His defense is below the primary players , do you really think Cal has a three point assasin the plays lock down defense but doesn't play him . Keep sucking those summer reports
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I keep going back to the comment Cal made after the UCLA game. He said he was disappointed in the way the players subbed for themselves. So, if it is up to the players to sub for themselves, and one of them decides he is going to stay in the game, then someone, like Mulder, is not going to get much or any playing time. I am bothered by this Cal comment. Why would he trust these young players to sub for themselves; and Cal not intervene? Go Cats!!
Keep pumping the bs narrative that Cal sits better players in favor of draft candidates . Same Yahoo!'s labeled John Hood a sharp shooter , this is unbelievable . [laughing]
Unlike you, I trust what I see, I don't adopt others opinions. From my observations his defense is ahead of Monks.
So now you're comparing Hood to Mulder? Hood was given a lot of chances and proved he wasn't good enough to play here and was content with his role. Mulder has averaged 8 ppg, shooting 47 percent from three on 15-32 shots and is shooting almost 50 percent from the field in 11 mpg. There is no comparison there.
If Mulder doesn't get in late when we're behind to teams like UCLA, Indiana or any elite three point shooting team we have little to no chance coming back because trading twos for threes doesn't work and Hawkins isn't going to get many defensive stops against top level guards, he never has and can be a liability himself on defense in the half court when bigger guards shoot over him with ease, against UCLA Mulder would've been the better option on defense against their guards.
Ima guess we see Mulder in every game going forward. He is a senior who can shoot. If he gives up twos but replaces them with three's I'm good. Play some zone if your worried about his defense imo. Sometimes a coach can be too freaking stubborn.
Mulder has great size for a 2 guard and has a career overseas for sure. He is future professional player. He needs to play meaningful minutes.
Mulder has great size for a 2 guard and has a career overseas for sure. He is future professional player. He needs to play meaningful minutes.
I love great shooters. There I said it. We've had our share.
Ask UCLA what they think of shooters.
I think we have 2-3 on this team in Monk, Willis and Mulder. (Of course, you actually have to play to be a shooter so maybe we have 2.) The key is getting the ball to those guys in the right situation to shoot it. And make sure guys like Willis actually shoot the ball instead of picking their nose or passing up shots.
I know Cal is all about defense. I get it and having a great defense can cause harm. But you still have to have those really good shooters to win it all, IMO. We have them. Just have to get them going, IMO.
Ask UCLA what they think of shooters.
I think we have 2-3 on this team in Monk, Willis and Mulder. (Of course, you actually have to play to be a shooter so maybe we have 2.) The key is getting the ball to those guys in the right situation to shoot it. And make sure guys like Willis actually shoot the ball instead of picking their nose or passing up shots.
I know Cal is all about defense. I get it and having a great defense can cause harm. But you still have to have those really good shooters to win it all, IMO. We have them. Just have to get them going, IMO.
I'd be pissed too. UCLA has five players that hit better than 40 percent from behind the arc and our sharpshooter is stuck on the bench.:grimace:
Maybe this UK team can win it all and tweet, "see, we are better than 2015."
I'd normally agree with Cal on this one, but I just don't see the merit in playing Wenyen ahead of Mulder on this one. The only aspect Wenyen really brings to the table is offensive rebounding, and he may actually play worse defense than Mulder because he is so unbelievably slow laterally. Mulder may not be the offensive rebounder WG is, but he is probably our best defensive rebounding guard. Don't really see a reason for his benching unless he's in the doghouse.I'd be pissed too. UCLA has five players that hit better than 40 percent from behind the arc and our sharpshooter is stuck on the bench.:grimace:
Maybe this UK team can win it all and tweet, "see, we are better than 2015."
This is a stupid post. Mulder's defense is no worse than Hawkins or Gabriel or several others. Like another poster said, play zone for a few minutes to buy some time and maybe confuse the opponent. Cal is way too stubborn and set in his ways and it has cost us some games in the past. if you dont score you wont win and Mulder can provide scoring and rebounding from his guard position.
Wrong...When you're down big with 5-7min to go you have to have 3 pointers
Yeah, the problem was no one on the team was stopping anyone in that game. Cal needs better in-game adjustments. In that particular game, it became obvious we were just going to have to outscore UCLA. We couldn't stop them regardless who we had in the lineup. It became clear that we weren't getting stops, so yes, we did need scoring. At that point, you need to go with your best scorers/shooters. Mulder could've possibly helped in that situation, but we'll never know because he never saw the floor. Bad decision IMO.
You still have to stop the other team, playing Mulder probably would've resulted in 105 point
I don't like this either. Players often call to be subbed when they're tired, but it's the coaches job to make substitutions based on situational basketball, matchups, and how well players are performing. He can't leave that up to the players. He is sure as hell not shy about jerking Willis out when he makes a mistake.
So the coach that brought us back from the grave , won a title and took us to multiple f4s needs better in game adjustments because we lost our first game of the season . Reasonable and not overeactionary at all .
Ehh, I think it's a fair question to ask at this point. If Cal is being honest, saying players let themselves sub in, then why was Mulder not able to sub in for Monk/Fox/Briscoe? You mean to tell me a seasoned vet like Mulder didn't want to play that games? Did he really not want to? Or did those freshman/sophomores have final say? Not sure I agree with that call.
Cal has his goals and he has his brand. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to keep his top recruits in the big games 95% of the time. I think you can satisfy both goals with this: Getting players to the NBA AND winning games. But sometimes it backfires.. UCLA, playing our top recruits (for whatever reason, maybe none) backfired.
So you're saying Cal's in-game adjustments during the UCLA game were fine and nothing could have possibly been improved upon?
I like Wenyen a lot, and I think the reason he plays is if you project him outward, he has as much upside as anybody on this team. Tremendous body, skilled, high motor, good shooting touch. That's manna.
What he struggles with (mightily) is keeping guys in front of him who want to line drive him. But I can't see a situation where this team hits its ceiling and Wenyen Gabriel isn't involved in that. He's played eight college games splitting minutes with a senior; the player we see now I really believe will be a pale imitation of the one we see down the road.
Hawkins played 16 minutes and shot 50% from the field and 50% from the 3-point line. Brisco was 0-5 from 3, clearly you do not know what you are talking about.
If you have complaints about Briscoe and his minutes along with the amount he shot then you have a complaint. But hawkins played only 16 minutes. :flush:
I hate 1 thing about this comment another with the board in general -- ITS A FREAKING MESSAGE BOARD TO DISCUSS THE GAME ! We lost , Cal certainly didnt have his best day coaching or preparing , that doesnt mean we 1) know more than Cal , we are just being fans - we talk about the game 2) we want to go back to Tubby ball. Several times when talking about our beloved Cats some moron suggest " well just go to Memphis and root for Tubby " . Here is a newsflash , just because SOME thought Mulder should have got minutes or Cal yanks Willis around like a yo yo or favors certain players doesnt mean they want another coach . Its just discussion of the game and our program . Not everyone that disagrees with you is a freaking troll or a hater .
Re: The 38-1 Tweet
Matt and Drew have mentioned on the radio that during the 2014-15 season, they looked at their phone in the middle of the night and saw this tweet from someone at UK and was like, "Yeah, this isn't good." I think Matt said he went back to bed thinking he'd have to deal with this the next day. Then, the tweet was gone and no one has ever mentioned it. They have been super secretive and given no hints about it. On the Periscope is the first time I've heard Matt link it to the 38-1 team. They have given no information to where I even have a guess of what it was. But, they both act like if the tweet had been seen by more people it would have been a bad situation.
Matt and Drew have mentioned on the radio that during the 2014-15 season, they looked at their phone in the middle of the night and saw this tweet from someone at UK and was like, "Yeah, this isn't good." I think Matt said he went back to bed thinking he'd have to deal with this the next day. Then, the tweet was gone and no one has ever mentioned it. They have been super secretive and given no hints about it. On the Periscope is the first time I've heard Matt link it to the 38-1 team. They have given no information to where I even have a guess of what it was. But, they both act like if the tweet had been seen by more people it would have been a bad situation.
Actually, Cal said he learned from the game and he could have done some things differently. Go Cats!!
Yep, you don't have to be a chef to know the steak is burnt
That's exactly why we needed defense. Geez, not that hard to understand that he would've just added to the problem. Like Xception said, we can score and score in bunches but we needed players to make stops on the other end. Now, I wouldve like to have seen Mulder late in the game when it was obvious that we had to have 3's and have them quickly. I think he should've definitely played then but I get why he didn't before that and it's because of his defense.
Is this a joke? Monk just had 5 steals last game. He's been a monster in the passing lanes.
Your observations need work.
Also consider that you barely ever see Mulder play defense, and Cal sees it every day.
But we had a rim protector that year!
That makes a HUGE difference and we don't have that luxury this year. We can't have guys constantly getting beat off the dribble. With players like Davis, Noel, and WCS, you can play guys like Lamb easily. Cal would want dribblers to get in the lane when he had those rim protectors cause it usually led to a block or turnover. Its completely difference when you don't have that kind of player.
You think Cal is playing NBA prospects over good players, yet he played Hawkins and Humphries over SKJ?
Some of you are too transparent.
If you can't tell that John Calipari is maniacal about winning, and a complete psychopath of a competitor, then you're willfully ignorant. He says the things he says to get the best players, and he lets those elite players grow because he's trying to win a national title.
The stuff he says is lip service. You can't take 10 McD's AA's and tell them to sacrifice for each other's dreams (read: build loaded teams capable of title runs) and then not have their backs or sacrifice for them. It's why he fell on the sword for Skal. It's why he protected Ryan Harrow. It's why he punishes in house.
But taking his words, twisting them, and then trying to use them literally with stuff like "NBA draft picks are more important than titles," shows you have the critical thinking skills of a middle schooler, at best. They're means to and end, and anyone who hasn't caught on to that yet clearly doesn't want to understand because it doesn't fit their argument.
Some of you are too transparent.
If you can't tell that John Calipari is maniacal about winning, and a complete psychopath of a competitor, then you're willfully ignorant. He says the things he says to get the best players, and he lets those elite players grow because he's trying to win a national title.
The stuff he says is lip service. You can't take 10 McD's AA's and tell them to sacrifice for each other's dreams (read: build loaded teams capable of title runs) and then not have their backs or sacrifice for them. It's why he fell on the sword for Skal. It's why he protected Ryan Harrow. It's why he punishes in house.
But taking his words, twisting them, and then trying to use them literally with stuff like "NBA draft picks are more important than titles," shows you have the critical thinking skills of a middle schooler, at best. They're means to and end, and anyone who hasn't caught on to that yet clearly doesn't want to understand because it doesn't fit their argument.
Who was our big rim protector Lamb's freshman year, Harrelson right? Now Jorts became a good player but I don't remember him being a great rim protector, but you don't think Lamb plays his sophomore year if we don't land Davis? Who knows maybe you're right? Lamb fell into our lap after Pastnor stole Will Barton from us, it's not like he was Cal's first choice anyway. If we didn't miss out on Barton and lost Lamb I highly doubt we make back to back final fours but it's all speculative now. Cal always goes after the great athlete over the highly ranked shooter. I never had a problem with that before, but these days I'm not liking it too much.
I don't see playing Mulder over Gabriel but I sure as hell would have played him over Briscoe at least some. Watching him clan 5 three pointers and step on the baseline 3 times, while still playing bad defense was not a good look, IMO.
I agree with joneslab that Gabriel and his upside are through the roof. But I would still start Willis over him simply because we need his shooting. Gabriel will still get tons of minutes as long as he rebounds and learns to play defense. And his shot is not broken. He can hit the jumper.
I agree with joneslab that Gabriel and his upside are through the roof. But I would still start Willis over him simply because we need his shooting. Gabriel will still get tons of minutes as long as he rebounds and learns to play defense. And his shot is not broken. He can hit the jumper.