Mark Few called a TIMEOUT

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CalipariCapo

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Why call a timeout & let the defense get set. If Roy Williams would have called a timeout in the Elite 8 against us no doubt I think we would've won. BUT they did the right thing by not calling it & pushing the ball up the floor with defense out of position they get an open jumper.

The mistake was NOT Cal not calling a TO. The mistake was Hagans not pushing the ball when we had the numbers. He's young & got scared but I think you always have the advantage after a score to catch defense on their heels. If their is more time like 20+ seconds it's a different story....call timeout.

BTW, Coach K says that's the more efficient philosophy. Just saying
Thank you!! Finally a voice of reason. The mistake was in Hagans. You don’t stop and dribble the air out of the ball at half court with 6 seconds left to go in the game. It was good coaching to not call a timeout. Cal has never had to call TO in that situation because he’s had fast, smart PGs that drives the ball downhill and get to the rim. Hagans is not that type of player. He, and Quickley especially, play timid and scared of making a mistake instead of playing to win the game. Once the nerves get settled and they get more acclimated to the system, I expect the guards to take a huge leap forward after the Christmas break. Cal always has success coaching PG’s and that is the biggest glaring issue at the moment. We are playing good enough defense as it stands to win games. However, you can not go scoreless 15 straight possessions and expect to win. This is why we got curb stomped by Duke (that, and a matador defense). With the way we’re playing on offense rn, we will lose against a team that runs anything that resembles a structured offense.
 

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No.

But Jesus Christ. Everything in life--you should do as well as you can. Wasting a time out and getting a bad shot is not maximizing your opportunity. Just because it isn't a guaranteed score doesn't make it good.

Cal can coach a perfect game and we can lose. I get it. When he coaches a perfect game, we'll talk. Losing by 1 with timeouts...not really a lot of good excuses.
Don’t know why you’re telling me no when I said I don’t see what’s wrong with folks wanting Cal to call a timeout
 
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thats not the part we didnt believe

the part we didnt believe was that 50-75 people were happy with how things are going
The BBN isn’t confined to Rupp Rafters and your computer. The Big Blue Mist is everywhere and the majority are optimistic.
 
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Sorry you had to watch such terrible basketball all weekend, but I was talking about the part where you said ‘nothing but love for cal.’
They were mostly military servicemen and women who have a healthy respect for anything UK. A lot of them get deployed overseas and can’t catch every UK game.
 

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It's a crap shoot in end of game situations of whether or not to call a time out. Pluses and minuses to each. But if you don't call one you damn well should look like you've worked on end of game situations a ton in practice. We never do.
 
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Lol. Nah I was there. And LeBron is everything I’ve ever seen on TV. Dude is huge and fast with the ball. Almost like a pg. If they get AD, lookout.
 

Blueblood410

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What’s your point?

Did they dribble for 20 seconds and settle for a hurried 25 foot contested three?

Apparently time moves in double speed in the Negative Nancies World. No wonder they get so grumpy.

Not to mention a three wasn’t the call, but Keldon had to settle for it because Nick screwed up the play and Ashton had to slow down to let Nick get set.

Oh sorry, I’m using facts. FAR CAL HE SUCKS HIRE JAY WHITE! that’s better.
 

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The BBN isn’t confined to Rupp Rafters and your computer. The Big Blue Mist is everywhere and the majority are optimistic.

Nah man .. I'm stuck in a wheelchair. I wouldnt know anything about getting out and talking to real life people in person.... just wish I could get to a place where a lot of UK fans congregate like that...









and that was a couple of weeks ago.... I bet people are even more concerned now [laughing]
 
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Lol. Nah I was there. And LeBron is everything I’ve ever seen on TV. Dude is huge and fast with the ball. Almost like a pg. If they get AD, lookout.
Yeah he’s a big dude. Just don’t have many human beings like that in the world. I haven’t been to a game there, but have been to San Antonio and everyone was great and super nice to all of us. Went an done some work with Habitat for Humanity and I hated to leave. Great people and a beautiful place. Also, i don’t know how to feel about Davis an the lakers. Lol. Maybe he would fit with them, but I kinda like him with the Pelicans. Kings are my team but I’ve kinda adopted the pels.
 

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You just countered your own point. When you've got a freshman handling the ball who is "young and scared" you'd better call a timeout, otherwise you might have one of your bigs tossing up an airball from 3 when you should be taking it to the hole.
What happens when we’re playing in the tourney and we have 0 timeouts left and we’re in the same situation? Not calling a TO was the right play. Cal got to see what Hagans is made of during crunch time. Great learning experience. Hagans will now know to push the ball all the way to the rim and try to draw a foul instead of dribbling the air out of the ball at halfcourt.
 
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What happens when we’re playing in the tourney and we have 0 timeouts left and we’re in the same situation? Not calling a TO was the right play. Cal got to see what Hagans is made of during crunch time. Great learning experience. Hagans will now know to push the ball all the way to the rim and try to draw a foul instead of dribbling the air out of the ball at halfcourt.
This. We have some ignorant fans when it comes to basketball knowledge.
 

LadyCaytIL

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What happens when we’re playing in the tourney and we have 0 timeouts left and we’re in the same situation? Not calling a TO was the right play. Cal got to see what Hagans is made of during crunch time. Great learning experience. Hagans will now know to push the ball all the way to the rim and try to draw a foul instead of dribbling the air out of the ball at halfcourt.

Cal said Hagans should of called a time out. Do you even listen to post games?

If you think a player should call the time out... then call the time out for him if he's not doing it.
 
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Why call a timeout & let the defense get set. If Roy Williams would have called a timeout in the Elite 8 against us no doubt I think we would've won. BUT they did the right thing by not calling it & pushing the ball up the floor with defense out of position they get an open jumper.

The mistake was NOT Cal not calling a TO. The mistake was Hagans not pushing the ball when we had the numbers. He's young & got scared but I think you always have the advantage after a score to catch defense on their heels. If their is more time like 20+ seconds it's a different story....call timeout.

BTW, Coach K says that's the more efficient philosophy. Just saying
Which is exactly why you call a timeout with a young, inexperienced team. They don't know what to do in that situation. A timeout gives him a chance to simplify it for them.
 

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Do not question King Cal on this board. Have u not yet learned there was no such thing as Kentucky basketball before him nor will there be after.

Cal may be a magician because he has made 8+ loss seasons acceptable here as well as losing 66% of the time to ranked teams the last 3 seasons, losing 3 straight to Kansas, getting bent over by Duke.

Never would I have thought we would try to justify 3 plus years of mediocre results.

Yeah but after it was over UK got a really nice 2nd place trophy for the game they just played. Really justified all the hard work they put in.
 

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No timeout was called. Can't go back in time, yet and it's over. Noone but nevade will be undefeated come march. Book it
 
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Not sure if comparing Few's X and O struggles to those of Cal right now is the smartest comparison. One guy beat Duke. The other one lost by 34 to Duke.
People were clamoring for Cal to call a timeout at the end of the Seton Hall game. He didn’t and we lost. Mark Few called a timeout against Tennessee and they lost. The point is that timeouts are overrated and calling one or not calling one doesn’t affect the game as much as people think.
 

BleedinBlue85

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Dude, you’re way too emotional over a December loss. Hell, if not for a last second runner, John Wall would have lost his first ever game at UK against Miami of Ohio.
Yeah that team about lost to Stanford as well. They were dead to rights in that game and then John Wall happened
 

Son_Of_Saul

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People were clamoring for Cal to call a timeout at the end of the Seton Hall game. He didn’t and we lost. Mark Few called a timeout against Tennessee and they lost. The point is that timeouts are overrated and calling one or not calling one doesn’t affect the game as much as people think.

I get the point and it's not one I care about in either direction of the argument. The issue for me wasn't that Cal didn't call a timeout. It's that he lost to Seton Hall.

Tennessee, by contrast, is actually a good team. So there's that.
 
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People were clamoring for Cal to call a timeout at the end of the Seton Hall game. He didn’t and we lost. Mark Few called a timeout against Tennessee and they lost. The point is that timeouts are overrated and calling one or not calling one doesn’t affect the game as much as people think.

Let me see if I can get this string straight. Cal didn't call a T O and we lost. Few called a T O and they lost, and now some folks are calling for Few to replace Cal. Am I not getting something? I am insane I guess [do not agree with this sentence]
 

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Why call a timeout & let the defense get set. If Roy Williams would have called a timeout in the Elite 8 against us no doubt I think we would've won. BUT they did the right thing by not calling it & pushing the ball up the floor with defense out of position they get an open jumper.

The mistake was NOT Cal not calling a TO. The mistake was Hagans not pushing the ball when we had the numbers. He's young & got scared but I think you always have the advantage after a score to catch defense on their heels. If their is more time like 20+ seconds it's a different story....call timeout.

BTW, Coach K says that's the more efficient philosophy. Just saying
You are trying to compare a veteran team playing their 30 something game to the season to a team playing their 9th game, that's just ignorant.
 

TortElvisII

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People were clamoring for Cal to call a timeout at the end of the Seton Hall game. He didn’t and we lost. Mark Few called a timeout against Tennessee and they lost. The point is that timeouts are overrated and calling one or not calling one doesn’t affect the game as much as people think.

What matters is do you get a good look? I don't think either one of them got a very good look. Gonzaga was more in control than we were.
 

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You probably should get out a little more. I was in San Antonio this weekend and watched the game with about 50-75 UK fans who are either stationed there or work there. Nothing but love for Cal and the Cats.

Love San Antonio , love all the military there , but the stuff about " everyone" being content with whats going on is ******** . No one , not a single person I know is happy with the Cats and the current mojo of our program or process as some call it . You seem to think Cal is ok with game management and X's and O's . Most of the guys I hang with who played ball all their life think he's pretty much terrible as a bench coach. Last three years have been well below standards .
 

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You just countered your own point. When you've got a freshman handling the ball who is "young and scared" you'd better call a timeout, otherwise you might have one of your bigs tossing up an airball from 3 when you should be taking it to the hole.

They would have had to bring ball across halfcourt then called one. So, would've been left with 4-5 second to depend on young guys to execute what you drew up against a defense that is now set. I'd rather take the chance of a higher probability of scoring with defense on their heels & hope that a 19 year that has played basketball forever has surely been in the situation before & has the presence of mind just to go.
 

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Drew Up a play.....and lost! [laughing]
You know Gonzaga played without 2 of their top 7 players, one of which is their best all around player don't you ? Of course you don't, because you know absolutely nothing about Gonzaga.