Yeah, been some weird responses to that one. Pretty apparent that a certain segment's chosen sources of info are really not informing them as to what Mamdani is doing.
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It's just sad that no matter the thread you always have to pick the contrary side. If someone posted that the sun was coming up tomorrow, you would argue about it, something to the effect that just because it has done so for billions of years, that is not proof that it will do so tomorrow. Or you would argue that the sun doesn't actually come up, when everyone who is not a flat earther knows that it doesnt come up, its just an expression.
I really dont think anyone could "fix" the Delta. Hot take: In general, its not a place where many people should live. The "fix" should be incentives for a lot of the populace to move somewhere else, where there's jobs. Those incentives are already there: the area sucks.
"all politics is local" Tip O'Neill .
The Delta is run basically by local politics.....like the rest of the country . I speak from living there 63 years .
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I have begged legislators (state and local) to consider finding alternatives to providing subsidized housing in Delta where there is no hope for employment and the residents are doomed to perpetual poverty . For some reason wink wink Bennie has always pled for the opposite .
Yes. The local politicians bend the knee to him and he protects them. My hometown is one example. Fraud is a widespread, they have a failing water and sewage system, audits show funds have been mismanaged, 2 buildings in the last month have collapsed, one they got a grant for and nobody knows where the money went. Just a few examples. The same people keep getting elected, Bennie’s followers. He keeps making sure they get that grant money.
Thats getting at the root of the problem. Elected politicians dont have much incentive to work towards decreasing the population of their territory. It just reduces funding, plus the voters probably wont respond well to it.
So, in your view, Bennie f'ing Thompson is a masterclass of a mob boss who controls all the local officials that in no way officially report to him in any capacity? He's a criminal genius?
And I thought I had the hot take.
You don't? Do you live in or do business in the delta?
Uh huh. So I can assess the validity of this unsupported claim, what is your view of the potential criminality of....hmm....lets say Donald Trump?
I don't blame everyone else.
I simpy reject the argument that a US House Rep is able to drastically improve or ruin a large area of the state they represent.
They can sometimes help keep something open that would otherwise close, or talk something into going into their district, but the state's Legislature and Executive branches have waaaay more impact on an area of their state succeeding or struggling for generations.
Bro, I disagreed with a scorching hot take within the thread.
Someone claimed something I think is bonkers, so I questioned it.
That is literally how discussion on message boards works. People constantly disagree with other's comments/views on here every day.
But sure, keep being sad because I did what you and others also constantly do.
Makes sense.**
Local politics runs it.
So not a Federal House Rep, but rather a state's governor and a state's Legislature.
...or are you saying those two branches of the state government don't run the Delta(or areas of the rest of the country), and it's the counties and local towns to blame?
In the states I have lived, state governments largely impact whether areas are strong or weak, growing or dying, rebuilding or adrift, etc etc.
It's because local legislators allocate funding to areas of the state that is federal funding and state funding. And state governors push for various initiatives around their state.
OK, what should be down voted in the two posts that Magnolia is sad about?Sad is the only option when there’s no
Is NYC being run into the ground? I questioned if it is and said I don't track suck metrics.
Why would that be down voted?
And why would I be down voted for pointing out that it's shítty for someone being flippant about other going to jail, when they said they were looking at years in jail until a lawyer got em out of trouble?
If those are worth down voting, it seems like down voting is just a way to express you dislike seeing a different perspective or dislike asking for proof of a claim.
I would think down voting would be reserved for when something is actually incorrect, or rude, etc etc.
Oh well.
Well, I thought about listing all the things Trump has done for the country, and then comparing and contrasting all the positive thing(s) that Bennie has done... but then I thought, "you know, I have a job and a real life - do I really need to convince reacharounddawg that his political views have clouded his (I assume) otherwise good judgement and made him clinically insane today?" So I decided to go back to work. YOU'RE WELCOME.
To not live in the Delta you pretty much summed it up very well
The local government has more direct effect on the day to day issues that affect quality of life . Law and order , infrastructure maintenance and upkeep , public utilities ETC . The same thing has happened to many Delta towns that has happened to Jackson . Poor management and leadership has caused many (black and white) who could afford it to leave.
In my opinion, those locations were faced with issues not of their own creation that would have taken world class management to resolve.
In part, its super easy to manage a locality thats growing. Coffers are full, loans are cheap, bills are low. But to manage a locality thats shrinking...yikes. budgets are overrun, but you cant raise taxes. You cant get decent loans because now you're a risk. Infrastructure needs costly repairs that arent in the budget. On and on.
I tend to view it as, the jobs went elsewhere, its gonna suck there for a long while no matter what you do.
Infrastructure maintenance and repair, like roads and bridges, is sometimes paid for by counties and sometimes paid for by the state...at least in the states where I have lived.
And counties often receive state and federal funding to pay for the county funded maintenance and repair.
So state and federal Representatives are allocating funds to one area of a state and/or away from another area of that state.
To be very clear, I am not arguing that the Delta is well run at a local level.
Please do not think that is why I am posting.
I am posting because I think state and federal representatives, as well as state governors, can have a large impact on an area of a state.
And I am posting because I reject the claim that an area of a state is run by a single US House rep or that the success/failure of an area of a state is based on a single US House rep.
it is comical to claim the Delta is the way it is because of a single democratic US representative. The state has been run in the state legislature, federal legislature, and executive by Republicans for years now. All of them have a direct significant impact on success of the Delta.
and I also don’t blame Republicans for not fixing the Delta despite having outsized control on the area. The Delta simply is not something that can be pointed to as evidence of either party's abilities or inabilities.
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You're talking all around the issues here. All these statements you made are true, but you need to back up a little. The question you should be asking is WHY is it shrinking? WHY are jobs going elsewhere? WHO created those 'issues'?
Take Jackson for example. It was at an alltime high population in 1980. Look at the local elected leadership since then, and the demographic trends downward since then. Can you see any correllation? Weak-to-terrible leadership leads to all you listed.
Manufacturing jobs decreased. Good union jobs went away. Alllllll across America. You're pinning this on local leadership?
I just read that the Delta’s population is basically unchanged since 2000
That is going off US Census data.
My state is dominated by Republican control at the county, state and federal level
There are multiple rural areas of my state that are struggling big time because population is dwindling. These are all rural areas that are heavy agricultural areas.
Should I blame the Republican Party for these areas shrinking?
No. I should not just default blame Republicans. I should instead recognize that rural agricultural areas all around the country are generally struggling to retain population, much less grow larger.
You have an "opinion" , I was there and very much involved in my community personally and commercially . A small amount of your statement is true but most of it based on false assumptions and is blatantly wrong .
Your comment is just wrong.
I agree with people all the time on here. I click the little like button when I agree with people. I also do nothing when I agree with people. I just read the comment and agree with it then move onto the next comment. Additionally, I will quote them and say that I agree while adding to their point.
The three things I do when I agree with others are no different than the three things that most everyone else does when they agree with others.
How many of the people who have fled your rural communities fled seeking safety away from their beloved hometown that had become a crime and gang infested hell hole ?
ok dude. you're always right and everyone else on here is always wrong. I get it.
I explained why I think he is using a sad face responding to you. I will go no further into the vortex.
The problem with the delta is crime and corruption and the DA doesn't seem very interested in prosecuting anyone. Gun crime has gotten out of control.
I here this a lot, but convictions and prison populations are at all time highs.
Maybe they're just not incentivized to seek higher penalties on certain crimes?
Maybe they don't have the resources they need?
Or maybe there is a culture in this state and elsewhere that is completely out of control and the “leadership” figures in that culture are wholly focused on enriching themselves and don’t actually care about their suffering brethren.
Again, it's a message board filled with discussion based on a spectrum of opinions.
People are constantly disagreeing with others or partially agreeing nd partially disagreeing.
I hope you are able to accept this reality soon and find success in expressing and supporting your views.