LSU/FSU

[The_Guy_Behind_The_Guy_Behind_The_Guy]

I don't think it's an SEC gap. It's a Nebraska gap. Yes we really are that much slower than teams across the country.

It’s been a long time since we’ve had team speed like that. I recently watched a re-run of 2001 Nebraska vs Oklahoma on B1G Network and we had that kind of speed and athleticism in that game. Crouch obviously and Randy Stella was one of many that played fast on Defense.

 

[TheWayITellEm]

BS.... with the exception of Ohio St these two teams make the BIG look like they play in slow motion.

If the SEC has better athletes, top to bottom...why did they go 3-7 (plus a forfeit) in the regular Bowls?

 

[king_kong_]

If the SEC has better athletes, top to bottom...why did they go 3-7 (plus a forfeit) in the regular Bowls?

we are going on 9 months of you repeating this

'regular bowls' Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

******* man have 1 single shred of dignity

 

[Mr.Scary13]

If the SEC has better athletes, top to bottom...why did they go 3-7 (plus a forfeit) in the regular Bowls?

Why has 40% of the conference won a National Championship in the last 25 years? Chew on those facts....

 

[NECoach31BB]

LSU's special teams was ****. But so was their offense. And he forgets to mention Florida State's 3 fumbles...including their last 2 possessions, and at the LSU 1-yardline. Complete **** all around.

Sounds like F$u was trying to give the game away to the L$u Tigers but couldn’t?

 

[TheWayITellEm]

we are going on 9 months of you repeating this

'regular bowls' Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

******* man have 1 single shred of dignity

And still, you avoid the topic. You avoid any logical analysis...and simply sling mud.

You can't handle the fact that the SEC did ****** overall in the Bowls.

 

[TheWayITellEm]

Why has 40% of the conference won a National Championship in the last 25 years? Chew on those facts....

Obviously the SEC is a good football conference. I'm simply countering the backside smooching and the ridiculous talk that the Big Ten and others all suck.

I mean seriously, guys here say they can watch any SEC game and see a big difference in athletic ability. They're either lying or they're total delusional.

 

[redwine65]

at least the lsu player who fumbled the kick probably felt better

 

[king_kong_]

And still, you avoid the topic. You avoid any logical analysis...and simply sling mud.

You can't handle the fact that the SEC did ****** overall in the Bowls.

The only people who care about the “regular bowls” are loser B1G fans like you.

they’re meaningless and I would guess the SEC teams have many more players sitting them out than B1G teams in the same boat.

unlike the B1G, the SEC sends pros to the NFL up and down the conference. Every team has multiple draft picks every year.

Mich, osu and psu produce pros in the B1G at an SEC-ish rate. The rest of the B1G doesn’t and as a result all the 6th year seniors with 3 degrees block extra hard to ensure that precious 8th win on December 27th with only their parents in the stands to see it. (Despite this, the B1G has a sub-.500 record all-time in bowls).

based on bowl records the last 10 (or 20 or 30, etc.) years, last year was an aberration for the SEC.

again, only you and loser B1G fans bring this up because it’s the last straw you can grasp at after witnessing your “prestigious” athletic conference have its ******* prolapsed in the biggest and most meaningful games of the season (this includes basketball)

 

[Redmich]

The over was 49.5-50.5 points
Had they made the extra point - the over was a guarantee short of a safety

ouch

 

[RiLLLLLLLLey]

I want to root for LSU, but I hate Kelly.

While watching last night, I had to go back and rewatch that video of him being introduced as the new LSU coach, and blabbing with the fake Loosyanna accent. What a goober.

 

[Redscarlet]

If the SEC has better athletes, top to bottom...why did they go 3-7 (plus a forfeit) in the regular Bowls?

One of those losses were at the hands of a member of their own conference..

You do realize the B1G was 2-5 in 1997 in bowl games when Michigan split with Nebraska..

 

[HuskerO58]

And still, you avoid the topic. You avoid any logical analysis...and simply sling mud.

You can't handle the fact that the SEC did ****** overall in the Bowls.

Bowl wins don't mean anything. LSU vs Frost's UCF team... how many LSU starters sat out?

I would imagine players sitting out & not being motivated to play in meaningless bowl game plays a big part in their poor bowl record.

 

[Trumplestiltskin]

Bowl wins don't mean anything. LSU vs Frost's UCF team... how many LSU starters sat out?

I would imagine players sitting out & not being motivated to play in meaningless bowl game plays a big part in their poor bowl record.

LSU played UCF?

 

[Big bo fan]

Bowl wins don't mean anything. LSU vs Frost's UCF team... how many LSU starters sat out?

I would imagine players sitting out & not being motivated to play in meaningless bowl game plays a big part in their poor bowl record.

Frost and UCF didn’t play LSU in the Peach bowl that year they played Auburn!

 

[HuskerO58]

LSU played UCF?

My bad. Auburn. Point still stands.

 

[HuskerO58]

Frost and UCF didn’t play LSU in the Peach bowl that year they played Auburn!

My bad. Auburn. Point still stands.

 

[NECoach31BB]

$EC “it just matters more” when it says so on the scoreboard and on the draft board. It is the deepest conference for talent and getting an overall out of conference schedule that Bill Snyder would approve of.

It has allowed the conference to have tons of facilities and money, before NIL, for players and coaches and grow and gain depth further. As the recruiting bases in the natural footprint are substantial, another advantage is set in stone.

The arrogance of success is also always pretty clear. The fans and fanatics of the $EC and it’s teams will always beat their chests. Yet until a conference can begin to match the depth at the top and middle of the conference, the clanging bells and bellowing whistles will continue.

Football, baseball, what other sports are $EC controlled?

 

[TheWayITellEm]

The only people who care about the “regular bowls” are loser B1G fans like you.

they’re meaningless and I would guess the SEC teams have many more players sitting them out than B1G teams in the same boat.

unlike the B1G, the SEC sends pros to the NFL up and down the conference. Every team has multiple draft picks every year.

Mich, osu and psu produce pros in the B1G at an SEC-ish rate. The rest of the B1G doesn’t and as a result all the 6th year seniors with 3 degrees block extra hard to ensure that precious 8th win on December 27th with only their parents in the stands to see it. (Despite this, the B1G has a sub-.500 record all-time in bowls).

based on bowl records the last 10 (or 20 or 30, etc.) years, last year was an aberration for the SEC.

again, only you and loser B1G fans bring this up because it’s the last straw you can grasp at after witnessing your “prestigious” athletic conference have its ******* prolapsed in the biggest and most meaningful games of the season (this includes basketball)

Bowl games not mattering and # of draft picks are legitimate arguments. I'm reasonable. I don't just sling mud and call anyone who doesn't love the SEC and hate the Big Ten a loser.

The Playoff is a very very small sample size. Usually the same 1 or 2 teams...only 1 game per year vs perhaps not the strongest Big Ten team...

We're talking about top to bottom strength of conference now. I still highly disagree that you guys can see a clear athletic difference when watching SEC games. That's ********.

The SEC had 65 players drafted. The Big Ten had 48. And great athleticism is a few tenths of a second less when running straight the length of the field...or a couple inches more in height when jumping straight up...I highly doubt that you guys can notice that. And often times guys are drafted on combine results...and they end up sucking.

 

[king_kong_]

Bowl games not mattering and # of draft picks are legitimate arguments. I'm reasonable. I don't just sling mud and call anyone who doesn't love the SEC and hate the Big Ten a loser.

The Playoff is a very very small sample size. Usually the same 1 or 2 teams...only 1 game per year vs perhaps not the strongest Big Ten team...

We're talking about top to bottom strength of conference now. I still highly disagree that you guys can see a clear athletic difference when watching SEC games. That's ********.

The SEC had 65 players drafted. The Big Ten had 48. And great athleticism is a few tenths of a second less when running straight the length of the field...or a couple inches more in height when jumping straight up...I highly doubt that you guys can notice that. And often times guys are drafted on combine results...and they end up sucking.

Coaching turnover is also more rampant in the SEC, especially with coordinators

those hires happen before the “regular” (meaningless) bowls

watching the B1G west and watching the SEC (pick a team) is like watching 2 different sports

 

[moralvictories]

we are going on 9 months of you repeating this

'regular bowls' Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

******* man have 1 single shred of dignity

The SEC is such a deep competitive conference, right?

 

[Mr.Scary13]

Bowl games not mattering and # of draft picks are legitimate arguments. I'm reasonable. I don't just sling mud and call anyone who doesn't love the SEC and hate the Big Ten a loser.

The Playoff is a very very small sample size. Usually the same 1 or 2 teams...only 1 game per year vs perhaps not the strongest Big Ten team...

We're talking about top to bottom strength of conference now. I still highly disagree that you guys can see a clear athletic difference when watching SEC games. That's ********.

The SEC had 65 players drafted. The Big Ten had 48. And great athleticism is a few tenths of a second less when running straight the length of the field...or a couple inches more in height when jumping straight up...I highly doubt that you guys can notice that. And often times guys are drafted on combine results...and they end up sucking.

Yes, we're talking top to bottom strength. The SEC has 14 schools with 6 winning a national championship in the last 25 years. Now why don't you tell us how the BIG matches up......

 

[TheWayITellEm]

watching the B1G west and watching the SEC (pick a team) is like watching 2 different sports

Granted, styles of play can be different. For instance, last year my team focused on rushing. The teams with the top % of rushing plays were:

1) Army
2) Air Force
3) Minnesota
4) Navy

But that doesn't mean we'd lose to an SEC team.

 

[TheWayITellEm]

Yes, we're talking top to bottom strength. The SEC has 14 schools with 6 winning a national championship in the last 25 years. Now why don't you tell us how the BIG matches up......

That was before the Playoff. And it will be a much better test when the Playoff is expanded...and the SEC doesn't get 2 of the 4...or 1 of the 2...slots.

Going through a conference schedule undefeated and getting into the Championship Game doesn't necessarily mean that your conference was the best.

 

[bigboxes]

That was before the Playoff. And it will be a much better test when the Playoff is expanded...and the SEC doesn't get 2 of the 4...or 1 of the 2...slots.

Going through a conference schedule undefeated and getting into the Championship Game doesn't necessarily mean that your conference was the best.

Do you ever post your hot takes on your own board?

 

[TheWayITellEm]

Do you even post your hot takes on your own board?

If you SEC fans are so confident, you should want a 32-team playoff. So that 8 SEC teams can advance and 4 can make the semifinals.

 

[moralvictories]

Yes, we're talking top to bottom strength. The SEC has 14 schools with 6 winning a national championship in the last 25 years. Now why don't you tell us how the BIG matches up......

Some of those 6 go back to finishing middle to bottom the very next year. It's not like all 6 are good year after year.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

That was before the Playoff. And it will be a much better test when the Playoff is expanded...and the SEC doesn't get 2 of the 4...or 1 of the 2...slots.

Going through a conference schedule undefeated and getting into the Championship Game doesn't necessarily mean that your conference was the best.

Tell us how the BIG matches up

 

[moralvictories]

Yes, we're talking top to bottom strength. The SEC has 14 schools with 6 winning a national championship in the last 25 years. Now why don't you tell us how the BIG matches up......

3 of those 6 schools that won national championships have been irrelevant for over a decade. LSU faded into irrelevance after winning the national championship in 2019.

 

[king_kong_]

3 of those 6 schools that won national championships have been irrelevant for over a decade. LSU faded into irrelevance after winning the national championship in 2019.

Great stuff!

now do the B1G, which has had just one single program win an outright title in 52 years

tell us how relevant the 13 other teams are. Can’t wait to hear it!

 

[Mr.Scary13]

3 of those 6 schools that won national championships have been irrelevant for over a decade. LSU faded into irrelevance after winning the national championship in 2019.

80% of BIG schools have been irrelevant their entire history. You need to try harder.

 

[TheWayITellEm]

Great stuff!

now do the B1G, which has had just one single program win an outright title in 52 years

tell us how relevant the 13 other teams are. Can’t wait to hear it!

Most of the time, a Big Ten team wasn't voted into the Championship Game. For instance, you and others here would never vote for a Big Ten team.

Let's see what happens in a real playoff.

 

[king_kong_]

Most of the time, a Big Ten team wasn't voted into the Championship Game. For instance, you and others here would never vote for a Big Ten team.

Let's see what happens in a real playoff.

The media has been deep throating the B1G for 100 years

it just gave the league $8B

spare me

 

[king_kong_]

80% of BIG schools have been irrelevant their entire history. You need to try harder.

80%??

the B1G has had one single program win an outright national title in modern football history

it boasts 1 relevant team (ohiost) and 1 team that the media never stops blowing (mich)

thats it

 

[king_kong_]

I hope there’s a 64 team tournament in football so we can all see what would happen

all-SEC Sweet Sixteen!

 

[Mr.Scary13]

Most of the time, a Big Ten team wasn't voted into the Championship Game. For instance, you and others here would never vote for a Big Ten team.

Let's see what happens in a real playoff.

Since you love talking about bowl games, let's look at the flagship program of the BIG (OSU), against the SEC. They are an embarrassing 1-9. The SEC has literally handed them their asses.

 

[king_kong_]

Since you love talking about bowl games, let's look at the flagship program of the BIG (OSU), against the SEC. They are an embarrassing 1-9. The SEC has literally handed them their asses.

It’s not even B1G vs SEC (1st punch knockout, not even a contest)

ohiost is 2-4 against its last 6 top 25 non-conference opponents AT HOME!

there is a reason the B1G constantly insulates itself (no thanks, BCS, football cancelled in 2020, cupcake after cupcake in the non-con) instead of seeking out national competition

there are clearly still plenty of rubes who believe the myth of national competitiveness the B1G has propagated for decades

 

[king_kong_]

Is Kirk cousins the best B1G quarterback of the 2000s?

seriously, people

yet another B1G myth is how good of a defensive league it is. Must just be a coincidence its members can’t produce a better QB in going on 25 years than kirk cousins

 

[TheWayITellEm]

It’s not even B1G vs SEC (1st punch knockout, not even a contest)

ohiost is 2-4 against its last 6 top 25 non-conference opponents AT HOME!

there is a reason the B1G constantly insulates itself (no thanks, BCS, football cancelled in 2020, cupcake after cupcake in the non-con) instead of seeking out national competition

there are clearly still plenty of rubes who believe the myth of national competitiveness the B1G has propagated for decades

Saban has only scheduled 2 road games in his 15 years at Alabama.

But let's focus.

If the SEC is so strong top-to-bottom like you say...then why doesn't Alabama ever have 2 losses?

Remember...focus...the issue is overall strength. Not only the top 2.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

Saban has only scheduled 2 road games in his 15 years at Alabama.

But let's focus.

If the SEC is so strong top-to-bottom like you say...then why doesn't Alabama ever have 2 losses?

Remember...focus...the issue is overall strength. Not only the top 2.

The SEC is 89-62-2 against the BIG and 51-30 in bowl games. Remember....focus....the issue is overall strength. Not just the top 2.