Lively Decision next week!

PbAbdo

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So Coach K and Calipari have similar success rates with elite recruits?

We've had this discussion before, and you didn't do well in that one either, but I do like it when you write about fallacies after midnight.
Still afraid or can't answer I see... Couldn't point out those moved goalposts you were claiming either... You sure make a lot of claims to never prove any of them.

Yea, Pretty much. So far they each have 1 championship with them. 🤣 Cal has 1 championship banner dude; he's had classes that outranked Duke a lot more times. Something tells me the recruiting ranking doesn't really matter that much in the grand scheme. But you keep living in that false reality if it helps you cope.

How did I not do well in that one? Please evidence this for us. 😉
 
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villefan76

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If we miss on Lively I wonder if we try to jump in on Yohan Traore. A top 10 guy who blew up this summer and has taken no visits.

I don’t know much about the guy so I’m not sure why his recruitment has been so quiet.
He just took a visit to Texas Tech.
 

kyjeff1

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I mean, if you're Lively, how the hell do you pick Duke over UK when you know your coach would be a first year guy? Seriously, Jon Sheyer would be his coach, it just doesn't make sense.
But whatever.
 

GonzoCat90

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either we’re on fire right now and Lively sees no reason to wait until spring and risk losing his spot.

or he wants to be at Duke and doesn’t want Bona to commit first to Kentucky and make it look like his decision was made for him.

Our staff was in for Bona just the other day. If he told them he’s coming, Duke/Lively probably want to get out in front of it. The flip side of that is that our staff knew Lively was going to Duke and gave Bona the green light on the visit.
 
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SmedMoley

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I think if we were battling any other team than Duke, for Lively, we'd all be more confident. They've just burned us on so many recruits that we have PTSD. This recruitment has all the earmarks of an old-school Antigua effort. Zero leaks, all quiet. Smoke screen at the end. The pick could be Duke, I have no idea, but this feels like the staff has this one in hand.
 

UK-Chulo

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I think if we were battling any other team than Duke, for Lively, we'd all be more confident. They've just burned us on so many recruits that we have PTSD. This recruitment has all the earmarks of an old-school Antigua effort. Zero leaks, all quiet. Smoke screen at the end. The pick could be Duke, I have no idea, but this feels like the staff has this one in hand.
Or what we've experienced with kids who ended up picking Duke. Quiet. Smoke screen at the end. Goes to Duke.
 
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bigblue1971

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Branham is pretty solid and all the latest updates are leaning Duke. Supposedly some of Duke’s current commits have been told he’s coming to Duke. Bona will be a nice consolation prize and while not as talented of a NBA prospect he has a better motor and will probably put up similar stats in college
I can't see the coaching staff telling the new commits that in case of some of them leaking it through social media and ruining his moment but maybe.
 

westerncat

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I'm not convinced Lively sees himself playing as a 5. Maybe I'm wrong.
I has thought that someone said Lively saw himself as a 4 and did not want to play the 5 position. Is it possible that Bona would play the 5 and Lively the 4 at UK ?
 

Fadhi

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I'm not convinced Lively sees himself playing as a 5. Maybe I'm wrong.
He should tho if Cal is really planning a 4 out 1 in type of offense. You know we would be running the floor fast break style every possession. Lively would either be catching lobs on the break or being the trailer who shoots the occasional 3 at the top of the key. Would fit his style of play perfectly imo
 

bigblue1971

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He likes UK, his mom likes UK and Cal, he's supposed to be friends with Clark and Sharpe. There has to be a bigger money draw to Duke somehow (Nike) or something else going on to lose him.
 
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UK-Chulo

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He should tho if Cal is really planning a 4 out 1 in type of offense. You know we would be running the floor fast break style every possession. Lively would either be catching lobs on the break or being the trailer who shoots the occasional 3 at the top of the key. Would fit his style of play perfectly imo
I'd love to see this, but it is a tough sell coming from Cal since he has never let his teams play that way. If you were a recruit would you believe Cal if he said we're going to be an up and down team?
 

JAC71

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I'd love to see this, but it is a tough sell coming from Cal since he has never let his teams play that way. If you were a recruit would you believe Cal if he said we're going to be an up and down team?
He really has no choice since the team has only Oscar and Collins to back him up. Calipari’s teams use to put up plenty of points up until the last couple years. With him recruiting all of the guards/wings he will have to change the offense or gave Toppin at center
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Still afraid or can't answer I see... Couldn't point out those moved goalposts you were claiming either... You sure make a lot of claims to never prove any of them.

Yea, Pretty much. So far they each have 1 championship with them. 🤣 Cal has 1 championship banner dude; he's had classes that outranked Duke a lot more times. Something tells me the recruiting ranking doesn't really matter that much in the grand scheme. But you keep living in that false reality if it helps you cope.

How did I not do well in that one? Please evidence this for us. 😉
You wrote this at 4:33 in the morning, on a Saturday morning? Wow.

Then again, you're the same guy who posted gay porn on here, right?

So trying to have a reasonable discussion with you - about anything - would be like trying to have a discussion with Boggs at Shawshank Prison about the value of chastity.
 

PbAbdo

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You wrote this at 4:33 in the morning, on a Saturday morning? Wow.

Then again, you're the same guy who posted gay porn on here, right?

So trying to have a reasonable discussion with you - about anything - would be like trying to have a discussion with Boggs at Shawshank Prison about the value of chastity.
When you have a sick child, you're often up all hours of the day and night. And what is the difference in being here at 2am like yourself, or 4:30 am like myself? But keep using those fallacies to avoid answering.

Nope. I joked about it being me and the mentally deficient like yourself bought into it. Keep using those fallacies though.

Again, more fallacies to avoid providing anything that could otherwise support your argument.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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When you have a sick child, you're often up all hours of the day and night. And what is the difference in being here at 2am like yourself, or 4:30 am like myself? But keep using those fallacies to avoid answering.

Nope. I joked about it being me and the mentally deficient like yourself bought into it. Keep using those fallacies though.

Again, more fallacies to avoid providing anything that could otherwise support your argument.
Incorrect. We've had this discussion before when you were using any one of your 15 other accounts. You were a troll to every point then, and you'd likely do the same now.

Let me know when you want to actually have real discussions. Until now, you haven't shown much interest in anything other than arguing for arguing sake.
 

Cowtown Cat

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Yeah, @Cowtown Cat , give us a few scraps from the aristocratic table.
Most of the stuff he’s heard is from the duke side. They claim they (duke) have no idea where he’s going, but they feel like they have a good shot at him. Just saying it’s been a very quiet recruitment and there’s really no leaks right now. I think this is actually good news for UK.

Sorry, I just woke up. The wife had me up late last night. Which isn’t anything out of the ordinary, I work midnights. Gotta work on the car today. 🥴
 

MdWIldcat55

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I’ve never seen Lively as part of this Kentucky class. If he is I’ll be pleasantly surprised.

But I’ve always felt the vision was Sharpe, Wallace, Livingston along with Clarke or another PG as “Four out” controlling the ball and setting the offensive agenda, with a guy like Bona as the “one in.”

I’ll be more concerned if Wallace and Bona go elsewhere. With Lively it feels like playing with house money.

BTW - I’ll say this preemptively. Anyone who starts whining and crying if Lively does go elsewhere after Cal signed the consensus #1 in the class and another potential Top Five is a fake troll or a moron.
 
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When you have a sick child, you're often up all hours of the day and night. And what is the difference in being here at 2am like yourself, or 4:30 am like myself? But keep using those fallacies to avoid answering.

Nope. I joked about it being me and the mentally deficient like yourself bought into it. Keep using those fallacies though.

Again, more fallacies to avoid providing anything that could otherwise support your argument.

 
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Cowtown Cat

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I wouldn't be heartbroken if we get Bona over Lively because I don't see as much difference as some do.But I just would hate seeing those scumbag Dukies beat us out on a recruit again.
I feel the same. Lively can step out and hit the 3, whereas I’m not sure that’s Bona’s game. Bona, however, seems to play with a higher motor. To me, you can’t go wrong either way. Hell, I would love to get them both!
 

PbAbdo

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Incorrect. We've had this discussion before when you were using any one of your 15 other accounts. You were a troll to every point then, and you'd likely do the same now.

Let me know when you want to actually have real discussions. Until now, you haven't shown much interest in anything other than arguing for arguing sake.
That is what anyone who is afraid to actually present their facts would say.

I haven't trolled you or done anything other than present facts. You dissolve into utilizing fallacies because you have no substance or capacity to counter.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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That is what anyone who is afraid to actually present their facts would say.

I haven't trolled you or done anything other than present facts. You dissolve into utilizing fallacies because you have no substance or capacity to counter.
It's truly weirdo-level stuff that the guy who posted scores of gay porn on this site is still trying to be taken seriously in thread discussions.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Lively choosing "set for life" over "la familia?"

I didn't know he was the letterman's jacket type of elite. Oh well.
 

bucsrule8872

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I cannot wait until K is finally out of the picture for good. I think he will be behind the scenes for a few years, though, which means Scheyer will still be able to recruit.

I think Scheyer will be somewhat successful initially because of recruiting and the system, but I think eventually he will falter. It is extremely difficult to follow a legend.
 

PbAbdo

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It's truly weirdo-level stuff that the guy who posted scores of gay porn on this site is still trying to be taken seriously in thread discussions.
Where is he?

I couldn't imagine being so afraid of presenting your counter-debate that you can only come up with fallacy arguments to avoid actual discussion.