Non P5 have rarely had a chance anyways...might as well cut it down to 65 teams instead of 130. NIL isn't connected to the schools even though we all know they are. Will never be a fair market
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Non P5 have rarely had a chance anyways...might as well cut it down to 65 teams instead of 130. NIL isn't connected to the schools even though we all know they are. Will never be a fair market
My point was why are some so interested in limiting what the players are able command?
Because all the elite players will go to the same 5 schools...yes, some of that is now BUT the main issue is kids can transfer to those schools once they have proven themselves elsewhere. So any top player at a school will want more money and leave.
We then have to see every other kid asking you to buy their merchandise etc. like a stay at home mom on Facebook selling Norwex and Nail supplies.
I still struggle to see why anyone choosing to try to better their situation could possibly be viewed as an "issue"
what you've described above has been happening in college football for 15 years. now that money is involved, it's all of a sudden a problem for some
seems much more like a you issue than an actual college football issue to me
My first idea would be to limit football programs to a 60-man active roster, and men's basketball to a 12-man active roster. You can still have additional practice players, who can be activated if there are injuries, but they can't suit up for games. I think smaller active rosters will discourage a lot of players from jumping in the portal and risk losing a roster spot. It would also allow the smaller programs to still get some good players, as the top programs will only have a limited number of roster spots.
My 2nd idea, would be to get rid of athletic scholarships, at least in their current form. Instead, schools can give the cost of attendance money to the athletes as an interest-free loan each year. If the athlete stays at the school and finishes their degree, the school will pay off the loan in full. If the athlete transfers, they are responsible for paying back the loan. An exception could be made in the event of a coaching change.
If anything, this will help more schools than hurt.
The freedom of transfer and NIL will let a lot of studs that are not starting or want more...look elsewhere. So stocking up on talent will become harder and harder.
Face it, no one is getting paid if they are sitting the bench.
I think it's pretty obvious there is much, much more good than bad coming from this 'wild west'
NIL/Transfer is like the real world.
If you get a new gig and after a few months you realize that you work with people that are your age and have more experience at that company and that your bosses are just a bit older than you...it sets in...I don't have a ton of upward mobility here I better start looking for a better fit.
If you get a new gig and after a few months you realize that you work with people that are your age and have more experience at that company and that your bosses are just a bit older than you...it sets in...I don't have a ton of upward mobility here I better start looking for a better fit.
I am not really sure if there is a realistic "bad"
There is an emotional "bad"
- Oh man, my favorite player is transferring
- Oh man my favorite team could not outbid the other team
I get that, I do but okay...They are not playing "for you".
The players are not worth anything. Nothing. Nobody wants to watch amateur football or amateur basketball. And what are the ratings for the NBA G-League. Nothing.
The ONLY reason people watch are because they are fans of the SCHOOL.
That seems likely a pretty easy hypothesis to test - no schools are forced to coordinate any type of NIL
some schools can opt out of coordinating NIL and they can later be compared to the schools that are highly active in NIL
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I could care less if ALL kids were paid equally $1M a year...so no it isn't a 'ME' issue. It's not good for the game.
I am not at all surprised that you do not understand what the word 'amateur' means. the NBA G-League is composed entirely of professionals (duh), and not at all comparable to any facet of college sports.
hilarious post. what a dullard.
so you are upset that some kids are paid more than others? and that's potentially, according to you, 'not good for the game'?
got it
living in the United States must be very difficult for any with this mindset
college football has literally never been a better on-field product, has literally never drawn more eyeballs and has literally never been this interesting
2 years ago we would've been signing onto a board packed with workout pics & off the wall prognostications about what's to come in 5 long months. now, we wait on bated breath to see if frost & co can somehow pull a rabbit out of the hat and land a couple immediate-impact difference makers
I have yet to see a quantifiable (see: non-emotional) argument highlighting all of the pitfalls of NIL (real or potential). the closest thing to it is managing new locker room dynamics, which I see as basically a zero
I wonder, a bit, if NIL/Transfer rules will change how the NFL does things and that the draft will, someday, be gone or changed.
Something like, no longer having the first "pick", but the first "pitch" to a prospective future player. And the power will shift to the players.
thank you for proving my point
if you have your panties in a wad about players (gasp!) transferring or (GASP!) getting paid different amounts, that's on you
I think the draft is the NFL's way of pushing parity and will never go away
the ratings last night against the NBA playoffs were still probably pretty good
I'm sorry your brain is too tiny to comprehend the bigger picture. I guess all the CFB coaches know less than you as well? They don't like it either.
"student-athlete" is a made up term created by the ncaa in order to profit billions tax-free from 18-22-year olds' hard work for decades
I would bet you any number you want that the majority of CFB coaches are heavily in favor of these long-needed changes
dabo sweeney can get bent - nobody who's power hungry likes when their ill gotten authority is challenged
when traditionalists are shaking in their boots, you know you're on the cusp of something good
dabo will be just like urban meyer - an inflexible relic, not long for the business they once sat atop
Nick Saban, meanwhile, isn't going anywhere. he's getting his next QB a multi-million dollar deal as we speak en route to another likely playoff birth
I'm all for players being able to make money off their own name and image, but even professional leagues have drafts and salary caps to maintain some degree of competitive balance and fairness. I have to believe there will some types of regulations coming.
here's little history lesson for any interested in getting on the right side of it:
"We crafted the term student-athlete," [NCAA president] Walter Byers himself wrote, "and soon it was embedded in all NCAA rules and interpretations." The term came into play in the 1950s, when the widow of Ray Dennison, who had died from a head injury received while playing football in Colorado for the Fort Lewis A&M Aggies, filed for workmen’s-compensation death benefits. Did his football scholarship make the fatal collision a "work-related" accident? Was he a school employee, like his peers who worked part-time as teaching assistants and bookstore cashiers? Or was he a fluke victim of extracurricular pursuits? Given the hundreds of incapacitating injuries to college athletes each year, the answers to these questions had enormous consequences. The Colorado Supreme Court ultimately agreed with the school’s contention that he was not eligible for benefits, since the college was "not in the football business."
the ncaa, much like our hated conference, are scumbags to the core. always have been, always will be.
every major university has now been in the football business for going on 30 years, and should accept the responsibility that comes with hammering 9-figure checks annually.
"We crafted the term student-athlete," [NCAA president] Walter Byers himself wrote, "and soon it was embedded in all NCAA rules and interpretations." The term came into play in the 1950s, when the widow of Ray Dennison, who had died from a head injury received while playing football in Colorado for the Fort Lewis A&M Aggies, filed for workmen’s-compensation death benefits. Did his football scholarship make the fatal collision a "work-related" accident? Was he a school employee, like his peers who worked part-time as teaching assistants and bookstore cashiers? Or was he a fluke victim of extracurricular pursuits? Given the hundreds of incapacitating injuries to college athletes each year, the answers to these questions had enormous consequences. The Colorado Supreme Court ultimately agreed with the school’s contention that he was not eligible for benefits, since the college was "not in the football business."
the ncaa, much like our hated conference, are scumbags to the core. always have been, always will be.
every major university has now been in the football business for going on 30 years, and should accept the responsibility that comes with hammering 9-figure checks annually.
What are you talking about? 90% of CFB coaches know that NIL and the Portal are a sh*t show. Most coaches can do Saban's job when you get the best players every year. He was 34-24 at Michigan St
I think a salary cap will come very soon, and also like your idea of active rosters.
unfortunately, though, I think a salary cap will be determined by conferences, and we all know how much the lame loser B1G loves to virtue signal about academics at pivotal moments
do you have a link to that stat? or would I also have to peer up your *** to find it?
From your boy Saban's mouth
Alabama's Nick Saban: CFB Is Not 'Sustainable' with Transfer Portal, NIL Contracts
Well, if you are Saban why would you want any changes at all? I mean, things have worked great for him.
I would be like TO saying "We should get rid of Prop 48" 25 years ago. No way.
Good question and no idea but even if they could not, they could just "give" money to another person who would then give it to the NIL funding.
nope. Penny Hardaway got a slap on the wrist for it two years ago.
he donated as an alum in 2008 ($1M) and the NCAA deemed him booster in perpetuity. kind of crazy (or typical when it comes to the NCAA).
also typical of the NCAA - punishment for this offense was doled out to a player (James Wiseman) and not the program or Hardaway himself after Hardaway paid $11k to help move Wiseman & his family to Memphis.
Wiseman, of course, was made ineligible for the season.
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nowhere in there did he say he hates NIL or is against it. here are all of his quotes:
"I don’t think what we’re doing right now is a sustainable model"
"The concept of name, image and likeness was for players to be able to use their name, image and likeness to create opportunities for themselves. That’s what it was. So last year on our team, our guys probably made as much or more than anybody in the country. ..."
"But that creates a situation where you can basically buy players. You can do it in recruiting. I mean, if that’s what we want college football to be, I don’t know. And you can also get players to get in the transfer portal to see if they can get more someplace else than they can get at your place."
he is simply stating plain as day facts, while also acknowledging the fact that NIL has been nothing but awesome for his team
Couldn't the NCAA just ban players from discussing NIL with anyone before they begin classes at their new school? I thought that's what they were going to do in the first place.
Saban says here he is fine with players making money off their NIL, but draws the line at using it as a recruiting tool. The above ^ quotes are taken out of context. He is basically conceding that, yeah, if that is where people want to see this game go, then so be it. His tone is definitely not in favor of it.
IMO yeah, pay the kids, some of them deserve it. But using it for recruiting is gross and its already getting out of hand. That being said, I am not against NU doing it right now because if not, we will fall behind. I just dont like it. Cheapens the game. Kids will stop caring about playing for certain places, winning for that team. It will become about the money and the money only. Locker rooms will divide, etc.
IMO yeah, pay the kids, some of them deserve it. But using it for recruiting is gross and its already getting out of hand. That being said, I am not against NU doing it right now because if not, we will fall behind. I just dont like it. Cheapens the game. Kids will stop caring about playing for certain places, winning for that team. It will become about the money and the money only. Locker rooms will divide, etc.
The way to test my hypothesis (that people are fans of the schools and not of amateur athletes) is to check the TV ratings & attendance of the NBA G-League. And minor league baseball. Or any minor league football team. And also check the ratings of perennial non-contending major college FB & BB teams that still garner interest and pack the stadiums & arenas.
Would you pay to watch Adrian Martinez or Bryce McGowens if they weren't playing for the University of Nebraska?
3pm decision time for Mathis.
I gotta say, players dragging out decisions and stringing multiple schools along to create more fanfare and hype over their decision is getting old fast.
Just man up, make a choice and move on.
I gotta say, players dragging out decisions and stringing multiple schools along to create more fanfare and hype over their decision is getting old fast.
Just man up, make a choice and move on.
Notice the word 'And' in my post. I differentiated the NBA G-League from the amateurs.
You're difficult sometimes.
Those who say that college athletes deserve to be highly paid, answer this:
Would you pay to watch Adrian Martinez or Bryce McGowens if they weren't playing for the University of Nebraska?
Would you pay to watch Adrian Martinez or Bryce McGowens if they weren't playing for the University of Nebraska?