I felt we’d lose this one. We did. I feel we win at Cameron, we will. I’ve been here a lot of years, never seen this many worthless posters after a loss. When you complain about our players, fine. When you start personally trashing them and calling them bums and other inflammatory names, we don’t need your *** here. Grow up. I hope our mods ban some of you soon. Post here like you would talk to them in person. If you were in the locker room sitting beside Grayson right now would you tell him he sucks? How bout Trevon, walk over, put your hand on his shoulder and call him a bum? If you’re so disappointed in our kids you hate them, get tf off this board, you’re wasting our time. Still time for this team to click. Yep we played pretty bad second half. But our kids aren’t trash. They’re not bums. Check yourself.
Man up or stop posting.
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If I was in the locker room sitting next next to Allen, I would say..... "With all due respect Mr. Allen, I had no idea that you had an experimental surgery to have your balls removed."
Amen Show. I'm right there with. Sick tired of it. Every game we lose. If I didn't know better I'd swear that they are UK and unc trolls because that's exactly what their fans do when they lose. It's pathetic that we have people like who say they are Duke fans that posting here. I'm calling bull crap on it. I'm challenging everyone of you who agrees with Show to put alike up or reply to his post here. They are ruining this board. You know who you are. I'm with Show in calling all of you out. Be a Duke fan and not some phony who thinks just because you are hiding behind a keyboard gives you the right to be like that. Respect the board and the kindness of our mods. Yes this is a free board and you can give your opinion but to go out and verbally abuse our team and coaching staff when you don't know crap about the game when you compare yourself to those you are criticizing then I personally think you shouldn't be allowed to post here. Now that's my opinion. OFC
Best damn post of the night!
Best post of year..a lot of us act like these players owe us something..grow up. On to the next game
I really hope most of those accounts are teenage kids. If a grown man has the audacity to insult 18 year old kids like we see in the game threads, that shows what kind of “man” they actually are.
That’s what has annoyed me the most about this board between last season and this season, all the posters that come out of the wood works when we lose or we’re playing bad but then they disappear into the shadows when we’re winning and playing good. It’s one of two reasons that I don’t post as much as I used to because it gets annoying seeing all the posters that constantly trash the team when we’re playing bad/losing but those same posters never praise the team when we’re playing good/winning. The other reason that I don’t post as much as I used to is because the older I get the more my bad temper that I had when I was younger comes back and I’d end up losing my temper and would probably end up getting banned.
All that, though on that second reason, avoiding situations where a bad temper gets away from you qualifies as a sign of a better temper.
And as obnoxious as the boo-birds are, what I like the least about them is that they fan the flames of the regulars who are already leaning toward the negative. Those guys never go away, and they're like a broken record, repeating the same whiny criticisms even after wins.
People get frustrated because this is not Duke basketball. Even K admits it.
Duke teams in the past use to:
1) Go on a run the last 5 minutes of the first half.
2) Go on a run the first 5 minutes of the second half.
3) Make more free throws than their oppoenents attempted.
4) Play smart and not turn the ball over along with taking the best shot
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5) Hustle and dive for loose balls
6) Great outside shooting.
The past two years especially this year.
1) Big lead first ten minutes of game then lose the lead the last five five minutes of the first half
2) Opposing team goes on a run and takes lead the first five minutes of the second half.
3) Miss free throws especially in key situations.
4) Too many turnovers caused by guys playing hero ball or making bad decisions.
5) No intensity on defense and being out hustled for rebounds and lose balls.
6) Lack outside scoring
7) No Senior Leadership
Duke teams in the past use to:
1) Go on a run the last 5 minutes of the first half.
2) Go on a run the first 5 minutes of the second half.
3) Make more free throws than their oppoenents attempted.
4) Play smart and not turn the ball over along with taking the best shot
.
5) Hustle and dive for loose balls
6) Great outside shooting.
The past two years especially this year.
1) Big lead first ten minutes of game then lose the lead the last five five minutes of the first half
2) Opposing team goes on a run and takes lead the first five minutes of the second half.
3) Miss free throws especially in key situations.
4) Too many turnovers caused by guys playing hero ball or making bad decisions.
5) No intensity on defense and being out hustled for rebounds and lose balls.
6) Lack outside scoring
7) No Senior Leadership
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I was upset last night, but I too expected a loss. Especially the way the first half ended, I told my wife I was watching the SJU game again. I still love my team and will pull my heart out for them, but my expectations are surely tempered. The main thing I hate is how bad Grayson is struggling. I really love that kid and wanted a big year for him.
Anyway GTHC...the sun still came up,
Go Devils!
Anyway GTHC...the sun still came up,
Go Devils!
I've posted on here since 2006, and I've always loved reading the posts here from the regulars. I may lurk more than post now but I have to call out some of these new posters.
The negativity on here after EVERY loss is embarrassing, you all need to find a new fan base or at the least a new team/school to root for.
Gosh Duke played a team that was shooting lights out last night and still played hard til the end. Yes they lost and made some bad turnovers (Duval and Allen) but I ain't giving up.
They're still cutting the nets down in April... Wait and see.
The negativity on here after EVERY loss is embarrassing, you all need to find a new fan base or at the least a new team/school to root for.
Gosh Duke played a team that was shooting lights out last night and still played hard til the end. Yes they lost and made some bad turnovers (Duval and Allen) but I ain't giving up.
They're still cutting the nets down in April... Wait and see.
Couldn’t have said it better. True fans stick by their teams. I can’t believe how many “I’m done with this team” comments I saw last night. All I gotta say is if you are done with this team, then you were never a fan to begin with IMO. Take a look around, there isn’t really a dominant team this year in college basketball and Duke has just about a good a chance as any team to make a run in the tournament. I certainly don’t see them losing in the first weekend like some have stated.
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It was a road loss in the ACC, yea it sucks, but at least they weren't blown out and had a real chance to win in the end but didn't execute.
I want to win as much as the next Duke fan does, but the reality is that Championship teams don't end the season undefeated. They either end it on about 10-13 game winning streak (outside of Louisville think they had 18 or 19) or 6. Last time I checked they still had time to do that! Lets Go Duke!
I want to win as much as the next Duke fan does, but the reality is that Championship teams don't end the season undefeated. They either end it on about 10-13 game winning streak (outside of Louisville think they had 18 or 19) or 6. Last time I checked they still had time to do that! Lets Go Duke!
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I love Duke basketball and have for a long time. I don't really see the stock in saying this isn't the Duke we are used to. Teams change. Every year won't be the same. I see some fundamentals of Duke on this years team but then some are lacking. That's okay. I know it's February but that's just it, it's February. We still have time. Over the years my feelings have been proven wrong in February for both good and bad. In 91, I was only 8 so I thought we were going to win just because Duke was my favorite and I didn't know any better. Same for 92. In 99, in February, no way I thought we lost to Uconn. And they way we lost, Jake Voskuhl put it to us and we didn't get a shot off at the end. In 2001, we lost to UNC at home in February, we lose Boozer, we lose to UVA, and we lose to Maryland at home. And guess what we still win it. In 04, in February I thought we has just as good a chance to win it as anyone and we blow a late 8 point lead with bad decision making in the final four. In '10, no way i thought we win it all in February. We lose to Georgetown and win a lot of games to unranked teams and lose to Maryland. That Maryland game turned it around. And then we all remember 2015. My point is this: a lot can change from now until March, a lot of Duke teams we have watched in the past have struggled with things, but that doesn't mean that they aren't the Duke teams we are used to. We have to improve and last night was really tough. But I am going to enjoy the process and I hope a lot of you are pleasantly surprised in April.
This team lacks the ability (at least present time) to FOCUS and put forth COMPLETE EFFORT for 40 MINUTES. I am not putting anyone down by name, bashing anybody, etc, but this is APPARENT.
No I dont have the answers, thats up to Coach K and his staff. However the prevailing theme from 3 of the last 4 games (Losses) is there was one really poor half of basketball played by Duke vs UVA, St.John's and UNC.
I know its getting late in the year, but I still think it can be fixed. No question the talent is there. OFC
No I dont have the answers, thats up to Coach K and his staff. However the prevailing theme from 3 of the last 4 games (Losses) is there was one really poor half of basketball played by Duke vs UVA, St.John's and UNC.
I know its getting late in the year, but I still think it can be fixed. No question the talent is there. OFC
The season isn't a bust cause we lose to unc or a few games. This is still a fun team to watch, with a great coach. There are plenty of Division 1 schools that would kill to have our record right now and our upsize as a team. We compete for a championship yr after yr. What a great team and school to cheer for.. GO DUKE!!
It's not all the new posters that crap on the Blue Devils after a loss,or a bad game..I've only been on here since November,but you will never hear any trashing of our team or our player's from me at any time,yes,I get frustrated,even pissed off at times,but i'll not put any negative or derogatory comments on this board.
No matter what I ride or die with Duke and will never take a shot at a player or coach. We all get frustrated buy these are MY boys, I am a Dukie through and through. I love the school, I love the kids, I love everything that is Duke. The way I see it we are in this together till I take my last f***ing breath on this planet.
Just because some of them are embarassed to face your UNC friends after a loss you take it out on the kids and the staff? That is a c*nt move. You aren't Duke fans you are what have you done for me latey fans and as far as I'm concerned you are not better than some of the UK/UNC trash fans. Get a damn clue. I'm sure some of you are trashing them to the UNC people you are having to face to day. You are a punk *** joke of a fan!
Have set of balls and don't make excuses. I came in to work today and faced two UNC fans right off the bat, I told them great game and the better team won tonight but I was proud of MY boys. They gave me **** on how our seasons isn't turning out how the hight expectations aren't being met, not in a D-Bag way just B-Ball talk. I told them we'll see how it plays out but I will be there for every second of every game pulling for MY Bluedevils. I don't give a **** if we are 0-24 I am rolling with Duke and rocking my gear. To hell with some of you.
Just because some of them are embarassed to face your UNC friends after a loss you take it out on the kids and the staff? That is a c*nt move. You aren't Duke fans you are what have you done for me latey fans and as far as I'm concerned you are not better than some of the UK/UNC trash fans. Get a damn clue. I'm sure some of you are trashing them to the UNC people you are having to face to day. You are a punk *** joke of a fan!
Have set of balls and don't make excuses. I came in to work today and faced two UNC fans right off the bat, I told them great game and the better team won tonight but I was proud of MY boys. They gave me **** on how our seasons isn't turning out how the hight expectations aren't being met, not in a D-Bag way just B-Ball talk. I told them we'll see how it plays out but I will be there for every second of every game pulling for MY Bluedevils. I don't give a **** if we are 0-24 I am rolling with Duke and rocking my gear. To hell with some of you.
We do realize that Coach K and these guys with Duke on their shirts don't owe us anything, right? I mean when they make mistakes it's not because they are trying to hurt us, correct?
My heart goes out to Grayson right now. He has to be suffering, if not physically (and I'm not sure he is healthy) then emotionally. These are good kids who represent the program we love. If they are too young to play as a team, or Grayson has something going on that prevents him from being the player we remember, well I feel badly but I won't like them any less. Because as I said, they wear the name Duke on their shirts and they are our guys.
Having said that, if Grayson hits a few more shots, and Trevon cuts down on some of the out of control passes and shots, and maybe we defend the high pick and roll a little better, I think they will be exactly the team we were hoping for.
My heart goes out to Grayson right now. He has to be suffering, if not physically (and I'm not sure he is healthy) then emotionally. These are good kids who represent the program we love. If they are too young to play as a team, or Grayson has something going on that prevents him from being the player we remember, well I feel badly but I won't like them any less. Because as I said, they wear the name Duke on their shirts and they are our guys.
Having said that, if Grayson hits a few more shots, and Trevon cuts down on some of the out of control passes and shots, and maybe we defend the high pick and roll a little better, I think they will be exactly the team we were hoping for.
I am disappointed in last night and our recent struggles but of course I am still a fan. I live in Washington and the Huskies are 17-6 and I was thinking "wow they are doing great and will make the tournament." And we have a better record with a tougher schedule. So all is not lost. We will probably be a 3 or a 4 or a 5 seed barring a drastic turnaround but that is okay. I am hoping we pull a MSU and make a run after being lowly seeded as they have done in the past. I think we will win Sunday. While I feel posts should be respectful I do feel people have the right to vent; as we are all frustrated. So long as the criticism is not personal and meanspirited. We are close to being a very good team. Here's hoping we turn the corner before it is too late. Go Duke!
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I’m never giving up on my squad. I still put my money on Duke because I’ve seen us play great. Yes we struggle keeping energy on the road but I guess that’s because we’re young. You can’t relax on the road when you’re Duke. At home it’s not as bad because we have that crowd energy to give us that boost. I believe in a tournament setting we will look better. It’ll be a neutral or pro Duke crowd and the other team can’t feed off crowd energy as much. It’ll come down to talent and execution. So I’m not worried at all. Freshmen teams struggle on the road. Especially when it’s a sellout and the other team doesn’t show u what film has showed all year.
It's just the opposite for unc. They only come out of the wood work when they win. Could they be one in the same? OFC
Shot lights out? 40% is lights out? - they shot 15 more shots than we did which is what killed us - rebounding
This is a message board. Get over yourself or find the Pollyanna board. Team is soft and hasn’t been interested in defense all year. K says they didn’t play up to program standards yet the same 5 start and the same crap occurs.
If that reality bothers you too bad
Lavar, kiss my *** bud. Really. Sorry your reading comprehension is so weak. Nobody is saying you can't cry about the loss, we're saying don't make personal threats and comments at coaches and players, if that reality bothers you, too bad.
And if a thread that supports our team unnerves you, stay off of it.
I always try and draw parallels. It's not the same, I get that. But it's a helpful life lesson for me.
When my kids, a family member, a friend, what have you, screws up, I'm upset. I don't tell them to get over themselves. I don't call them soft. I don't tell them they're not living up to my standards. I don't give up on them.
Again, I understand this is sports and not 'real' life. But judging by your posts, you haven't grasped that reality yet.
Would love to see you do that.As an ex athlete you would have a long day if you did.Dont know your background but I promise you that you would not like the results of that conversation
All of you posters that myself and Show are calling out let me ask a question. Let's say your son is playing a youth sport and things aren't going well. Do you sit in the stands and yell at the coach, your son or other players on the bench. I'm sure you would be giving the officials a hard time. Better still this question. What if the guy sitting next to you is yelling and blaming your son. What do you do then. Some of these post remind me of some of the parents in the youth leagues I keep score in. Any reply is wanted. I just want to know what makes you tick so I can understand you better as a Duke fan. OFC
Solid comparison.
It sucks we're not what we're capable of. I really believe the pre-season hype hurts us the most. We come into the season expecting to be so great.. Then we win a few and a big win over MSU and we think "whoa this team is awesome".. then we start to lose and not look so good so people get super upset. I'm upset really upset actually but all my crying and moaning ain't helping one little thing. BUT as a message board this is a place to vent with other Duke fans. We talk about our frustrations and what should "change" because after all we are all Monday morning quarterbacks in a sense. This message board for some is a rah rah place which is fine but for others it's a vent like I said. Kinda silly to trash other fans for being upset and showing it.
And DJ this wasn't directed toward you outside of the good comparison part
So I guess its ok for a guy to say kiss my *** but its not ok to question a teams toughness. ok makes sense
enough of the internet tough guy routine. Weakens any argument you think you have
All I would say pisgah, is that we're all upset. You're no more upset than me and I'm no more upset than you. That applies to all of us.
People saying saying so-and-so sucks, or K doesn't know what he's doing, it's the same thing every year, bench this guy, K should be embarrassed, etc....it sounds ridiculous. And every one of things was said on one page of the game thread last night. How does that anything to any kind of discussion?
Read my posts the last two weeks. I've haven't been rah-rah. And I'm considered by some to lead the rah-rah crowd. This team has issues. I know that. You know that. Every single Duke poster on this board knows it. Some just handle it different. But folks who want to continue supporting this group, who want to believe and who don't take a childish stance and pout in a corner like someone stole their basketball are considered the one's living in the clouds? That doesn't make even a little sense in any walk of life.
Where did you question their toughness? You said they were soft. That's pretty matter-of-fact, isn't it?
I think we have posters that are too over the top from both sides. Up until this season, I've never been too gung ho over freshmen. Not only did I buy the hype, I started selling it too. I have learned the hard way.
I am embarrassed that I bought into the hype over our star studded freshmen class, thinking they would dominate, and I thought Grayson would be better than he has been. The part though that irritates me is to hear some of the same people that were leading the charge to then say Whoa! Whoa! we are young and going to struggle some. It's as frustrating to read those posts as it is to read the posters that only show up when we lose, call for K's head 10 minutes into the game, or want Grayson benched for Buckmire.
The extreme goes both ways, not trying to make anyone ill, but that's how I see it.
I guess it's my fault, I told my (UNC grad) President of our Company that Duke would give up 80 points. OOPS, they gave up 82.
For the first time I'm really starting to sour on this OAD recruiting. What do we as fans get out of it? K's teams never guard any more and if the excuse for bad defense every year is youth then stop this kind of recruiting. Give me top 30-50 kids who become JUNIORS AND SENIORS as opposed to cherry picking the top 10 with glossy ranked kids with one eye already on the NBA who couldn't guard me if they tried.
I'm only saying what some may be slowly thinking. If it weren't for 2015 what would you all be saying about "all this talent" K has brought in?
For the first time I'm really starting to sour on this OAD recruiting. What do we as fans get out of it? K's teams never guard any more and if the excuse for bad defense every year is youth then stop this kind of recruiting. Give me top 30-50 kids who become JUNIORS AND SENIORS as opposed to cherry picking the top 10 with glossy ranked kids with one eye already on the NBA who couldn't guard me if they tried.
I'm only saying what some may be slowly thinking. If it weren't for 2015 what would you all be saying about "all this talent" K has brought in?
I said they were soft which to me speaks to toughness. I love everything about Duke hoops but in the past K would send a message which he did a couple of press conferences ago and weeks ago with the defensive effort. He said that they didn't play up to the standards of the program yet, the exact same 5 started once again and the same issues were present - lackluster defense, bad point guard play and a senior who is being way to passive as a leader.
I am not in the locker room so I have no idea if personalities are too fragile or what but this team is way to passive and emotionless 90% of the time which is not the Duke style.