Looking at next seasons roster

[Scangg]

Hard to watch Hyatt play and think shots aren't important to him

 

[gef21]

So just because you're not a US citizen you cant receive NIL $$? Yet if you have a job you pay taxes..There is a lot more I could say on this but better to keep it to myself..

It has something to do with the specific visa he has to be here. I remember reading it but can not remember where I saw it.

 

[MoreCowbellRU]

If Gavin is as good as some expect, he’s likely starting next year with Mag or Hyatt to the bench?
One replaces Caleb.

And then the next year with Ace and Dylan coming in and starting. We are rapidly approaching over recruiting bench players and bringing in immediate starters each year.

My impression of coach Pike is that casting guys out is not his way. (The talk)

Maybe helping place a guy someplace else who wants to play more, yes. Telling a guy he committed to that he's no longer welcome? Not happening.

 

[MoreCowbellRU]

It has something to do with the specific visa he has to be here. I remember reading it but can not remember where I saw it.

Can't work or even get $ for doing nothing on a student visa. Work visas are tough to get and are done by lottery mostly.

Unless you just walk in from Mexico, then most people who thought they understood the process are scratching their heads like the rest of the country.

Maybe that's how we should bring the guys in. Why do it the proper way if you can just cut the line. No shots, free airline tickets, work permit till court date(that never comes). Can't blame people for taking advantage. I would do the same in their position.

 

[njxchange]

You're basing this all on one thing

what one thing? dont know what you talking about Willis...

 

[njxchange]

Gavin might be best shooter in class of 23'. Also, it seems his Basketball IQ is really high which he plays to his advantage. That being said, His athleticism? I think it's above avg Power 5 players but I wouldnt say it's out of the world. I still think he is going to Super Star here, but not one and done.
Usually one done players does have super athleticism, way above most of the players.

Tyler Herro is very athletic, Quick and super fast. Dude is like (white chocolate) Jason Williams fast but can shoot. Thats why he was one and done.

I can see Gavin being Gordon Hayward type for us. at least 2 years. Go 1st round.

 

[Big East Beast]

My impression of coach Pike is that casting guys out is not his way. (The talk)

Maybe helping place a guy someplace else who wants to play more, yes. Telling a guy he committed to that he's no longer welcome? Not happening.

As they say, actions speak louder than words.

I’m not sure what happened with Jaden Jones or Peter Kiss, but when guys go from starting to DNPs but they haven’t been suspended for violation of team rules- that’s pretty much the coaching staff telling the player they are not welcome. The talk is a formality.

You don’t get to where Pike is without having a decent capacity for “my way or the highway”.

 

[MiloTalon13]

Gavin might be best shooter in class of 23'. Also, it seems his Basketball IQ is really high which he plays to his advantage. That being said, His athleticism? I think it's above avg Power 5 players but I wouldnt say it's out of the world. I still think he is going to Super Star here, but not one and done.
Usually one done players does have super athleticism, way above most of the players.

Tyler Herro is very athletic, Quick and super fast. Dude is like (white chocolate) Jason Williams fast but can shoot. Thats why he was one and done.

I can see Gavin being Gordon Hayward type for us. at least 2 years. Go 1st round.

2 things from his HS game at Jersey Mikes on athleticism
1 - there was a play where he caught the ball near the hoop, pump-faked a 6'10" defender and dunked hard with no step - few 6'7" players do that at any level
2 - he got defensive rebounds and pushed them up the court multiple times - never even close to getting back tapped - long-limbed and smooth hides how fast he is - watch for: "we didn't realize how fast he was" or "sneaky fast" among the first comments on him once he gets to RU

 

[RUisB1Gtime]

2 things from his HS game at Jersey Mikes on athleticism
1 - there was a play where he caught the ball near the hoop, pump-faked a 6'10" defender and dunked hard with no step - few 6'7" players do that at any level
2 - he got defensive rebounds and pushed them up the court multiple times - never even close to getting back tapped - long-limbed and smooth hides how fast he is - watch for: "we didn't realize how fast he was" or "sneaky fast" among the first comments on him once he gets to RU

Oh man, I absolutely hate the sneaky athletic or sneaky fast comments by announcers. Its usually about white guys but not always. It's just annoying in general..

 

[MiloTalon13]

Oh man, I absolutely hate the sneaky athletic or sneaky fast comments by announcers. Its usually about white guys but not always. It's just annoying in general..

I bet Griffiths will get that in abundance. There was a highlight, I think on his Instagram? where he drove, got cut off, pivoted, did a step through, and tossed the ball off the backboard to himself for a dunk.
I don't think the comp was great but still, it was "sneaky athletic" for a skinny white guy in goggles.
Actually, it was five-star athletic.

 

[Big East Beast]

For all the money in the MLB you would think they could afford to treat minor leaguers decently. Not picking up the surgery sucks. People don‘t know the dark side. The coach who pushed out my friend’s kid is a legend, field named after him, the whole works.

That story was 30+ years ago.

The numbers have changed to some extent for early draft picks but I think the culture is still like other industries with highly trained specialists - where the people who get to the other side say you need to pay your dues, overcome the odds and they can conveniently forget how lucky they were.

Legendary coaches do f*d up things all the time.

I think kid should be able to stay in school in the case of injury and it doesn’t go against the scholarship count. School/coach might not want to encourage that or do the work to explore it, but this would be something to look into assuming there wasn’t an insurance policy already associated with the ship.

Players/families need to advocate for themselves.

 

[MoreCowbellRU]

As they say, actions speak louder than words.

I’m not sure what happened with Jaden Jones or Peter Kiss, but when guys go from starting to DNPs but they haven’t been suspended for violation of team rules- that’s pretty much the coaching staff telling the player they are not welcome. The talk is a formality.

You don’t get to where Pike is without having a decent capacity for “my way or the highway”.

Who said I was against "my way or the highway"? Pike is the boss. If somebody is not a team player, cry baby etc. Coach is gonna show them the door.
I was talking about a player who has been in the program, produced positive results and done what's asked. Lives up to their commitment. No way Pike pushes them out.
I consider myself a pretty good judge of people and Pike is a good one in my estimation. I just don't see it happening unless it's mutual.

 

[Doctor Worm]

Who said I was against "my way or the highway"? Pike is the boss. If somebody is not a team player, cry baby etc. Coach is gonna show them the door.
I was talking about a player who has been in the program, produced positive results and done what's asked. Lives up to their commitment. No way Pike pushes them out.
I consider myself a pretty good judge of people and Pike is a good one in my estimation. I just don't see it happening unless it's mutual.

As it stands now we have 14 players on ship next year. One has to go. What if no one raises their hand?

 

[MiloTalon13]

As it stands now we have 14 players on ship next year. One has to go. What if no one raises their hand?

Safe to say, the coaches know something we don't
There's a bunch of possibilities - they know at least one of them is a sure thing, prob more than one