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pmvon

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not optimistic.. my uneducated guess is that it will take years for him to trust that knee again and play as hard. Fingers crossed, of course. COuld it be that defender stepping on his heel kept his foot from getting better positioned under his knee before the leap?
Didn’t see that. Good pic to see what could have happened. Video seemed like he was untouched
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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Mag also has faced more injuries than anyone i can recall early in his career. Does not strike me as a guy who will holld back in any instances. Especially someone to not trust his knee for years lmao. wtf haha
It amazes me you guys have never heard that about injuries in sports. Knees and ankles. They say that when they go on these young athletes that, until that point, the athletes never think of the joint at all.. they depend on it without thinking about it. Make it do crazy things. But after the injury things are different, even if it was repaired perfectly.

Now, I don't want that to be the case. But it could be. It is well within the realm of possibilities. Do you think a recovered Mag will ever set his feet that wide again putting that kind of pressure going up for a shot? I don't think so. But maybe he'll be a better player not doing so.. I do not know.
 
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SJScarlet

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It amazes me you guys have never heard that about injuries in sports. Knees and ankles. They say that when they go on these young athletes that, until that point, the athletes never think of the joint at all.. they depend on it without thinking about it. Make it do crazy things. But after the injury things are different, even if it was repaired perfectly.

Now, I don't want that to be the case. But it could be. It is well within the realm of possibilities. Do you think a recovered Mag will ever set his feet that wide again putting that kind of pressure going up for a shot? I don't think so. But maybe he'll be a better player not doing so.. I do not know.
Set his feet that wide? The MSU player stepped on his heel when he lifted off, causing the injury.
 
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not optimistic.. my uneducated guess is that it will take years for him to trust that knee again and play as hard. Fingers crossed, of course. COuld it be that defender stepping on his heel kept his foot from getting better positioned under his knee before the leap?
If he came back as aggressive or more aggressive from getting his teeth knocked out not once but twice I’m not concerned with him trusting his knee.
 

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he was in pain in the air. Caused by the planted shoe on the back of his in my opnion. Was only able to grab it once landing.
 

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not optimistic.. my uneducated guess is that it will take years for him to trust that knee again and play as hard. Fingers crossed, of course. COuld it be that defender stepping on his heel kept his foot from getting better positioned under his knee before the leap?
I agree.

He just started trusting his teeth again after what happened last year.
 

mildone_rivals

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They probably had to wait for the swelling to go down to get a clear scan of the knee.
They often don't produce a lot of swelling. Sometimes don't even hurt all that much. I would bet that the trainer was 90% sure what it was in the locker room at or before halftime.

Assuming the MRI was done the next day, that's when they all knew for sure that it was an ACL tear.

We can only guess at the reasons for the delay in releasing the news to the public. But there could be numerous reasons for it, some medical, some not.
 

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They often don't produce a lot of swelling. Sometimes don't even hurt all that much. I would bet that the trainer was 90% sure what it was in the locker room at or before halftime.

Assuming the MRI was done the next day, that's when they all knew for sure that it was an ACL tear.

We can only guess at the reasons for the delay in releasing the news to the public. But there could be numerous reasons for it, some medical, some not.
For whatever it's worth Jaelin Llewellyn on Michigan went down in the game on December 4. His was more obvious than Mag's, he had to be carried off, didn't return to the bench, etc. Michigan didn't officially announce his injury until December 7. It's just how things go.

EDIT Just realized it was the exact same timeline two months to the day. December 4/February 4 injury, December 7/February 7 announcement.
 
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mildone_rivals

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For whatever it's worth Jaelin Llewellyn on Michigan went down in the game on December 4. His was more obvious than Mag's, he had to be carried off, didn't return to the bench, etc. Michigan didn't officially announce his injury until December 7. It's just how things go.
Exactly.
 

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All knee injuries appear the same to the uneducated medical experts at Rutgers . The road back with this ACL injury is tough, frustrating and sometimes never heals correctly. There are many new updated surgical techniques in the orthopedic field for knees and rehabilitation is even more advanced. I have no doubt Mawot will work tremendously hard over the next year. To be realistic I’m not expecting him back until fall of 2024. That is not set in stone but if he is back before next season’s opening I’ll be ecstatic. He is a warrior like several of our other players and their coach. Mawot, I have enjoyed watching you since you first committed to Rutgers. I wish to see you once again playing the game the way it should be played. GO Mawot GO RU beat Indiana.
 

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Ugh that blows. I had a feeling it was either going to be a meniscus or Ligament tear. I had knee surgeries on both my knees. Next man up. We still have guys that play!
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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Hopefully, tonight's performance just means we need more time to adjust. And, also hopefully, Mag has great determination and success with his surgery and rehab.
 

mildone_rivals

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Hopefully, tonight's performance just means we need more time to adjust. And, also hopefully, Mag has great determination and success with his surgery and rehab.
I wonder if the effort to compensate for Mag’s D is part of why PM, CM and CO were so bad tonight on O. The bench did okay. But our starters really struggled.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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I wonder if the effort to compensate for Mag’s D is part of why PM, CM and CO were so bad tonight on O. The bench did okay. But our starters really struggled.
yeah.. that's what I was thinking. And maybe Caleb tried to put too much O on his shoulders. He should not be taking threes at all.. and several times he should have passed rather than shot.

I give Indiana and their coach credit for attacking our offense early. It was also good to see they couldn't keep it up the whole game like we do. I do think our guys with new level of minutes will learn and they will begin to gel... if they do not, look out, because future scout film will find the weak points and ways to leverage them.

In some ways, our hot 3-point shooting early made the game look closer than it should have been.
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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Those 3s helped but that’s not sustainable and we didn’t need to be down 13 points in the first place.

The turning point was when Cliff picked up a foul at the 12:49 mark (score was 13-11 Indiana). Pike subs in 3 bench players. It’s a disaster. Pike calls time out and brings Cliff back into the game at the 9 minute mark. At that point - the score is 25-14 Indiana. Unfortunately, Wolf was not playable in this game.