Mathis NIL

[SuperBigFan]

If we won a soccer championship, would anyone care?

Oh god...don't get soccer fan going.

 

[RedCap_rivals330392]

If we won a soccer championship, would anyone care?

I believe Nebraska fans will enthusiastically support ANY sport that consistently is a winner. That's the nature of the state and its fans. But a brand new sport does need to become a winner before the support is there.

 

[king_kong_]

I would imagine that a lot of the "lower-tier" programs will lobby for some kind of salary cap for NIL. But I'm not sure how the NCAA would enforce it, if the money is not coming from the universities directly.

So what's more likely to happen, is the top 30 or so programs with the most $$$ will eventually break away from the NCAA and form their own league. While the rest of college football will essentially operate as a Minor League System. The "Major" League teams will poach the best players from the Minor League, and the players that can't hack it in the Major League, will transfer down to the Minor League.

this is literally describing exactly how college football already operates, and has for a while.

the ncaa has not managed the college football national championship for decades. used to be 10 conferences had a seat at the table. now, it's 5.

the top 60 or so programs with the most money already have broken away, and lower tier programs are already developing talent on their behalf while being both viewed and regularly discussed as being minor league. players transfer up and down daily.

your scenario is already reality, and the product is getting better because of it IMO (and even if we aren't).

 

[Mrs.Jeans15]

Honestly I don't think this changes the general fan pressure at all. Fans always have been very vocal about criticizing players and will continue to do so IMO. Now there might be some pressure from the individuals/businesses putting up the NIL dollars but that criticism will be private.

True but not the social media pressure about to come their way.

Its worth it though

 

[nostromo78]

I believe Nebraska fans will enthusiastically support ANY sport that consistently is a winner. That's the nature of the state and its fans. But a brand new sport does need to become a winner before the support is there.

I would love to see a mens soccer team. I love watching my kids teams play and I think the games would be a blast!

 

[Redscarlet]

I would love to see a mens soccer team. I love watching my kids teams play and I think the games would be a blast!

 

[huskat]

I believe Nebraska fans will enthusiastically support ANY sport that consistently is a winner. That's the nature of the state and its fans. But a brand new sport does need to become a winner before the support is there.

I should have added a smiley face. It was a joke, poking at the one soccer fan on here.

 

[Headcard]

Pure SLEAZE.

I wonder if such obvious SLEAZE will slow this board down on hurling mud at other Big Ten teams.

For those of you keeping score at home. Rape and racism are cool, NIL is the devil.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Cannot wait to read about all the train wrecks these NIL deals will have caused...years from now you'll hear about how mom or dad or some other sibling, siphoned off a huge chunk and now they don't talk anymore.....all the cars the player will spring for, for his parents and or possee, the point spread shaving sure to come about, the girls who get preggos on purpose from the kid who got a large NIL deal, the long lost parent who suddenly shows up out of the blue when the kid they abandoned signs a big deal...plus many others I haven't even thought of yet...like maybe, kids leaving before their degree is complete because they think 100K is a million that will last forever and when it doesn't the degree doesn't happen. This has disaster written all over it

Read about it??? That will be a Netflix series!

 

[mavsker_rivals]

I heard hes gonna be a long horn

 

[Boiler_B]

One thing no one has mentioned yet (which is not shocking) is that why would TX even need to come up with a better offer, or even the same amount of money as NU does to get him to sign with them? None of you are even considering this which I find fascinating.

He is a Native Texan,
His folks live less than 10 miles from the campus
A TX degree as a former football player in the state of TX is going to make him a lot more money in the state of TX over his lifetime than an NU degree will if he decides to live in TX closer to his fam.
TX is a top 40 academic institution while NU is ranked in the 130's...
His former coach Patterson has a position over at TX right now...
He dreamed of going to TX out of HS, but they didnt recruit him.

Does any of the above scream that TX would even need to come up with the same type of cash to match what NU would offer in the first place? No...lol It doesnt.

I bet TX could get away with just upping their original NIL offer (which was probably all he was looking to get them to do in the first place which is why he took the NE visit) AKA to get TX to offer more NIL money.

I bet TX could get him for 350K vs NU's 500K...or 400K vs 500K...(If the NU 500K is even an accurate figure).

 

[Boiler_B]

College football stopped being amateur a long time ago....when coaches started getting multi-million dollar contracts and buyouts, when programs started accepted multi-million dollar corporate sponsors, when boosters started donating tens of millions to build opulent facilities. The only difference now is that the players are starting to get a lot bigger piece of the pie. How many millions have been spent here just to buy out bad coaches? It's ridiculous.

It will be interesting to see if salaries for assistant coaches and staff members actually start to go down, since the boosters can just buy players now.

I dont think thats when it stopped being amateur. Its really a few years ago when they decided to give all these kids monthly cash stipends on top of all their other stuff that their scholarships pay for. Thats when it truly stopped being amateur cuz they were literally getting paid, it was tangible income they were being paid for not doing anything extra to earn the money. That means they were being paid. Amateur stopped that day.

Now they are paying them even more from the teams college funds just to meet academic requirements (which is just basically remaining eligible)..
And remember all of these kids that all qualified for all these Pell grants and all these other financial aid deals..are all still getting that stuff on top of that cash stipend, and on top of that NIL monies...Even the kids that dont get more than a few NIL bucks a year are still making a good amount of money to live off of, they are certainly not poor college students..

 

[Bigred_b1624]

Pure SLEAZE.

I wonder if such obvious SLEAZE will slow this board down on hurling mud at other Big Ten teams.

Yikes, imagine publicly supporting regular rape and child rape...disgusting

 

[Boiler_B]

I agree it is time that the players get a share of all the money that is being thrown around. Not sure how I feel about everyone cutting their own deal as it could impact team dynamics (but that's also prevalent on pro sports teams as well).

I did hear an interesting discussion this morning that I had not really thought about. For these players that are getting big money deals, how will that change the "criticism" that may be warranted when they play poorly. Mike Gundy can no longer say, " leave the kids alone...come after me...I'm a man!" If kids want to get paid (and treated like adults) they will have to take the bad with the good. They are going to lose some protection that has heretofore been in place. "Hey Adrian (or Casey), you threw three picks today. Do you think your NIL sponsors are getting their money's worth?"

All these kids started getting cash stipends monthly on top of their scholarships a few years ago..plus the Pell grants and all the other grants they were getting before.

At that point in time.(forget the NIL money).they were not free from criticism..just like the Starbucks employee who screws up your coffee order is not free from criticism..

I mean i usually rip on the coaches and very little on the players myself, but if people do feel the need to be critical of players here and there, you should have had free reign to do that as soon as they were getting those monthly stipend checks a few years ago..and they just bumped those up to even more money recently..

These are not poor college kids anymore even the ones not getting NIL..

 

[stevetaylor9]

Hope he chooses NU - but am hearing that the 500k figure is greatly exaggerated and was leaked in order for the university to save face when he chooses Texas (thus the “at least we tried narrative”) hearing Nebraska couldn’t come close to what Texas could offer let alone 500k

 

[Walleye 1]

Hope he chooses NU - but am hearing that the 500k figure is greatly exaggerated and was leaked in order for the university to save face when he chooses Texas (thus the “at least we tried narrative”) hearing Nebraska couldn’t come close to what Texas could offer let alone 500k

Haha I'm sure dipshit

 

[Bigred_b1624]

Hope he chooses NU - but am hearing that the 500k figure is greatly exaggerated and was leaked in order for the university to save face when he chooses Texas (thus the “at least we tried narrative”) hearing Nebraska couldn’t come close to what Texas could offer let alone 500k

You didn't hear anything, just stop.

 

[stevetaylor9]

Haha I'm sure dipshit

it’s a hard pill to swallow but when it comes to NIL funding we are much closer to Purdue and Iowa than we are any of the other blue blood programs

Nebraska is a very frugal state

 

[Bigred_b1624]

it’s a hard pill to swallow but when it comes to NIL funding we are much closer to Purdue and Iowa than we are any of the other blue blood programs

Nebraska is a very frugal state

Wrong

 

[timothynelson53]

I've heard of a "take no prisoners" approach but a "take no *****" approach is a new one on me! It really doesn't come off as all that intimidating.... if you take no ***** eventually you end up shitting your pants.

Or exploding.

 

[oldjar07]

This is precisely what the critics of NIL predicted would happen. You combine this with the easing of transfer rules and you have a perfect storm for college football to essentially start a process of "free agency" that is going to be its undoing. Because the point above is exactly right. If am I Robinson or Hutmacher I am going to threaten going to the portal unless somebody ponies up big bucks. And once the money starts flowing to various players but not to others how does that create a "team" mentality.

This whole thing just makes me want to puke and leaves me wondering if College football is even worth following anymore. This is not the same sport I grew up loving as a boy in Lincoln. And this is not false nostalgia for some ******** rosy past. It is a simple observation that college football is moving toward becoming professionalized and not amateur. And perhaps that is fair and the players should get a piece of the pie. But in so doing it is now a professional sport with a whole different tone and tenor. And I hate it.

Yes exactly, some of us saw exactly what would happen when this was being discussed a few years ago. Now we're seeing the results.

 

[phoenix4nu]

Hope he chooses NU - but am hearing that the 500k figure is greatly exaggerated and was leaked in order for the university to save face when he chooses Texas (thus the “at least we tried narrative”) hearing Nebraska couldn’t come close to what Texas could offer let alone 500k

Why hasn't this clown been banned yet?

 

[stevetaylor9]

Wrong

Nebraska needs to shift their focus to working on the goal of being occasionally competitive in the big ten west with other similar institutions. The days of being nationally competitive on any regular basis are over. What Nebraska considers to be a great NIL offer other big time programs can find in their couch cushions.
The amount of NIL money available at a place like the university of Utah (PAC12 champions) dwarfs what Nebraska could hope to generate

worry about trying to compete with Iowa, Wisconsin and Minnesota who are able to maximize their talent

 

[Bigred_b1624]

Nebraska needs to shift their focus to working on the goal of being occasionally competitive in the big ten west with other similar institutions. The days of being nationally competitive on any regular basis are over. What Nebraska considers to be a great NIL offer other big time programs can find in their couch cushions.
The amount of NIL money available at a place like the university of Utah (PAC12 champions) dwarfs what Nebraska could hope to generate

worry about trying to compete with Iowa, Wisconsin and Minnesota who are able to maximize their talent

Wrong

 

[TheWayITellEm]

Yikes, imagine publicly supporting regular rape and child rape...disgusting

You support rape and child rape. You support Michigan, Michigan State, & others having to pay hundreds-of-millions of dollars...which is essentially funding lying & rape.

I'm against this.

 

[Bigred_b1624]

You support rape and child rape. You support Michigan, Michigan State, & others having to pay hundreds-of-millions of dollars...which is essentially funding lying & rape.

I'm against this.

The f you talking about you weirdo? I think all b1g fans(not Nebraska fans) should be publicly executed for being rape fans...you are all subhuman trash!

 

[Yantzeee]

If other teams start buying Minnesota's key players, I will definitely be done watching even a minute of my team or any college football.

If it happens like that...you'd have to be an absolute fool to keep watching. But we'll see how it goes.

Or you have to be a red blooded American/ capitalist. Minnesota has the Vikings that does that. Nebraska has the Huskers that does that. Don’t hate

the big fish eat the little ones. Not my problem If your small

 

[Yantzeee]

Nebraska needs to shift their focus to working on the goal of being occasionally competitive in the big ten west with other similar institutions. The days of being nationally competitive on any regular basis are over. What Nebraska considers to be a great NIL offer other big time programs can find in their couch cushions.
The amount of NIL money available at a place like the university of Utah (PAC12 champions) dwarfs what Nebraska could hope to generate

worry about trying to compete with Iowa, Wisconsin and Minnesota who are able to maximize their talent

Nebraska has one thing going for it, fan support. We bring in a top 5 to top 10 spring game attendance so we lean heavily on our strength. Legally bringing in large NIL money is how we cans do this… how’s Utahs football fan support holding in? Even with that PAC championship

 

[steinek11]

One thing no one has mentioned yet (which is not shocking) is that why would TX even need to come up with a better offer, or even the same amount of money as NU does to get him to sign with them? None of you are even considering this which I find fascinating.

He is a Native Texan,
His folks live less than 10 miles from the campus
A TX degree as a former football player in the state of TX is going to make him a lot more money in the state of TX over his lifetime than an NU degree will if he decides to live in TX closer to his fam.
TX is a top 40 academic institution while NU is ranked in the 130's...
His former coach Patterson has a position over at TX right now...
He dreamed of going to TX out of HS, but they didnt recruit him.

Does any of the above scream that TX would even need to come up with the same type of cash to match what NU would offer in the first place? No...lol It doesnt.

I bet TX could get away with just upping their original NIL offer (which was probably all he was looking to get them to do in the first place which is why he took the NE visit) AKA to get TX to offer more NIL money.

I bet TX could get him for 350K vs NU's 500K...or 400K vs 500K...(If the NU 500K is even an accurate figure).

You've put a lot of thought into this

 

[Boiler_B]

You've put a lot of thought into this

No, just seems pretty easy to connect the dots that he was only using the NU visit to drive up his NIL package at TX to get a better deal there.

Can't blame kids for doing it with the system that is in place.

 

[king_kong_]

You support rape and child rape. You support Michigan, Michigan State, & others having to pay hundreds-of-millions of dollars...which is essentially funding lying & rape.

I'm against this.

Payment of money is a mockery & a very B1G way of ‘settling’, IMO.

on this we perhaps agree.

 

[Yantzeee]

One thing no one has mentioned yet (which is not shocking) is that why would TX even need to come up with a better offer, or even the same amount of money as NU does to get him to sign with them? None of you are even considering this which I find fascinating.

He is a Native Texan,
His folks live less than 10 miles from the campus
A TX degree as a former football player in the state of TX is going to make him a lot more money in the state of TX over his lifetime than an NU degree will if he decides to live in TX closer to his fam.
TX is a top 40 academic institution while NU is ranked in the 130's...
His former coach Patterson has a position over at TX right now...
He dreamed of going to TX out of HS, but they didnt recruit him.

Does any of the above scream that TX would even need to come up with the same type of cash to match what NU would offer in the first place? No...lol It doesnt.

I bet TX could get away with just upping their original NIL offer (which was probably all he was looking to get them to do in the first place which is why he took the NE visit) AKA to get TX to offer more NIL money.

I bet TX could get him for 350K vs NU's 500K...or 400K vs 500K...(If the NU 500K is even an accurate figure).

 

[artguy68]

All this money and player movement and such... and for what? So teams can possibly win a few more games, so they can play in some forgettable bowl with a stupid corporate name? Does it matter if Nebraska goes 6-6 or 7-5 or 8-4? It is fun to watch them win, but is it worth all this money, really?

Seriously, people, do something good with this money you have to burn.

Also, how much longer do we have to pretend that some of these kids are students taking classes?

 

[Yantzeee]

Seriously, people, do something good with this money you have to burn.

bringing joy in peoples life isn’t doing something good?

 

[TheWayITellEm]

The f you talking about you weirdo? I think all b1g fans(not Nebraska fans) should be publicly executed for being rape fans...you are all subhuman trash!

You're the rape fan. Because spreading lies and blame-shifting is what causes rapes and pimping to continue.

 

[TheWayITellEm]

Or you have to be a red blooded American/ capitalist. Minnesota has the Vikings that does that. Nebraska has the Huskers that does that. Don’t hate

the big fish eat the little ones. Not my problem If your small

I'm an American and I'm for freedom. And it will be my decision to stop watching 'college' football if it becomes a complete mockery. We might as well have the Vikings play the Cornhuskers then.

 

[TheWayITellEm]

In fact, I wouldn't doubt that the NFL is behind this. It might make me go back to watching the Vikings instead of the Gophers.

 

[Bigred_b1624]

You're the rape fan. Because spreading lies and blame-shifting is what causes rapes and pimping to continue.

Bro...stop raping kids...why are you a pedophile? It's disgusting

 

[Scat_Back]

I don’t think he’s coming here, but in case anyone cares, he is announcing on April 30th.

 

[Yantzeee]

I'm an American and I'm for freedom. And it will be my decision to stop watching 'college' football if it becomes a complete mockery. We might as well have the Vikings play the Cornhuskers then.

Oh darn. Might as well cancel football then if your not going to watch…as they say don’t let the door hit you