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The sideline shots of Martinez after a fumble or interception seem to indicate he doesn't give a ****. No emotion, no appearance of being upset... just a look like he's in some daze.
Maybe his "off the field issues" have consumed him and he no longer enjoys football.
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Feel terrible for Adrian. Just a great kid. We're not even in position to win these games without him. You gotta believe the tide will turn for him and this team eventually here. I was really impressed with Michigan. OSU may get them again this year but that's a really physical and disciplined team.
He is a great kid. And I like him off the field...a lot, represents our university well. But you don't know we aren't in a position to win these games without him. We lose all these games. How could someone else possibly do worse? I mean a loss is a loss.
I think you tell Adrian that in the Minnesota and Purdue games that Adrian plays the first half and Logan plays the 2nd to get him some experience. We have to find a 2 minute drill qb.
he is just not a competitive person..
you could see that early in the game when he ran wide right and a defender came up to meet him.. he needed a couple of yards, and gave up and ran out of bounds.
that is not what eric crouch would have done, or tommy armstrong, or taylor martinez..
the kid just doesn't have that kind of juice in him, and some have seen this from the beginning of his career.
unfortunately, his head coach is blind to this, and is why we have had losing seasons for 3 years, potentially 4.
I predict that if Martinez doesn’t announce after the bowl game that it is time to move on to the next phase of his life, you will see a number of TEs and WRs entering the portal - many of whom we don't want to lose. I can’t imagine the that one maybe two really good passes he makes a game can make up for the frustration those guys must have for the slow/wrong reads, not being seen when open or the bad throws on so many other plays.
I know they would never do this, but Is there any way the staff could just pull Martinez out if there's less than 5 minutes remaining and it's a tight game?
Dude is just a choke artist who has made a stupid play and/or turned the ball over at the end of every tight game. He plays great when the game is not on the like but chokes regularly at pivotal moments late in games.
Dude is just a choke artist who has made a stupid play and/or turned the ball over at the end of every tight game. He plays great when the game is not on the like but chokes regularly at pivotal moments late in games.
He's like a couple of our former QBs. Tommy Armstrong and Taylor Martinez. They make plays that make you say WTF? In a good way and unfortunately in a bad way.
That's exactly what I told my wife on that play. If he takes a hard left step a step earlier and stays low, he might duck under the tacklers and extend the ball and score. It is a lot easier to see on tv that on the field.
Whoever coached Adrian to get out of bounds before getting hit is as much to blame. He’s been coached to get out of bounds to avoid taking a hit. Ok, got it—that’s common sense. But what they didn’t tell him is to first get as much yardage as possible THEN go out of bounds. And sometimes you are going to have to try to get the extra yards when it’s at a critical point in the drive and probably take the hit. He only has one gear: get out of bounds before getting hit and don’t worry about maximizing yardage.
When it comes to Adrain the poor guy will be remembered more for his mistakes and losing games than a lot of amazing plays he has had…
Be scaring to think what some of these scores would be without him this season..
But I don’t want to watch the same movie again next year SF is in trouble if he can’t find a quality QB …
Be scaring to think what some of these scores would be without him this season..
But I don’t want to watch the same movie again next year SF is in trouble if he can’t find a quality QB …
Someone posted that he's playing with a broken jaw which might explain his reluctance to run. If true, why would you play him? Is Smothers that bad? He definitely doesn't want to get hit.
At some point if we can’t win with Martinez we need to insert Smothers or Haarburg, because if we are going to lose anyway need to rep other people
That's exactly the problem. He's a terrible qb when it matters. Dumb decisions on 3rd downs, in the red zone, in late-game situations. That's why he's a loser qb, that's just who he is.
I suppose you k
I suppose you speak from experience of being a D1 QB at some point in your life, right?
He made a lot of plays last night when it mattered. The TD pass to Johnson, the TD pass to Allen, the TD pass to Flack. The 20 yard run to keep a scoring drive alive. The 5 yard TD run. The two point extra point run. Why do you think we almost beat the # 9 team? It was because Martinez made a lot of plays when it mattered.
Name 3 things you are actually good at doing.
Bitching on a Husker message board doesn't qualify as one of the three.
I'm good at a lot of things. I don't have to be a coach to know there's a lot of things wrong with this program.
He should’ve never had to be fighting for points?! Stupid first half game plan caused us to lose this game, not Martinez!!!
That’s funny. His play kept us in this game. Team sport g-pa. Open your eyes.
Martinez is a great athlete playing QB that often bails our *** out when others **** the bed (OL mainly).
Martinez has average QB skills (reading a defense, scanning through options, making quick decisions), which is why when we need him most, he comes up short.
Great Athlete with average QB skills leads to great stats. The average QB skills lead to losses in close games where you are tied / trailing and need to score at the end
Martinez has average QB skills (reading a defense, scanning through options, making quick decisions), which is why when we need him most, he comes up short.
Great Athlete with average QB skills leads to great stats. The average QB skills lead to losses in close games where you are tied / trailing and need to score at the end
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If he had average qb skills, we'd be alright. The problem is he's actually way below average in these skills.
i just think the kid has seen something so much worse than any football outcome will ever approach at a time in his life when he may never fix it. could be a very long struggle going up against a barrier no one can even begin to understand. God Bless Adrian and f the rest of it.
You think they will leave if he doesn’t? You think there is ANY confidence in who is behind him? AM is the only real P5 qb on the roster. They HAVE to hit the portal for a qb this year.
I understand it, because I lived it at a simliar age.
Mo suffered that same type loss at an early age, and despite his God given talent, he has never overcome that loss. Each of us are different, and for whatever reasons Mo has not been able to move forward as well as Adrian.
Adrian is a great athlete. He's a good QB. He will be successful in life because he is conservative, is well liked and respected by his peers, he is a sensitive person, and he communicates well with people.
He is not an aggressive person, in a sport dependent upon aggression. He is being who is he.
Leaving Fresno and coming to Nebraska has been great for his personal development and growth. Yes, many of us have dogged him, and he has withstood it. He will have overcome a lot of adversity at a young age. He is prepared for life after football.
It changes you, but it doesn't have to define who you become.
You're on.
You have no basis to make the assumption you made above, and I would go so far as to say the receiver corps are happy as hell with him.
seems like people are throwing dirt on martinez premature.
he still has 1/2 season this year, and a whole season next year.
he still has plenty ball to play if he wants to and I see no reason why he wouldn't..
and these L's are close to becoming W's, the cups definitely half full with a ways to go.
and when them L's turn to W's, everything changes
he still has 1/2 season this year, and a whole season next year.
he still has plenty ball to play if he wants to and I see no reason why he wouldn't..
and these L's are close to becoming W's, the cups definitely half full with a ways to go.
and when them L's turn to W's, everything changes
I think his issue is that he doesn't trust his teammates on offense....because his coach doesn't trust his teammates on offense.
If you don't trust everyone around you, you try to do way too much...what do we see Adrian do in crunch time? He puts way too much on his plate and gets bitchslapped for it.
I admire the desire to go big but you have to be smart about it.
I also wonder if not having the best players on the field is hurting him even more. If your receivers can't get open regularly or your online can't hold blocks etc...kid may have just been trained to react this way.
I'm with him until the end of this season at least...he does come up short but we would be getting boat raced with any of the other QBs and if you think differently then you're a fool.
If you don't trust everyone around you, you try to do way too much...what do we see Adrian do in crunch time? He puts way too much on his plate and gets bitchslapped for it.
I admire the desire to go big but you have to be smart about it.
I also wonder if not having the best players on the field is hurting him even more. If your receivers can't get open regularly or your online can't hold blocks etc...kid may have just been trained to react this way.
I'm with him until the end of this season at least...he does come up short but we would be getting boat raced with any of the other QBs and if you think differently then you're a fool.
I think a better question is why do we run an offense that is so quarterback centric? I mean how many great pocket passers has there been in Nebraska history? I think since Eric Crouch we have ran offenses that have relied too much on quarterback play.
Why is it we have I think six scholarship RBs and are quarterback is still the most effective runner on the team? Here’s another thought, why on 3rd and short does the team snap the ball from the shotgun? I can see if they are going to run it to the edges, but straight up the middle? Just poor attention to detail from the offense as a whole.
Adrain may not play smart football, but his coach certainly doesn’t coach smart football.
Why is it we have I think six scholarship RBs and are quarterback is still the most effective runner on the team? Here’s another thought, why on 3rd and short does the team snap the ball from the shotgun? I can see if they are going to run it to the edges, but straight up the middle? Just poor attention to detail from the offense as a whole.
Adrain may not play smart football, but his coach certainly doesn’t coach smart football.
Some valid points, but overall I think you're nuts.
Lotsa group-think going on in this thread.
Lol what? Frost needs to make a bowl to save his job. A bowl game hasn't been this important to Nebraska since the Rose Bowl 20 years ago.
He goes out of bounds near the goal line instead of taking a hit on 2nd down. 4th down he stands straight up and stops his feet like it's a practice drill. constantly leaves yards on the field. Then after the game he's called a "warrior" and a tough SOB. I just don't see it. I've watched Husker QB'S for 25 years and he's probably the least physical QB we've ever had. Adrian doesn't like to get hit. I don't know if he has injuries or what not.I think it's mostly BS when coaches talk about his toughness.
The last 3 years Adrian's been benched.
Year 1 to Bunch.
Year 2 to Vedral
Year 3 to McCaffery
Year 4 he's playing better as expected. He's a 4 year starter. He's probably our best option at QB. He makes great runs and occasionally makes a great pass. but I think he limits us offensively and the coaches don't completely trust him in the passing game. I thought he played his best football Saturday minus the fumble and the avoiding contact near the goal line.
The last 3 years Adrian's been benched.
Year 1 to Bunch.
Year 2 to Vedral
Year 3 to McCaffery
Year 4 he's playing better as expected. He's a 4 year starter. He's probably our best option at QB. He makes great runs and occasionally makes a great pass. but I think he limits us offensively and the coaches don't completely trust him in the passing game. I thought he played his best football Saturday minus the fumble and the avoiding contact near the goal line.