Matt jones

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What does it matter how much talent? All that counts is winning. Isn't it the responsibility of the head coach to recruit. Based on that theory then Cal should recruit all 2 and 3 star recruits and win a few games and you would say he is a wonderful coach. He didn't have good talent but he developed what he had and got a bid to the NIT. I am sure UK fans would be happy. Look at the talent Duke had with this roster and they still failed to win it all.
Zion Williamson, RJ Barrett, Cam Reddish. and Tre Jones. So coach K is a terrible coach but without those players they might not even get a bid to the tourney. Without talent you have no chance and if you recruit good talent you should win a national championship every year. Really.
How silly is that argument.
I think you missed the point. Cal is not good enough at bench coaching to win without extraordinary talent. Doesn’t mean he or anyone else will necessarily win with great talent.
 

notFromhere

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I know some of you don’t care for him but he is talking about the season and he nails it.Try to find the podcast to listen to it. Spot on.

He finally came around to what everyone on here has been saying this season. Good for him. He's a politician, though, so he knows he has to say it. Anyone with a pulse knows Cal **** in his own wheaties by pickin on the fans, when it's HIS decisions that got us to this point.

It revealed how weak Cal is, and that's not a good look going forward. He won't change, though. He can't.

Bottom line is that it won't matter if he can find another class like the one that got him the 2012 title and the lockdown ends. If he has to coach up his team and outcoach another coach in-game to win one, we'll not see another until he gets some help from his assistants or hebmoves on.
 
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ABlockalypseBrow

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I said the week of the Miss st game which I believe included vandy as well. Between that game and the last Dontaie shot 23% from 3 and 30% from the field. He only played 13 minutes a game though.

First of all, the Miss St game was on a Saturday, so that week shouldn’t include a game the next Tuesday.

Second, by my math taking away the Vandy game he is still 14/45 from 3 which is 31% not 20%.

So honestly what are you on about?
 

kl40504_rivals

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He finally came around to what everyone on here has been saying this season. Good for him. He's a politician, though, so he knows he has to say it. Anyone with a pulse knows Cal **** in his own wheaties by pickin on the fans, when it's HIS decisions that got us to this point.

It revealed how weak he is, and that's not a good look going forward. He won't change, though. He can't.

Bottom line is that it won't matter if he can find another class like the one that got him the 2012 title and the lockdown ends. If he has to coach up his team and outcoach another coach in-game to win one, we'll not see another until he gets some help from his assistants or hebmoves on.
He just out coached Pitino 80% of the time while Pitino was at Louisville.
 
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kl40504_rivals

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I listen to his show daily, obviously you don't. He rarely talks about any of the other programs in Kentucky, so you have no earthly idea wtf you're talking about.

And no, he's not a college basketball expert, but damn, that doesn't mean he doesn't have two eyeballs. It doesn't take an expert to talk about college basketball.

You look like a complete dolt when you crack on the guy because he got WKU's conference wrong. How petty are you?

You're that guy that sits on his porch doing nothing all day but critisizing those that are working hard.

Do you think you would never make a mistake on the air if you did a 2 hour radio show every weekday for years? What kind of schmuck calls out a guy for such a minor error and belittles the guy for it?

He does a radio show about UK sports for our entertainment and idiots like you listen to his show every day, just so you can find things to hate him over. Get over yourself.
Ryan is nothing but a yes guy to Matt. He knows very little about college sports.
 

BluCroo

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Matt Jones is a punkin' head that parrots what everybody with any sense already knows.

I don't need to listen to Matt Jones to know what's going on.
 

kyjeff1

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Ryan is nothing but a yes guy to Matt. He knows very little about college sports.
The conversation was never about Ryan. The guy is stuck 10' up Matt's *** and just agrees with everything he says, but that doesn't mesn the show sucks. It consistently gets the best ratings and that's because KY fans care. It’s another example that shows how passionate the BBN is.

Cal loves it when we're cheering him on, but is mocking us when we call him out for what he's foing to our program.

The BBN giveth and the BBN can taketh away. There's a reason UK can pay Cal 9 million a year and it certainly isn't because Cal is a great in game coach.
 
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All of you Matt Jones dislikes have a thread going of over 300 posts about him now, lol.
 

Bluesbrother

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He never had the chance to get into any kind of a rhythm, he played 2 minutes here and there.

Take a long look at Askew and Boston's stats. There was a point when Boston was shooting 17% from 3 point range, but still got 30+ mpg. That's crazy.

Yeah, he got 11ppg, but he constantly shot 3-11, 4-15, 4-12 or so, to get it.

If Allen had the same leash and the same minutes, he would have far better year end numbers than Boston and Askew combined. At least Allen can make a layup or a 5 footer. Boston might be the worst finisher from 8' and in that I've ever seen.

But yeah, lets focus on what Allen did in the 2 minute spurts he was getting every game.
Absolutely correct.
 

Bluesbrother

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And the reason he didn't have his typical players, is because his culture. That culture is what chased Hagans and EJ. He didn't recruit those players back, he failed them. Look where they are now. Hagans wasn’t mature enough to go the the NBA and look what happened. He broke a rule and got axed.

He talks about "doing it for the kids" and "doing what is right by the kids", but that looks like a lie to me. The kids that need his help, are guys like Whitney, Hagans, EJ, Allen, Baker, Fletcher and Juzang (many more), but he ***** on those guys.

It looks to me like it’s more like "NBA potential first and foremost". I don’t see how anyone can disagree with me on that.

College players are different than kids that are built for the NBA. It's way past time Cal starts building college players and helping those kids. The NBA potential kids don’t need help.

Boston is a perfect example. The kid had an awful season, but he would still get drafted if he jumped. In my opinion, Cal failed him. He WAS a lottery pick, now he's probably a 2nd rounder. But why does Cal choose to help him and push the others to the side?

Lastly, the types of kids that thrive under Cal, simply aren’t coming here anymore. All the facts are there for him to stop this madness.
This.
 
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I listen to his show daily, obviously you don't. He rarely talks about any of the other programs in Kentucky, so you have no earthly idea wtf you're talking about.

And no, he's not a college basketball expert, but damn, that doesn't mean he doesn't have two eyeballs. It doesn't take an expert to talk about college basketball.

You look like a complete dolt when you crack on the guy because he got WKU's conference wrong. How petty are you?

You're that guy that sits on his porch doing nothing all day but critisizing those that are working hard.

Do you think you would never make a mistake on the air if you did a 2 hour radio show every weekday for years? What kind of schmuck calls out a guy for such a minor error and belittles the guy for it?

He does a radio show about UK sports for our entertainment and idiots like you listen to his show every day, just so you can find things to hate him over. Get over yourself.

Well if you listen to his show you know that he is smarmy and talks down to others all the time. And has an air of superiority that is pretty irritating. And he frequently challenges others when they say things that are factually incorrect, often in a very denigrating way. And to be honest, I could give two s**** about what you think. If you think a Kentucky sports media figure, who has lived in the state all his life, shouldn't know what conference Western Kentucky is in, then you're as dumb as he is. GFY.
 

Bluesbrother

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If Cal doesn't care about wins and losses, then his time at Kentucky is over and he can leave. That proves to me he only cares about the money, not about the tradition of Kentucky basketball. I supported Cal throughout the years, but after what he has said and done, then his time at Kentucky is done.
You are correct. If Barnhart doesn't get rid of this ***-clown, the fans will. He will be hated by the best and most knowledgeable fans in college BB. Do you think that is something he desires? Whether it is desired or not, he will get hammered. Cal was handed the keys to the greatest BB program in the country and look what he's done with it. Cal is twisted and unfixable, IMO. He needs to go yesterday.
 
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Bluesbrother

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My guess is that if mostly conservative UK fans had any idea what he posts on his personal twitter page (@mattjonesradio), a lot of them would do an about-face on supporting/listening to his radio show and patronizing his restaurant

Could be wrong....
You're NOT wrong, at least for those fans that give two sh!ts.
 
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univky12

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He finally came around to what everyone on here has been saying this season. Good for him. He's a politician, though, so he knows he has to say it.

Jones is a politician (wannabe) who knows that Cal has to change and win back a large portion of the fan base, but yet, as a businessman Jones does his best to drive away 60+% of his potential listeners/customers with his incessant leftist drivel. I quit listening to his radio show because of it.

When it first opened,I would of have liked to visit KSBar/Grill if I got back to Lexington. Not now. His constant barrage on all things conservative just got tiresome.

He has every right to voice his opinion. I have every right to spend or not to spend money/time in helping him with his business endeavors.

If I was a businessman, I would choose not to alienate a substantial portion of my potential customers.
 

kl40504_rivals

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The conversation was never about Ryan. The guy is stuck 10' up Matt's *** and just agrees with everything he says, but that doesn't mesn the show sucks. It consistently gets the best ratings and that's because KY fans care. It’s another example that shows how passionate the BBN is.

Cal loves it when we're cheering him on, but is mocking us when we call him out for what he's foing to our program.

The BBN giveth and the BBN can taketh away. There's a reason UK can pay Cal 9 million a year and it certainly isn't because Cal is a great in game coach.
What is Cal foing to the program?
 

Bluesbrother

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Jones is a politician (wannabe) who knows that Cal has to change and win back a large portion of the fan base, but yet, as a businessman Jones does his best to drive away 60+% of his potential listeners/customers with his incessant leftist drivel. I quit listening to his radio show because of it.

When it first opened,I would of have liked to visit KSBar/Grill if I got back to Lexington. Not now. His constant barrage on all things conservative just got tiresome.

He has every right to voice his opinion. I have every right to spend or not to spend money/time in helping him with his business endeavors.

If I was a businessman, I would choose not to alienate a substantial portion of my potential customers.
I couldn't agree more. Jones thinks of himself as a businessman but he is not for the simple reason you mention...he drives away potential patrons who would naturally want to gather with other UK fans to follow the Cats. He willfully chooses to inject his divisive political views into all things UK sports, when he can, because he has a "captured" audience. UK fans aren't as stupid as he is about this and have, many times, asked him to stop. His choice is to refuse this reasonable request and to do so with malice. His actions have consequences, at least, as far as I'm concerned because I regrettably refuse to enjoy the company of other UK fans at KS Bar. I won't. He has no respect for anyone who differs with him in this regard. Sound familiar in todays America? It's truly a national sickness in a diseased culture of failure brought about by narcissistic despots, like Matt Jones. The shiny turd in the UK punchbowl and anything else he touches.
 
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notFromhere

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I thought getting talent was a major responsibility for a head coach. UK was out-talented all this year so I guess we should give Cal a pass for this year.

Lol. You know better. Recruiting is only part of it.

Cal wasn't out-talented this year. He was out-coached. He had talent but didn't develop it. Had players but couldn't figure out how to play to their strengths. Gtfoh with the bullsht already.
 

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Go log on to your other account real fast and agree with yourself lmao
Or argue with himself like the other thread, for show. Like he was going to fool us lol. It's a shame a mod deleted most of it. Mentioning mods, you'd think they might ban him. But, no.
 

notFromhere

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Jones is a politician (wannabe) who knows that Cal has to change and win back a large portion of the fan base, but yet, as a businessman Jones does his best to drive away 60+% of his potential listeners/customers with his incessant leftist drivel. I quit listening to his radio show because of it.

When it first opened,I would of have liked to visit KSBar/Grill if I got back to Lexington. Not now. His constant barrage on all things conservative just got tiresome.

He has every right to voice his opinion. I have every right to spend or not to spend money/time in helping him with his business endeavors.

If I was a businessman, I would choose not to alienate a substantial portion of my potential customers.

So we agree then.
 
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kl40504_rivals

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Lol. You know better. Recruiting is only part of it.

Cal wasn't out-talented this year. He was out-coached. He had talent but didn't develop it. Had players but couldn't figure out how to play to their strengths. Gtfoh with the bullsht already.
No point guard. Out-talented.
 

bnewt

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no offense, no defense
never tried to switch up anything
could have pressed
could have pounded the ball inside
instead he just let boston throw up bricks

program has gone down since 2015
when cal showed the world how good of a bench coach he is
 

kyjeff1

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Well if you listen to his show you know that he is smarmy and talks down to others all the time. And has an air of superiority that is pretty irritating. And he frequently challenges others when they say things that are factually incorrect, often in a very denigrating way. And to be honest, I could give two s**** about what you think. If you think a Kentucky sports media figure, who has lived in the state all his life, shouldn't know what conference Western Kentucky is in, then you're as dumb as he is. GFY.
You sound more and more butthurt every time you post about Matt's show.

Did you read what you posted? You hate the guy, because he's "smarmy" and " challenges others when they say things that are factually incorrect"… ..uhhhhhhhh yeahhhhh, that's what radio show host do. What am I missing here?

Tell you what, maybe you just shouldn't listen to his show. You seem to just personally hate Matt Jones. Your reasons for hating him, makes no sense. You hate a radio host, because he behaves like a radio host.

The bottom line is, the guy hit the nail on the head on Friday's show. I definitely agree with everything he and Ryan said, because they are the exact same things I have been saying for years.
 
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wildcatdon

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I think you missed the point. Cal is not good enough at bench coaching to win without extraordinary talent. Doesn’t mean he or anyone else will necessarily win with great talent.
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He just out coached Pitino 80% of the time while Pitino was at Louisville.
He never out coached Pitino. His players were just better than what Rick had.
 
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You are correct. If Barnhart doesn't get rid of this ***-clown, the fans will. He will be hated by the best and most knowledgeable fans in college BB. Do you think that is something he desires? Whether it is desired or not, he will get hammered. Cal was handed the keys to the greatest BB program in the country and look what he's done with it. Cal is twisted and unfixable, IMO. He needs to go yesterday.

The one and done is over. It's gotten stale over the years because the college landscape has changed. Some want to blame it on the Covid situation, but as you can see, Cal has been butting heads with the fans this year. He can say whatever he wants, but his demeanor towards the fans is unacceptable. The man is getting 9 million a year. What does he expect us to do with a horrible 9-16 record? Just sit back and accept it? Uh, hell no, we won't accept it and we'll never accept his excuses either when it comes to the greatest program in history.
 
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TankedCat

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Matt and his guys did have a great point about Cal - In March, Cal still hadn't decided on a rotation.

We have a point guard, thru no fault of his own that is struggling and I'm being kind, going 0-fer on multiple games , and we have a senior veteran that Cal decides to go with the last 2 games of the season?

People say Cal didn't forget to coach? Cal crashed our program this year because he is so invested in playing his start players.

That isn't good coaching, matter of fact its incompetent coaching. He essentially did a hail mary on the last game of the season.

If he believes he did everything he could to win this year, then he needs to be coaching at some community college somewhere, because that's the performance he turned in this year.

And the reality is, that's the performance he's been turning in for awhile, and he lost the ability to bring in and retain players that can overcome his coaching deficiencies.

Cal said after 10 years he'd be done here. He knows it, everyone knows it. But he isn't going to walk away from that paycheck until it becomes unbearable for him.