Marcus Freeman - Odd Timing

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“Freeman, who was a Christian before his entrance into the Catholic Church”
I mean, I went to read the story just to make sure you were not pulling our leg.

I find this astounding, especially for a publication titled "The Catholic Telegraph" with a cross in its branding and published by the Archdiocese of Cincinnati whose website home page says "We are called to radiate CHRIST."
 

scullman

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He joined prior to the season and his wife and children were already catholic. I think this is awesome and makes complete sense. Of course, I'm catholic myself, and likely biased.

Even as a catholic though...I don't know that I'd want to go back to the mass before games tradition. I think Kelly had the right idea making it the night before the game. I would have a hard time getting amped up for a game immediately after a solumn mass.
 

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I mean, I went to read the story just to make sure you were not pulling our leg.

I find this astounding, especially for a publication titled "The Catholic Telegraph" with a cross in its branding and published by the Archdiocese of Cincinnati whose website home page says "We are called to radiate CHRIST."
It’s the church man. Been dividing for a millennia. I attended a Southern Baptist Convention church in Clemson for years and couldn’t be a member until I was baptized by immersion. I never did, don’t believe in “church membership” as defined by denominations But that’s just me.
 

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I mean, I went to read the story just to make sure you were not pulling our leg.

I find this astounding, especially for a publication titled "The Catholic Telegraph" with a cross in its branding and published by the Archdiocese of Cincinnati whose website home page says "We are called to radiate CHRIST."
This is just infelicitous phrasing that clearly was supposed to mean that he was already a Christian before joining a Catholic Church. I don’t care for some of the ways Catholics talk about themselves, or for some of their theology, but it’s a beautiful tradition that’s clearly within Christian orthodoxy.
 

ChicagoTiger85

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It’s the church man. Been dividing for a millennia. I attended a Southern Baptist Convention church in Clemson for years and couldn’t be a member until I was baptized by immersion. I never did, don’t believe in “church membership” as defined by denominations But that’s just me.
There is the universal Church and then there is the church community you’re a member of. All Christians are part of the Church, but joining a local church community that has rites and rules that form the community is biblical. Church (capital C) membership is a prerequisite for church membership, but just never being a member of a church community isn’t wise for human beings or biblical.
 

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I mean, I went to read the story just to make sure you were not pulling our leg.

I find this astounding, especially for a publication titled "The Catholic Telegraph" with a cross in its branding and published by the Archdiocese of Cincinnati whose website home page says "We are called to radiate CHRIST."
What’s so astounding? It’s just saying he was another type of Christian before becoming catholic and not like an agnostic or whatever
 

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- Become a Catholic on Wednesday
- lose to the #1 public school Saturday
- excommunicated on Sunday

Could be a helluva week.
 
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As long as the check clears he will be approved….

I was raised 8 days a week in southern churches, bible school, etc…

My wife is Catholic…so our boys will be raised as well.

Im not anti religion, but organized religion definitely makes me cynical about some the things. Runs like a business and I think the Catholics have figured it out better than others.

This post is made in some jest…but….
 

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This is just infelicitous phrasing that clearly was supposed to mean that he was already a Christian before joining a Catholic Church. I don’t care for some of the ways Catholics talk about themselves, or for some of their theology, but it’s a beautiful tradition that’s clearly within Christian orthodoxy.
If you believe Jesus is the one true God!
 
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SDTiger9

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As long as the check clears he will be approved….

I was raised 8 days a week in southern churches, bible school, etc…

My wife is Catholic…so our boys will be raised as well.

Im not anti religion, but organized religion definitely makes me cynical about some the things. Runs like a business and I think the Catholics have figured it out better than others.

This post is made in some jest…but….
Cynical is a dismissive and derogatory term for someone demanding the truth. You don’t have to negatively label yourself.

It’s on the institutions to fulfill their mission and reveal themselves as they profess. That doesn’t make you a cynic, just someone expecting a fair handshake.
 

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It reminds me of the saying, “I would like church more if it wasn’t for some of these Christian’s.”
On a side note, I recently had a couple of heart procedures (ablation gone awry) but it was touch and go for a couple days and they asked me what denomination I was, I quickly replied, “I love Jesus.”
She asked if I wanted to speak with a pastor, I said, “Nope, Jesus and I talk all the time.” She checked a box and walked out.
 
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As long as the check clears he will be approved….

I was raised 8 days a week in southern churches, bible school, etc…

My wife is Catholic…so our boys will be raised as well.

Im not anti religion, but organized religion definitely makes me cynical about some the things. Runs like a business and I think the Catholics have figured it out better than others.

This post is made in some jest…but….
I struggle with the same....
 

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My father, originally from Northern Ireland, converted to Catholicism on his death bed.
I said "Dad what are you doing!?"
His reply - "better one of them dies than one of ours" and then died.
 

SDTiger9

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As long as the check clears he will be approved….

I was raised 8 days a week in southern churches, bible school, etc…

My wife is Catholic…so our boys will be raised as well.

Im not anti religion, but organized religion definitely makes me cynical about some the things. Runs like a business and I think the Catholics have figured it out better than others.

This post is made in some jest…but….

The Roman Catholic Church actually OWNS 1.1% (71.6 MILLION HECTARES out of 6.6 billion available) of the global available land mass. Just a stunning value. And wow at all of the Aussies. Makes sense but not something you immediately think about.
 
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What’s so astounding? It’s just saying he was another type of Christian before becoming catholic and not like an agnostic or whatever
Catholics are by definition Christian. The founder of the Church was an apostle of Christ. Every Catholic is a Christian.

To say Freeman was a Christian before he became a Catholic is like saying he was Black before he became an African American.
 

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So I am going to assume that you have no earthly clue about Freeman's character or coaching
Well when you assume things you have no clue about, you make yourself look like an idiot...I've known him since he was 15...I know his father, Michael and his mother, Chong...his father is retired Air Force and met his mom when he was in Korea...i also know how arrogant Marcus is, although he puts up a nice facade...as far as his coaching abilities, Stevie Wonder could see he's over his head...he was a woke choice to replace Kelly and he's headed down the Tyrone Willingham path to somewhere else in a few years...now, tell me what close personal friends you are with him and what a great person and coach he's going to be...
 

PAWrocka

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John 14:6 NIV

"“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me"

The Pope, Cardinals, Priests ... are all unnecessary and praying to them or asking forgiveness from them is blasphemy.

No need to kneel before a pauper false king in Rome.
 

tigerworx

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This is just infelicitous phrasing that clearly was supposed to mean that he was already a Christian before joining a Catholic Church. I don’t care for some of the ways Catholics talk about themselves, or for some of their theology, but it’s a beautiful tradition that’s clearly within Christian orthodoxy.
What do you think 'Christian orthodoxy' means?
 

tigerworx

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Catholics are by definition Christian. The founder of the Church was an apostle of Christ. Every Catholic is a Christian.

To say Freeman was a Christian before he became a Catholic is like saying he was Black before he became an African American.
That word.... Christian.....may not mean what you think it does....
 
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