Mac McClung at Georgetown

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Thanks for your intelligent comments.
It's actually the most intelligent comment in this thread.

Anecdotal thinkers who say things like "so and so was underrated so obviously the ratings are meaningless" are not worth discussing anything with.

That's not how the world works.

And it causes massive unhappiness for them, because every year they can sift through all 5000 cbb players who were unknown as recruits and find 50 who are now stars in hindsight.

Similarly, a dumb fan can sift through the 320+ nobody schools who never sniff the guys that uk, Duke, Kansas, Arizona get, and between those 300, they'll find five squads that perform at a similar level - then it's "look, that guy knows how to do it! That's how a real coach does it!"

For every kid who blows up like that from that ranking, how many end up doing nothing?

This isn't a matter of opinion. It's a matter of basic logical understanding. People who are using their brains do not draw broad conclusions from examples like that.
 
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I remember people on here talking about him. Most said he is just a 3 star, we don't want a 3 star here. The same ones that said that also said he is not quick enough, and he is only good because he doesn't play against any body. He looks pretty good to me.
I was one of the ones. I watched him several times in high school. Everyone said he wouldn’t make it in college and wasn’t our caliber player. Even last year people were still downing him as a 1 truck pony. The kid is a gamer. And he’s improving steadily. Would love to have had him at UK. He can at least score it. Something we’ve struggled to do.
 
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Or to mention that Georgetown's leading scorer is Omer Yurtseven, a 7 footer averaging 18/10 and 2 blocks.

I mean, if you're going to pine for Georgetown players, why not him?

I have some ideas about that, but Merry Christmas.
I’d have taken him too even though he’s a senior. He’s skilled. McClung is a Soph averaging 16 while shooting 40% from 3 and a great athlete. You think he couldn’t contribute here?
 

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I’d have taken him too even though he’s a senior. He’s skilled. McClung is a Soph averaging 16 while shooting 40% from 3 and a great athlete. You think he couldn’t contribute here?
Maybe?

I know that one of the guys that UK took instead of him is currently averaging 14 ppg. In the NBA.

McClung is a solid player, but he's also an undersized 2 guard on what's probably a bubble team, with a very, very green light. You can't just transfer stats without context.
 
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Maybe?

I know that one of the guys that UK took instead of him is currently averaging 14 ppg. In the NBA.

McClung is a solid player, but he's also an undersized 2 guard on what's probably a bubble team, with a very, very green light. You can't just transfer stats without context.
The guy in the NBA averaging 14ppg was also an underrated player people said was a social media phenom who wouldn’t make it or play while he’s here. I’m not saying McClung is anywhere near Herro but it wouldn’t hurt to have a guy like him who can shoot it and plays hard on our squad. I agree with you. You can’t transfer stats but if a guy is super athletic, could shoot it in HS, is still shooting it well now then I’d say there’s a fair chance he could have helped us. That not just for McClung though. I’m sure there’s others out there in the same position. I only say McClung because I’ve actually watched him in person and several on the board were adamant that he would be trash in college.
 

UK90

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There’s this dude hunter mcclintock in the 2022 class, his mixtapes are unreal!! Hope Cal gives him a look.

This is out of touch and a couple years late. People were making this same joke two years ago when McClung first came up here, and it seemed appropriate back then ...but it appears we were wrong.

McClung is not like McClintock. He ain't just a mixtape marvel, instead it turns out he can really play.
 
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Cal has received massive complaints that he hasn’t landed any top five players in 4 or 5 years and people are really going to lament because he didn’t recruit a 3 star!!!!!!!????
This is a whole new level of stupidity.
There are approximately 365 Div 1 schools with at least 10 players each. I’m sure out of the 3,500 players we could find a few diamonds among the pebbles but most a pebbles.
 

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Cal has received massive complaints that he hasn’t landed any top five players in 4 or 5 years and people are really going to lament because he didn’t recruit a 3 star!!!!!!!????
This is a whole new level of stupidity.
There are approximately 365 Div 1 schools with at least 10 players each. I’m sure out of the 3,500 players we could find a few diamonds among the pebbles but most a pebbles.

While we are on that....why didn't he get Ja Morant?
 

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Could never figure out how maclung wasn't rated much higher. 50 inch vertical with handle and range; and terrific scorer.
I’m frankly not familiar with the kid but I was wondering the same thing myself as I read through this thread.
 

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Could never figure out how maclung wasn't rated much higher. 50 inch vertical with handle and range; and terrific scorer.

No one has a 50 inch vertical.

Can McClung hit his nose on the rim? No, he can't. So he doesn't have a 50 inch vertical.

Excellent leaper, for sure, but he's not Superman.

As for the rating, it was based on competition level in HS and the fact that when he played high level AAU ball (Adidas, on a team with Armando Bacot and David McCormack), he didn't really stand out. Good enough to draw the attention of high level D1, not enough of substance for the really big dogs to get involved.

He seems headed for a nice college career, for sure, probably All-Big East for at least a few years. But last year, he was a sub 40% overall, sub 30% from 3 shooter. Going to a slightly less pressure situation was probably the right move for him to maximize his college career. Got him early PT and more room to grow than if he was competing for time on a top 20 team.
 
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Maybe Cal should have looked at this kid. A three star guard from a small town in Southwest Virginia. He is a sophomore and has averaged 25 points per game in the last five games (all wins) and has been named Big East player two weeks in a row. He is the all time leading scorer in Virginia High School basketball. Sometimes the stars don't mean everything.





I wonder how VA let him get away?
 
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No one has a 50 inch vertical.

Can McClung hit his nose on the rim? No, he can't. So he doesn't have a 50 inch vertical.

Excellent leaper, for sure, but he's not Superman.

As for the rating, it was based on competition level in HS and the fact that when he played high level AAU ball (Adidas, on a team with Armando Bacot and David McCormack), he didn't really stand out. Good enough to draw the attention of high level D1, not enough of substance for the really big dogs to get involved.

He seems headed for a nice college career, for sure, probably All-Big East for at least a few years. But last year, he was a sub 40% overall, sub 30% from 3 shooter. Going to a slightly less pressure situation was probably the right move for him to maximize his college career. Got him early PT and more room to grow than if he was competing for time on a top 20 team.

Can he hit his nose on the rim? Looks like he can or close.

The rest I agree must've been the concern
 
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He won’t make it in the pros, so he’s irrelevant to Cal. Kentucky is about preparing players for their professional basketball careers, not winning games.
My gripes w/ Cal are few and far between, but this might be the one that irks me the most. Passing on recruiting a lot of really good COLLEGE players!

Yeah, UK obliviously needs the elite talents, but there’s always room for the McClung’s of the world.

I’d honestly trade straight up, him for one of Cal’s 5* this season.
 

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I wonder how VA let him get away?
Both Virginia and Virginia Tech let him get away. His dad was a football player at Virginia Tech. Neither recruited him until after he committed to Georgetown and then Virginia Tech called him to try and get a visit.
 

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No one has a 50 inch vertical.

Can McClung hit his nose on the rim? No, he can't. So he doesn't have a 50 inch vertical.

Excellent leaper, for sure, but he's not Superman.

As for the rating, it was based on competition level in HS and the fact that when he played high level AAU ball (Adidas, on a team with Armando Bacot and David McCormack), he didn't really stand out. Good enough to draw the attention of high level D1, not enough of substance for the really big dogs to get involved.

He seems headed for a nice college career, for sure, probably All-Big East for at least a few years. But last year, he was a sub 40% overall, sub 30% from 3 shooter. Going to a slightly less pressure situation was probably the right move for him to maximize his college career. Got him early PT and more room to grow than if he was competing for time on a top 20 team.
I think the poster was being a little facetious.
 

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I have followed McClung's career and he would have been the perfect multi year player here, but I don't think Cal wants that.
 

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I don’t understand why Cal doesn’t recruit some kids like this instead of having available scholarships.
 
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Maybe Cal should have looked at this kid. A three star guard from a small town in Southwest Virginia. He is a sophomore and has averaged 25 points per game in the last five games (all wins) and has been named Big East player two weeks in a row. He is the all time leading scorer in Virginia High School basketball. Sometimes the stars don't mean everything.

Cal would rather get some 4 star kid from California, for whatever reason.
 

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I mean, if you're going to pine for Georgetown players, why not him

I have some ideas about that, but Merry Christmas.

Likely bc our fanbase is obsessed w 3 point % since it’s a weak spot currently.

And secondly, and the biggest reason he’s coming up out of all he options in D1, bc McClung came from our backyard and was a high visibility recruit/household name bc the YouTube sensation similar to the fans beating the Chris Lofton horse for years....or Shelving Mack when he was at Butler...so on and so forth.

If you’re looking for it you’ll always find a way to make it about that nonsense......There are people that think that way sure, but often It’s not as deep as your last comment is trying to make it and insinuates our fanbase is racist. That’s not a much better comment than Disney twisting Rupps story and making us the evil racist school in Glory Road

You’re a much better poster and significantly more intelligent poster than to make snide baiting post.
 

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Cal has received massive complaints that he hasn’t landed any top five players in 4 or 5 years and people are really going to lament because he didn’t recruit a 3 star!!!!!!!????
This is a whole new level of stupidity.
There are approximately 365 Div 1 schools with at least 10 players each. I’m sure out of the 3,500 players we could find a few diamonds among the pebbles but most a pebbles.

You do realize it's not an either/or choice, right?

The issue is not whether we should offer a three star or a five star. Instead, it's whether we should occasionally offer a three star or NOBODY and simply leave extra scholarships unused, which is what Cal has been choosing to do in recent years (for example, we have three unused scholarships this year).

There have been countless cases of powerhouse programs that have benefited greatly from three star recruits that they took a chance on (some recent examples include Frank Mason becoming National Player of the Year at Kansas, Donte Divincenzo being Final Four MVP at Villanova, Luke Maye being integral to UNC's Championship run, etc.).

But UK is less likely to find those diamonds in the rough because, absent an extremely rare exception (Hawkins), Cal won't even try. He'd rather leave spots empty than do that.
 
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Cal has received massive complaints that he hasn’t landed any top five players in 4 or 5 years and people are really going to lament because he didn’t recruit a 3 star!!!!!!!????
This is a whole new level of stupidity.
There are approximately 365 Div 1 schools with at least 10 players each. I’m sure out of the 3,500 players we could find a few diamonds among the pebbles but most a pebbles.


What isn't a whole new level of stupidity is Cal definitely has and is dropping in signing good teams based on his salary level. That has been going on for several years without a sign of change.

There's little doubt that the effort he has put into coaching has had a negative effect on his recent performance. The worrying part of that is how long is this going to last. He would not be the only coach who waited too long and then was unable to turn back the clock.
 

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No one has a 50 inch vertical.

Can McClung hit his nose on the rim? No, he can't. So he doesn't have a 50 inch vertical.

Excellent leaper, for sure, but he's not Superman.

As for the rating, it was based on competition level in HS and the fact that when he played high level AAU ball (Adidas, on a team with Armando Bacot and David McCormack), he didn't really stand out. Good enough to draw the attention of high level D1, not enough of substance for the really big dogs to get involved.

He seems headed for a nice college career, for sure, probably All-Big East for at least a few years. But last year, he was a sub 40% overall, sub 30% from 3 shooter. Going to a slightly less pressure situation was probably the right move for him to maximize his college career. Got him early PT and more room to grow than if he was competing for time on a top 20 team.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/colleg...s-mac-mcclung-registers-48-inch-vertical/amp/
 

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He has a vertical training machine his parents bought for him when he was 13. He trained on it daily and that’s how he has a 48” vertical. He trained for it specifically.
 

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You do realize it's not an either/or choice, right?

The issue is not whether we should offer a three star or a five star. Instead, it's whether we should occasionally offer a three star or NOBODY and simply leave extra scholarships unused, which is what Cal has been choosing to do in recent years (for example, we have three unused scholarships this year).

There have been many many cases of powerhouse programs that have benefited greatly from three star recruits that they took a chance on (some recent examples include Frank Mason becoming National Player of the Year at Kansas, Donte Divincenzo being Final Four MVP at Villanova, Luke Maye being integral to UNC's Championship run, etc.).

But UK is less likely to find those diamonds in the rough because, absent extremely rare exceptions (ie. Hawkins), Cal won't even try. He'd rather leave spots empty than do that.
Problem is those 3 star kids want to play from day 1. They don’t want to wait around a year or two for their shot. It’s not as easy as offer and they will come. They’d rather go where they will get the immediate playing time. Times have changed, this isn’t the 80s and 90s anymore. The days of playing sparingly freshman and sophomore years and contributing junior and senior years are few and far between. These kids want to play, not ride the pine at a major program. That’s what people seem not to understand.
 
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And yet Kentucky won more games than any other D1 school from 2010-2019.

Incredible coincidence.
I don’t understand why people ignore the facts and instead bash cal. I mean our decade was about as good as it gets. And why does anyone doubt cal this year? Guarantee by mid February and March were the most dangerous team in the country
 

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I think I'm calling ******** on this until I see more reliable proof.

I've seen this many times before where it's reported that a player has an otherworldly vertical, yet that guy almost never is able to produce that number under controlled conditions at the NBA combine.

Similar thing with 40 times in football. Players have an odd knack for being slower at the NFL combine than they were reported to be before they got there.
 
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I think I'm calling ******** on this until I see more reliable proof.

I've seen this many times before where it's reported that a player has an otherworldly vertical, yet that guy almost never is able to produce that number under controlled conditions at the NBA combine.

Similar thing with 40 times in football. Players have an odd knack for being slower at the NFL combine than they were reported to be before they got there.
I have seen McClung play many times and I have never seen anyone his size come close to jumping as high as he does.