Max Melton

RU#1fan

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Seems to me purposefully and knowingly inflicting pain on random, unsuspecting students would get your *** thrown out of school.
That’s any student regardless if whether they play a sport or not.
Stealing a dollar out of another students gym locker got my brother expelled for MKA eons ago.
Lol
This.
Suspend them both for the season. After doing their Community Service or whatever sentence they get let them ask for reinstatement in January. Sends the correct message to them and the entire team.
 

RUGuitarMan1

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I think both Melton and Long will get another chance to be part of the team, I don’t think it will be this season. Schiano will and should run the program that discourages bad behavior off the field. We’ve seen the consequences of it not being run that way. I think most RU alums don’t want to read headlines all over about how the entire defensive backfield was arrested after practice as we did not all that long ago.
 

LeapinLou

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Can you explain your mindset as to how inflicting pain on random student victims isn’t a big deal.
Thanks Lou?
Zap - Prior to my post, I was equating it more to hitting an unsuspecting victim with a snowball. Is it wrong? Yes. Should you be punished? Yes. Is it the worst thing most of us ever did? Probably not.
As I said, I appreciate the comments and perspective of the board which has changed my view of this.
 

zappaa

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Zap - Prior to my post, I was equating it more to hitting an unsuspecting victim with a snowball. Is it wrong? Yes. Should you be punished? Yes. Is it the worst thing most of us ever did? Probably not.
As I said, I appreciate the comments and perspective of the board which has changed my view of this.
Yea-
snow ball throwing is not a big deal, for the most part
 

TM94goRU

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Season had great vibes until this
This reminds me so much of when Plaxico shot himself. The Giants were rolling, and I think very well would have won another Super Bowl. He shoots himself, and everything changed, the wheels fell off.

The year can still be saved, if we beat MSU, but in so many ways, I feel that this paintball incident, will go down as the negative turning point of the season.
 
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Shelby65

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Imagine the stain if he’s reinstated now and is later tried and found guilty of agg. assault. Can’t assume the legal outcome will be minimal .

Even if GS wants him back sooner, his hands are tied for Rutgers PR reasons.

Until the legal stuff is sorted out, RU can’t take any chances.
 
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Hardslider33

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Any other kid who has never been in trouble before this is goes to PTI he gets probation and community service. His life isn't altered till the trial, they're not ostracized from society after. But in the quest to feel morally superior board members want these guys crucified.

I think your wrong here, WE the board members have no say in this matter what so ever.
You should write Greg an email telling him your opinion on how HE is handling this.

I personally, find it morally correct. Greg is changing the culture here, one that has had more than one police incident in recent years. It’s called turning kids (a few not the majority by any stretch) that might not have had role models that taught them this stupid stuff isn’t funny.
You know making men out of them. Allowing exceptions to the rule causes gray areas and confusion Greg doesn’t need or want. Bravo 👏🏻 to him for that.
 

Plum Street

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I think your wrong here, WE the board members have no say in this matter what so ever.
You should write Greg an email telling him your opinion on how HE is handling this.

I personally, find it morally correct. Greg is changing the culture here, one that has had more than one police incident in recent years. It’s called turning kids (a few not the majority by any stretch) that might not have had role models that taught them this stupid stuff isn’t funny.
You know making men out of them. Allowing exceptions to the rule causes gray areas and confusion Greg doesn’t need or want. Bravo 👏🏻 to him for that.
I agree with your post mostly, although I want to see max out there . But I get it. In year 2 , schiano gets afforded this luxury . If say this was year 5 and he hasn’t made a bowl , well you may see a different way to approach Max’s discipline.
 

Blitz8RU

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Imagine the stain if he’s reinstated now and is later tried and found guilty of agg. assault. Can’t assume the legal outcome will be minimal .

Even if GS wants him back sooner, his hands are tied for Rutgers PR reasons.

Until the legal stuff is sorted out, RU can’t take any chances.
I thought "Stain" is good. At least that's what I've read on this board.
 

Blitz8RU

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Yet we are down to him at the half.
yeah cuz we are outmanned and outgunned.

we need to rely on superior teams to self-destruct to have a shot to win.

MSU has been shooting themselves in the foot all game and we've been keeping it close with smoke and mirrors.

our coaching is also much better than MSU.
 
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Plum Street

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yeah cuz we are outmanned and outgunned.

we need to rely on superior teams to self-destruct to have a shot to win.

MSU has been shooting themselves in the foot all game and we've been keeping it close with smoke and mirrors.

our coaching is also much better than MSU.
Out manned and out gunned and aren’t you the guy that posted Melton should remain suspended ?? Omg ! You people! This stuff can’t be made up !
 

Blitz8RU

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Out manned and out gunned and aren’t you the guy that posted Melton should remain suspended ?? Omg ! You people! This stuff can’t be made up !
yeah I did. The solution isn't to bring some in that's in trouble with the law. What kind of message does that set for your program and send to the team?
 

Blitz8RU

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Who cares? Losing sends the worst message
You seem to be fine with "winning at all costs" I'm not.

Winning at all costs should only be applied to life/death situations not a damn football game.

The football program is a vehicle for education. You are also educating these players on how to conduct the rest of their lives. Setting good values is key for a strong program going forward.
 

NickKnight 1

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What do you do when you tell a kid here is
a free 4 year education, and does something
like this, sorry there are people that would give their left nut for that. Including me, to give that
education to my father less grandson.
 

zappaa

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Out manned and out gunned and aren’t you the guy that posted Melton should remain suspended ?? Omg ! You people! This stuff can’t be made up !
WTF is the difference what people on this board want, take you ire out on the coach if you don’t like it.
You’re calling GS a pathetic piece of ****….that’s all you’re doing.
Tell him to his face what your thoughts are on his discipline to Max
 

Plum Street

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WTF is the difference what people on this board want, take you ire out on the coach if you don’t like it.
You’re calling GS a pathetic piece of ****….that’s all you’re going
No. I didn’t call GS that. Look through my posts . By your logic we shouldn’t have a fan message board
 

Plum Street

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He’s got **** tied, he runs the program as he sees fit.
If you didn’t like his decision tell him.
What any fan wants is iirrelevant
Again, by your logic we shouldn’t have a fan message board because “what we is irrelevant.” Great !
 

Plum Street

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They have nothing to do with him not playing
Fans have nothing to do with many things that we still discuss here.
what we do have something to do with is staying loud and carrying this team to a win today. Let’s do it and get the w !
 

rob kight

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Fans have nothing to do with many things that we still discuss here.
what we do have something to do with is staying loud and carrying this team to a win today. Let’s do it and get the w !
Mark Few Gonzaga coach suspended one game for DUI vs season for Melton
 

Zimm80

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Never happening my friends, if you think
You seem to be fine with "winning at all costs" I'm not.

Winning at all costs should only be applied to life/death situations not a damn football game.

The football program is a vehicle for education. You are also educating these players on how to conduct the rest of their lives. Setting good values is key for a strong program going forward.
Rutgers will never win a National Championship without a little cheating or cutting corners a little in my opinion if you think otherwise your delusional, it’s a grand illusion to have which I myself have frequently pictured in my head but it will never happen, sorry to burst your bubble or anyone else’s . I wish Max could play but because we are not one of the big boys in college football and because today’s time of xxxxxx culture and being xxke it just is not going to happen especially at a NJ college in today’s climate. After there penalties are handed out in a court of law I would not be surprised depending on the outcome that they don’t end up in the transfer portal, I hope not but I could definitely see that happening.
 

RU#1fan

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You seem to be fine with "winning at all costs" I'm not.

Winning at all costs should only be applied to life/death situations not a damn football game.

The football program is a vehicle for education. You are also educating these players on how to conduct the rest of their lives. Setting good values is key for a strong program going forward.

you are spot on. The other guy is plum crazy.