial, they're not ostracized from society after. But in the quest to feel morally superior board members want these guys crucified.
Just so you know I think these kids are done for the year. By time the trial/ PTI gets worked out and they're reinstated it'll be over two months since they last participated in any teams activities. At that point it's useless to bring them back. So the board members asking for crucifixion will get their way. Then we'll see if they come back next year or start somewhere else.
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And this board regularly trashes the SEC because of that. What's next adopting UNC's class attendance requirements?
Any punishment that does not affect his 22-4 eligibility and scholie does not destroy his life.
Good post . Maybe the silver lining is that this can count as a redshirt tear for Melton . But I think the kid is good enough that he won’t be playing here for 6 years anyway and takes his talents to the next level
I'm not advocating that Melton be allowed to play this weekend, but result is absolutely factored into the punishment.
As a real gun owner, anyone who uses anything that propels an object at others is looking for trouble.
Don't people who play with these things wear eye protection? Certainly innocent people are not and are subject to injury if hit there.
Doing what they did is simply stupid and thoughtless.
I know of a girl who lost her eye many years ago to someone at a party with what he thought was an empty pellet gun.
I have no problem with him being punished the way he is and kudos to Schiano for not becoming one of those coaches who put football over everything else.
Don't people who play with these things wear eye protection? Certainly innocent people are not and are subject to injury if hit there.
Doing what they did is simply stupid and thoughtless.
I know of a girl who lost her eye many years ago to someone at a party with what he thought was an empty pellet gun.
I have no problem with him being punished the way he is and kudos to Schiano for not becoming one of those coaches who put football over everything else.
Burned at the stake?? What a drama queen!!
They didn't even get a slap on the wrist. They didn't lose their scholarships. They can still go to class and earn credits to a college degree. They have place to live and get fed very well for FREE!
Seems to me purposefully and knowingly inflicting pain on random, unsuspecting students would get your *** thrown out of school.
That’s any student regardless if whether they play a sport or not.
Stealing a dollar out of another students gym locker got my brother expelled from MKA eons ago.
Worked out well as it paved the way for our Montclair public schools education for the rest of us
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Despite some in-fighting, I'm glad I created this thread. It looks like about 80% of you feel this is very serious and a 3 game suspension is not adequate. That's an eye opener for me.
Admittedly, I don't know much about paintball. I know participants where goggles and jackets but I didn't think it was that big of a deal. Obviously, I'm mistaken.
And for the record, I'm over 55.
Admittedly, I don't know much about paintball. I know participants where goggles and jackets but I didn't think it was that big of a deal. Obviously, I'm mistaken.
And for the record, I'm over 55.
Can you explain your mindset as to how inflicting pain on random student victims isn’t a big deal.
Thanks Lou?
Agreed. Beyond the legal side, I think this is something that gets people in some serious trouble at school.
He will be lucky if he isn't suspended from school or even expelled. That's just how these college disciplinary processes work. In a lot of ways they mete out harsher punishments than the legal system does. We can agree or disagree with that approach, but that's how it works.
EDIT: I'm not saying he SHOULD be expelled or suspended. I am saying that kids get kicked out or expelled for very random reasons because there's no real "due process". It's a random collection of students and faculty adjudicating this stuff.
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Three counts of aggravated assault, each punishable by 18 months in jail is no small matter. While probation is the expected outcome, one cannot say until everything is finalized. Conservatively I’d say they’re done for the season, though I hope they return.
For the record, I think:
a) It was clearly a case of immaturity on the part of Max more so than any intent to harm.
b) Schiano is right in waiting for the legal process to take its course before "officially" admitting Max back into the program.
c) I'm in agreement with the folks here that as a fan, running a "clean" program is far more important than winning. You can't have it both ways. If Schiano intends to be the fatherly figure he professes to parents on recruiting visits, then he can't possibly turn a blind eye to potential legal infractions, otherwise the first two letters of his "FTC" mantra ring very hollow.
And P.S.... While I may be a shade under 55 (see my screen name), as I previously mentioned here, I readily admit to doing incredibly stoopid and childish pranks both in high school and college. (I can personally recall being hauled into a police station, and even being kicked out of Rutgers housing my final month prior to graduating RU. Thankfully no criminal records though...)
In short, as anyone here can attest, life has consequences.