Malachi Coleman

leodisflowers

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Keep the processing rolling. Loved the kids story, but glad this is happening. 105 is a whole new animal and need to keep this up to get to where we need to go.
 

oldjar07

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Well that would be hypocritical of this staff to hold that against him considering how well the other WR's block.

It's always telling where someone ends up.
Agreed, the piss poor blocking we've seen has been an indictment on the coaching staff. There's zero reason a 6'3" bigger bodied receiver couldn't be able to learn to block. That is, unless the issue has just never been addressed in practices. There's a common denominator behind the multiple instances on the roster.
 

SLOHusker

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Have the feeling he just wasn’t committed to playing D1 football like Zavier Betts.

I wonder who the freshmen DH was referring to in his press conference? Could it have been Coleman?
Yeah I'm really tired of guys with zero desire taking up roster spots. If he transfers he likely won't be anything special anywhere else.
Wandale Robinson is a completely different story. That guy threw everything he had into playing wherever Frost asked him. Frost having him run up the middle three plays in a row was misuse of a player and it was a rare time when I really thought it was in the player's best interest to transfer away.
I want more Wandale Robinsons.
 

oldjar07

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Yeah I'm really tired of guys with zero desire taking up roster spots. If he transfers he likely won't be anything special anywhere else.
Wandale Robinson is a completely different story. That guy threw everything he had into playing wherever Frost asked him. Frost having him run up the middle three plays in a row was misuse of a player and it was a rare time when I really thought it was in the player's best interest to transfer away.
I want more Wandale Robinsons.
It would have been a waste not to run Wandale up the middle, because our qb then wasn't able to get the ball to him.
 

SLOHusker

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Agreed, the piss poor blocking we've seen has been an indictment on the coaching staff. There's zero reason a 6'3" bigger bodied receiver couldn't be able to learn to block. That is, unless the issue has just never been addressed in practices. There's a common denominator behind the multiple instances on the roster.
Agreed. Blocking is entirely learnable and it's a matter of focus and attitude to learn to do it well. Sometimes receivers only really care about catching the ball and don't focus on running good routes and blocking. NFL receivers are expected to block well so these guys might as well learn it now if they hope to play at the next level.
 

SLOHusker

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It would have been a waste not to run Wandale up the middle, because our qb then wasn't able to get the ball to him.
It always made so much sense to see a 175 pound receiver/running back slamming into 300 pound DTs. Especially since the OL was a completely inept as run blocking.
 
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Attitude and chemistry across the board are what make good teams. All good teams have it. We don’t. Rhule claimed he was going to create that culture. Then he didn’t. Coleman is probably a good example of a talented kid with a poor attitude. If he really is leaving the team it will s probably a good sign of change in the air.
 
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Attitude and chemistry across the board are what make good teams. All good teams have it. We don’t. Rhule claimed he was going to create that culture. Then he didn’t. Coleman is probably a good example of a talented kid with a poor attitude. If he really is leaving the team it will s probably a good sign of change in the air.
IDK, his recruiting ranking was based solely on physical attributes. He never really had eye popping stats as a high school player. As has been stated in this thread, maybe he just didn't have the love of the game to play at a P4 level.
 

nostromo78

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I spent a ton of time around this kid and his HS team. A ton. I am 0% surprised by this. I wont rag on the kid, I was sort of pulling for him, although it was hard because I have seen some stuff that I didn't agree with from him, but Im not putting any of this on the program.
 

redwine65

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seems like Coleman had speed, could get separation, and could block...so does he have bad hands or missed practice? whats the issue?
 

NorthWillRiseAgain

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seems like Coleman had speed, could get separation, and could block...so does he have bad hands or missed practice? whats the issue?
Don’t believe he had ever gotten his routes down, at least last year. That’s what limited them on when they could use him.
 

Headcard

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Don’t believe he had ever gotten his routes down, at least last year. That’s what limited them on when they could use him.

It sounds like he has missed a lot of time. He had the should surgery and has been in and ou of practice with injuries all year. I think it was a recurring theme last year, too. You can't talk about competition and then just turn around and play a guy that doesn't practice.
 
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Shoxsker

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Lloyd plays quite a bit. The problem is our QB finding him on deep routes. His yardage per catch is very good but he's pretty small when your OC can't scheme guys open. I'm not sure he weighs over 165lbs which makes it tough trying to block safeties.
Looked to me to have gained some good weight.
 
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IDK, his recruiting ranking was based solely on physical attributes. He never really had eye popping stats as a high school player. As has been stated in this thread, maybe he just didn't have the love of the game to play at a P4 level.
I think this is probably true. And quite likely true as well for many highly rated recruits coming out of high school who end up not doing much in college
 

BigB87

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I think this is probably true. And quite likely true as well for many highly rated recruits coming out of high school who end up not doing much in college
Ya, his physical attributes were really impressive, that size and speed combo is rare. But you can have all the athletic ability in the world and still not be a good football player. Whether it's desire/drive, work ethic, etc. sometimes there's just something missing.

I was really curious with not having seen him at all this year if something was going on.
 

leodisflowers

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IDK, his recruiting ranking was based solely on physical attributes. He never really had eye popping stats as a high school player. As has been stated in this thread, maybe he just didn't have the love of the game to play at a P4 level.
Yep. He was a project that didn't pan out. With his size and speed he should have dominated Nebraska HS football and he didn't whatsoever. I didn't mind taking a flier on him, but now with the 105.... Too bad he didn't put it all together, but time to move on.
 

Big bo fan

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I spent a ton of time around this kid and his HS team. A ton. I am 0% surprised by this. I wont rag on the kid, I was sort of pulling for him, although it was hard because I have seen some stuff that I didn't agree with from him, but Im not putting any of this on the program.
And you shouldn’t. I know little about the kid. But I have seen more than enough posts from OPs like yourself on both boards that seems to be in the know about this kid and are not surprised. So I have come to the conclusion that in this situation it is player Problem and not a program culture problem.
 

Laner2

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I like most of the posts on this matter. Regardless of what he does it would be crappy to bang on the guy throughout a thread. This isn't intended to be laudatory toward him. I wish he could have worked out here because as many have said, he has some top-shelf physical attributes but the team really needs more Kenny Bells than projects. Hoping MC finds what he's looking for.
 

jteten

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It sucks because he is a local kid, but we should be able to replace him from a talent perspective.
 

jteten

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Attitude and chemistry across the board are what make good teams. All good teams have it. We don’t. Rhule claimed he was going to create that culture. Then he didn’t. Coleman is probably a good example of a talented kid with a poor attitude. If he really is leaving the team it will s probably a good sign of change in the air.
So you don’t think Rhule has improved the culture at all, regardless of the last few weeks? Interesting. If we win out, is the culture then better?
 

huskerfan1414

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IDK, his recruiting ranking was based solely on physical attributes. He never really had eye popping stats as a high school player. As has been stated in this thread, maybe he just didn't have the love of the game to play at a P4 level.
Correct on rankings.

And I will add He didnt love it enough even to play in high school.
 

redwine65

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I like most of the posts on this matter. Regardless of what he does it would be crappy to bang on the guy throughout a thread. This isn't intended to be laudatory toward him. I wish he could have worked out here because as many have said, he has some top-shelf physical attributes but the team really needs more Kenny Bells than projects. Hoping MC finds what he's looking for.
I'd take a 3 Stanley Morgans
 

Shimmer003

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What happened to the two big time WR’s out of Bellevue west from last years class? Any potential there?
 

thall_

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Yep. He was a project that didn't pan out. With his size and speed he should have dominated Nebraska HS football and he didn't whatsoever. I didn't mind taking a flier on him, but now with the 105.... Too bad he didn't put it all together, but time to move on.
is that so? I thought he was some total stud that lit it up, but I never bothered to look at the numbers.
 

tmcats

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This is going to become a norm for high school recruits, especially overrated ones. I don't mean overrated in negative manner but any 4 star from Nebraska is overrated because the competition is just so far below that of Georgia, California, or Texas. It would have made more sense for him to transfer to a top High school conference for a year or two and get used to playing against equal competition. A guy with his tools can have terrible technique and no understanding of football or even care about learning about it and still dominate, and his high school stats weren't record breaking as far as I remember.

A teenager with high expectations or who is being told and paid like they are great will find themselves in a room with 4th or 5th year seniors, grown *** men who are smarter, stronger, graduated from college and hungry to make the league. Guys who have played in 2-4 systems, know how to take care of their bodies and love football, considering they are still playing. These guys immediately become coach and qb favorites, even if they are incomplete players. The WR position is a precision position, as they all are. Our starters may be terrible at blocking but they mostly run the right routes and are physical with the ball. Malachi hasn't shown any WR skills yet, from crisp route running, to blocking, to elite ball skills. He is a big, fast kid who could stretch the defense but only if he could also block and run interior routes...otherwise teams will just double when he is in. This is an indictment on Rhule though, and his "development" plan. Just another nail in the his coffin that points to the fact he has no idea how to coach in this modern era. The last time he coached college there wasn't NIL, auto-transfers and he wasn't in a super conference with 10 really good teams.
this is a seriously flawed statement. reality is that youngsters in the midlands most often develop late - in college - because high schools up here do not practice football 24/7/365 as they do in the south. texas recruiting was often off because they took 4/5* texas high school kids who were spent by the time they got to austin.
 

notscottfrost

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this is a seriously flawed statement. reality is that youngsters in the midlands most often develop late - in college - because high schools up here do not practice football 24/7/365 as they do in the south. texas recruiting was often off because they took 4/5* texas high school kids who were spent by the time they got to austin.
Well, develop later in a sport where kids can transfer at anytime and you can't focus on development means these kids shouldn't be 4 or 5 star kids. You just cannot wait for a kids to mature for 3 years before getting production anymore. Reps are limited, you have to buy the best guys available from the portal, get them coached up in the system and get them on the field as soon as possible. I believe we are both right. Malachi is a great physical talent who wasn't yet a great football player and Nebraska can't get him the reps to become a good football player because the clock is always ticking.

Now there are underrated midlands kids who can come in a play right away, who are mature, physically and mentally but obviously those aren't the few 4 or 5 star kids. A 4 star midlands, central plains kid rating is purely based on physical skill set since their competition is so weak, even if they do a couple camps or an all-star game here or there.
 

Rick.Shaw1

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That’s some pretty flawed logic. Not making it here, but will be a star at another school.
A star? What tells you that? He wasn’t a huge difference maker in high school (saw him play about 5 times). There were games you never heard his name (and he’s the only National top 100 kid Nebraska’s ever had that was a second team all Stater on at least one of the two major newspapers). I think he’s a great athlete but not a great football player. Maybe he’ll get better as the years pass. My brother coached him in 3 sports when he was a youth. And he agrees - great great athlete but not a difference making football player up to this point (including high school).