Mathis
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Maybe he transfers and we can replace him with a grad transfer who can shoot the 3.
11 shots in 18 minutes, 4 fouls
only two less than JY...why this is allowed to go on is beyond me.
its an indictment of Pikiell and the coaching staff that one they have allowed Mathis to make the same mistakes repeatedly and two that this deep in the season they developed no other option
only two less than JY...why this is allowed to go on is beyond me.
its an indictment of Pikiell and the coaching staff that one they have allowed Mathis to make the same mistakes repeatedly and two that this deep in the season they developed no other option
Mathis has been an enigma. Two years ago, I thought he was going to be a star. His shooting form was never very good, but he used to be a good slasher, but no more.
Sorry guys. Can’t talk out of both sides of your mouth
do you play guys who give effort or do you continue to give minutes to guys that mope and dont defend.
montez was working hard.
I’d rather see someone else like a Mag Jones Oskar, but the disappointing thing is those guys aren’t ready.....which really concerns me.
this game screamed giving them minutes, huge indictment they weren’t options.
do you play guys who give effort or do you continue to give minutes to guys that mope and dont defend.
montez was working hard.
I’d rather see someone else like a Mag Jones Oskar, but the disappointing thing is those guys aren’t ready.....which really concerns me.
this game screamed giving them minutes, huge indictment they weren’t options.
Agree..this is scary for future..very scary
I sense a Northwestern drop off unfortunately and another 4 year build
So let me get this straight we are mad at the kid who helped get us back in the game?
I would start Mathis tomorrow and have Caleb coming off the bench. For some reason Caleb gets a pass on all his misses. Yet when we were really good this year Mathis played a much bigger role
I would start Mathis tomorrow and have Caleb coming off the bench. For some reason Caleb gets a pass on all his misses. Yet when we were really good this year Mathis played a much bigger role
I would have liked to see more Mathis today and less RHJ and Mulcahy.
Mathis was actually playing pretty good D, giving us energy and trying to attack the basket. He did have some bad misses but we had other issues today more concerning than his play.
Mathis was actually playing pretty good D, giving us energy and trying to attack the basket. He did have some bad misses but we had other issues today more concerning than his play.
did he really get us back in the game...we were really never in the game....do you want him to go 6-22 in 30 minutes because thats what you will get.
yay Mathis made a couple of baskets, all of sudden he is a plus...huh? His decision making his still horrific and he is bricking 3 points that are wide wide open..as is Caleb
Paul doesn’t shoot. McConnell was 0 for. Ron was 0 for until Mathis offensive rebound late in game (maybe under 2mins?)
Mathis played good D and gave better offense than Ron and McConnell.
butnyeah pike has no leash on anyone in this team hes lost
Mathis played good D and gave better offense than Ron and McConnell.
butnyeah pike has no leash on anyone in this team hes lost
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sorry key moments of the game with sub patterns are tanking us every single game, its like clockwork,
i would go as far as to say Im done blaming Mathis..this is a Pikiell issue, he needs to own what is going on
Mathis isn't playing well, is out of control and turn over prone. But he does give real effort and plays D. He's not at the top of the list of issues with this team. We need to start with our so called stars.
And some of his misses should count as two misses like the open three that nearly slammed the underside of the backboard about a foot to the left of the rim.
Mathis isnt the only thing wrong obviously, but the issue with him is he is making the same mistakes over and over and over again.
So while Harper and Geo may not be stepping up, the criticism of them is we know they can so its frustrating they are not. With Mathis we know exactly what we are going to get. The Purdue game was the aberration. He can help but unfortunately he is being brought into the game and he does his patented move every time where he is sprawled on the floor. In addition teams are now giving him that 3 point shot because he isnt even hitting iron
So while Harper and Geo may not be stepping up, the criticism of them is we know they can so its frustrating they are not. With Mathis we know exactly what we are going to get. The Purdue game was the aberration. He can help but unfortunately he is being brought into the game and he does his patented move every time where he is sprawled on the floor. In addition teams are now giving him that 3 point shot because he isnt even hitting iron
Do not know what game you watched as most of Tez’s shots were good shots and going hard to the hole. Wish he would make an and one one of these days. Pike had the wrong guys in the game most of the game. Paul was almost terrible today and he finally took him out and we came from 15 down to 47-41. Then he had the nerve to take Jacob out and put Paul back in. It was criminal. I love Caleb but he did very little today and should not have played that much. Ron was a total no show but why put him back with 4 and a half to go. Tez had one of his better games in the last 10. He was attacking under control , hit his foul shots. He missed his 2 early threes in the first half but at least he took them , which he stopped doing for the last 8-9 games. Tez was averaging 14 + when we were winning and he was starting . He has not adapted to coming off the bench and mentally it has been so bad that he couldn’t even hit uncontested layups. But our offense needs points and Montez gives you a threat. When Paul and Caleb do not try to score or their shots do not go down (Caleb) Tez has to play. God knows we could use 2-3 threes a game out of him now like we were getting earlier.
yeah i guess you were not paying attention to his bricks from 3 wide open, one not even hitting rim
I have been down on MM...but reality is we had Caleb play 30 minutes and only shut the ball 5 times and Paul played 29 minutes and only shot the ball 6 times. Nearly 30% of the on the floor minutes. They need to have 16-18 shots at the hoop...not 11
cant score ifyou can’t find or make yourself open to score
at some point ...someone has to be a willing shooter and scorer
I said at the beginning of the year that our receipe was the Maryland and Purdue games Of last year games where Jacob and Montez would join ron and geo as double digit scorers...
caleb and Paul remain pieces but the number of games they score to match their minutes isn’t many ...
we need Tez and young to score ...if they don’t ...we don’t have enough offense to win .
period
cant score ifyou can’t find or make yourself open to score
at some point ...someone has to be a willing shooter and scorer
I said at the beginning of the year that our receipe was the Maryland and Purdue games Of last year games where Jacob and Montez would join ron and geo as double digit scorers...
caleb and Paul remain pieces but the number of games they score to match their minutes isn’t many ...
we need Tez and young to score ...if they don’t ...we don’t have enough offense to win .
period
I don’t disagree with you here(though others also bricked tonight and we’re not taking about them, maybe not as bad) just want to point out how players are viewed differently by some as yesterday somebody was pointing to McConnell air ball three being rebounded by Paul as a check in calebs column of why he should get minutes over Mathis
Lotta truth here. On the one hand, we have a couple guys (Caleb, Paul....and Paul specifically) who are not looking for a shot and any semblance of an offense stops when the ball touches their hands, making it very easy for the D to recover and get set. On the other hand, we have guys who are either out of control throwing up bricks/driving into trees (Tez) or in the worst shooting slump ever (Ron).
Combine all this together and we are a REALLY easy team to defend right now. And Maryland has been playing above average defense lately, so today is the end result.
Good lord. Debating tez shots versus Paul shots. Lol. How about our leaders lead and make some frigging shots?
He made a couple lucky baskets as he just drove blindly 1 on 3 and again does not pass the ball how about his wide open 3 where he didn't even hit the rim!!!
Not quite ready YET to go there. Myles and Eugene are good reasons why.
This is what has been so frustrating about him. The reason him and Young got pulled from the starting five was because back in January when this team couldn’t get a win to save their lives, the two of them were repeatedly putting their head down and driving to the basket against multiple defenders and taking awful contested shots.
To Young’s credit, he seems to have figured it out, despite him still making some wtf plays from time to time. Tez is just continuing to do the same things over and over again.
I don’t think Tez stood out as poor in this game (so many players weren’t good). What we were trying (needed) to do to have a chance in the end (pressing and speed up the game) played to Tez strengths. That’s why he was on the floor late in the game. It was one of the few decisions I understood. Wish we had moved to it earlier.
Since we still can’t buy a transition basket in non-garbage time I’m not sure what some of you are hoping to see from Mathis though as a major minute player in our regular offense. He simply isn’t good in the halfcourt sets and never was (sans one Purdue game). That was a statistical anomaly. His strong games normally have been games where he’s able to beat opponents up the court. It’s not the rotations (we try the kitchen sink - for whatever reason we can’t play the fast style anymore - gets ugly in a hurry when we try). Maybe if we applied full court pressure on defense more regularly that would spark Tez offense if we could start turning people over and scoring. If we were to shift to that style, Id have no problem seeing him on the floor more, but it would likely be with Caleb too. Some of you are really blind to what he brings on defense even when he plays poor offensively.
RHJ played a very poor game on both sides of the ball today. It doesn’t matter than he put 6 points on the score board (mostly in garbage time). He was not only ineffective on offense but cost several turnovers at critical points in the game, and couldn’t keep up with his man on defense. That’s why I thought Mathis deserved the minutes he got from him late. We were better on defense going small. When RHJ shifted to the 5 vs the 4 he actually played a little better.
Since we still can’t buy a transition basket in non-garbage time I’m not sure what some of you are hoping to see from Mathis though as a major minute player in our regular offense. He simply isn’t good in the halfcourt sets and never was (sans one Purdue game). That was a statistical anomaly. His strong games normally have been games where he’s able to beat opponents up the court. It’s not the rotations (we try the kitchen sink - for whatever reason we can’t play the fast style anymore - gets ugly in a hurry when we try). Maybe if we applied full court pressure on defense more regularly that would spark Tez offense if we could start turning people over and scoring. If we were to shift to that style, Id have no problem seeing him on the floor more, but it would likely be with Caleb too. Some of you are really blind to what he brings on defense even when he plays poor offensively.
RHJ played a very poor game on both sides of the ball today. It doesn’t matter than he put 6 points on the score board (mostly in garbage time). He was not only ineffective on offense but cost several turnovers at critical points in the game, and couldn’t keep up with his man on defense. That’s why I thought Mathis deserved the minutes he got from him late. We were better on defense going small. When RHJ shifted to the 5 vs the 4 he actually played a little better.
Exactly - Paul and Montez are complimentary players. It’s about Ron and Geo not performing that is killing the team. If they are playing well, everything else falls into line.