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JumpinJackFlash

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You must have forgot the I've-lost-my-mind emoji at the end or your post.
How’s that?? Street signs in Israel are in two languages Arabic and Hebrew. A government doesn’t represent a religion
It’s like saying you’re anti trump you are anti Christianity. Netanyahu is not the pope of Judaism. no one is we aren’t defined by one person or government
 

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the country isn't completely divided. turn off the tv and take a look outside. probably not too many (dare I say zero?) elephant vs donkey fistfights breaking out in the street.
He's either been good for or completely destroyed it depending on how you look at it. IMO all credibility is gone from major networks.
Thats a very valid point. I hate hate how the term "fake news" is thrown out when the news isnt what you want to hear.
 

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How’s that?? Street signs in Israel are in two languages Arabic and Hebrew. A government doesn’t represent a religion
Israel is certainly an interesting place. I went from Jerusalem to Palestine (Bethlehem) in 2019 and it was like going from a US border town to a Mexican border town. We even had to change guides because our Jewish guide could not enter Palestine. Walking around old town Jerusalem you can walk from Christian to Jewish to Muslim areas in 5 minutes. The smells and sound change are pretty cool to experience
 
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Right... while there are plots to kidnap local officials. Protests for both sides that have turned into violence.
I was, of course, joking about the representation of the public on message boards and at protests, both of which are experiencing violence and vitriol for the very first time ever (also, obviously, a joke.)

welcome to earth, man.
 

JumpinJackFlash

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Israel is certainly an interesting place. I went from Jerusalem to Palestine (Bethlehem) in 2019 and it was like going from a US border town to a Mexican border town. We even had to change guides because our Jewish guide could not enter Palestine. Walking around old town Jerusalem you can walk from Christian to Jewish to Muslim areas in 5 minutes. The smells and sound change are pretty cool to experience
I love Israel and everything it can stand for including being the religious epicenter for most of the world
 

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I was, of course, joking about the representation of the public on message boards and at protests, both of which are experiencing violence and vitriol for the very first time ever (also, obviously, a joke.)

welcome to earth, man.
Thanks I appreciate the welcome I’m just here to observe
 
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That last part, about little gov't intervention, is totally fine. We can agree to disagree, and there are some areas where I agree. But I am in constant contact with friends, family, and casual acquaintances who regurgitate Trump fed garbage. These aren't isolated cases. It's when I go to a party, people from random backgrounds, several law enforcement agents included, and at some point in the night I hear how the election is being stolen. I don't think they're evil, they're good people, but they are being influenced by the POTUS, who is massively full of s***!!
fair enough. sounds like all of those people, like any who take what a politician says at face value, are very stupid.
 

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How’s that?? Street signs in Israel are in two languages Arabic and Hebrew. A government doesn’t represent a religion
It’s like saying you’re anti trump you are anti Christianity. Netanyahu is not the pope of Judaism. no one is we aren’t defined by one person or government

I'm still waiting on the "how's that" I asked of you. No, when we are talking about "Israel" and our government and how it acts or doesn't act, and when those such as Ilhan Omar make cracks about "Israel," there is no doubt to anyone with any sentience that it = Jewish. Maybe your denial is how you make it through the day. I must say, your attempt to rationalize this is eye-opening and helps me understand how you and yours operate.

 

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I'm still waiting on the "how's that" I asked of you. No, when we are talking about "Israel" and our government and how it acts or doesn't act, and when those such as Ilhan Omar make cracks about "Israel," there is no doubt to anyone with any sentience that it = Jewish. Maybe your denial is how you make it through the day. I must say, your attempt to rationalize this is eye-opening and helps me understand how you and yours operate.


No my argument was about Donald trump and had nothing to do with Israel. You brought up Israel and Obama. Like I said I’m not even going to deal with you because instead of actually talking about what everyone else is talking about you do the old bring up something irrelevant to the conversation to distract from the original message. You could be a politician! Either side would be impressed with your ability to sidestep a discussion and try to put attention to something completely unrelated. I applaud you for your skill and think you will do wonderful
 

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No my argument was about Donald trump and had nothing to do with Israel. You brought up Israel and Obama. Like I said I’m not even going to deal with you because instead of actually talking about what everyone else is talking about you do the old bring up something irrelevant to the conversation to distract from the original message. You could be a politician! Either side would be impressed with your ability to sidestep a discussion and try to put attention to something completely unrelated. I applaud you for your skill and think you will do wonderful
That's cute, your terrible reasoning and ridiculous position gets shut down and, well, you shut down. You were the first to mention Jews, as in comparing Trump to Hitler. Maybe go back and read your post. Also, you ever bothered answering my direct question as to how democracy was still alive after O'bama, but is now gone, I wouldn't have to keep pointing our your silliness on other issues.

 

JumpinJackFlash

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That's cute, your terrible reasoning and ridiculous position gets shut down and, well, you shut down. You were the first to mention Jews, as in comparing Trump to Hitler. Maybe go back and read your post. Also, you ever bothered answering my direct question as to how democracy was still alive after O'bama, but is now gone, I wouldn't have to keep pointing our your silliness on other issues.


Oh perfect an on topic post. Democracy is under attack through unsubstantiated claims of widespread fraud with no evidence all of trumps lawsuits are or have been lost. He and his team have stated to the world their only goal is to get said lawsuits to the Supreme Court. Please take a moment to think why.... oh good you’re back, I know you don’t have a lot of brain cells so I knew it wouldn’t take very long. Maybe I should clarify I guess you took me literally. When I stated situations were similar i didn’t mean trump is targeting Jews. I mean his fear mongering, whether it’s with the ppl who observe Islam, immigrants from Mexico, the black community who the “suburbs” need to be saved from, it’s the same tact that hitler used, fear of mainstream media, it’s the same tact. The act of appeasing him or indulging in his fanatical claims is an extremely slippery slope
 

JumpinJackFlash

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That's cute, your terrible reasoning and ridiculous position gets shut down and, well, you shut down. You were the first to mention Jews, as in comparing Trump to Hitler. Maybe go back and read your post. Also, you ever bothered answering my direct question as to how democracy was still alive after O'bama, but is now gone, I wouldn't have to keep pointing our your silliness on other issues.


Now now Lincoln100 liking a post but not coming back at me and yet I “shut down?” That’s cute? Isn’t that what you said? Everything I stated for you I had already said so either you jumped in without actually reading the discussion or you’re reading comprehension isn’t one of those amazing skills we were talking about. I can see why you liked that comment. It continues with your political aspersions. Taking a point and stretching it to the absolute farthest place possible so now if someone chooses not to read said conversation Or their reading level is where yours falls, one would assume I said republicans are nazis which isn’t what I said in the slightest
 

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Oh perfect an on topic post. Democracy is under attack through unsubstantiated claims of widespread fraud with no evidence all of trumps lawsuits are or have been lost. He and his team have stated to the world their only goal is to get said lawsuits to the Supreme Court. Please take a moment to think why.... oh good you’re back, I know you don’t have a lot of brain cells so I knew it wouldn’t take very long. Maybe I should clarify I guess you took me literally. When I stated situations were similar i didn’t mean trump is targeting Jews. I mean his fear mongering, whether it’s with the ppl who observe Islam, immigrants from Mexico, the black community who the “suburbs” need to be saved from, it’s the same tact that hitler used, fear of mainstream media, it’s the same tact. The act of appeasing him or indulging in his fanatical claims is an extremely slippery slope

Good, you got your shine box. Democracy is under attack because the President is exercising his rights, transparently, in this democracy, to challenge the results? Got it. How diabolical.

You familiar with First Amendment? It talks about freedom of speech and of the press (not to mention to right to petition the government, which Trump is doing). You say democracy wasn't under attack when O'bama was president, but he was having his own DOJ spy on and wiretap reporters. Freedom of the press and free speech seems to be directly under attack by O'bama admin., buuuuut I think I'm gonna focus on a constitutionally protected action by Trump as being the cause.

Shine-box boy.
 

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Now now Lincoln100 liking a post but not coming back at me and yet I “shut down?” That’s cute? Isn’t that what you said? Everything I stated for you I had already said so either you jumped in without actually reading the discussion or you’re reading comprehension isn’t one of those amazing skills we were talking about. I can see why you liked that comment. It continues with your political aspersions. Taking a point and stretching it to the absolute farthest place possible so now if someone chooses not to read said conversation Or their reading level is where yours falls, one would assume I said republicans are nazis which isn’t what I said in the slightest

 

JumpinJackFlash

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Good, you got your shine box. Democracy is under attack because the President is exercising his rights, transparently, in this democracy, to challenge the results? Got it. How diabolical.

You familiar with First Amendment? It talks about freedom of speech and of the press (not to mention to right to petition the government, which Trump is doing). You say democracy wasn't under attack when O'bama was president, but he was having his own DOJ spy on and wiretap reporters. Freedom of the press and free speech seems to be directly under attack by O'bama admin., buuuuut I think I'm gonna focus on a constitutionally protected action by Trump as being the cause.

Shine-box boy.
yea by all means use your rights! He’s losing every ****ing court case?!?! Must mean the judicial system as well as the election officials are against him. I don’t have a problem with him going to the courts like you said it is his right. when he has zero evidence to back up anything that’s being proposed in court But still go out and talk about all this fraud that isn’t there. Well then the discussion turns from exercising his rights to undermining an election result. He wants it to go to the Supreme Court because there’s only one court that matters in America at the moment the court of public opinion. One that he is a master manipulator of. You talk about freedom of press like you genuinely care but I’m curious if you were upset when media members were getting arrested and or shot with non lethal projectiles for just filming and covering protests. The Obama administration is over they walked away after their time in office even though they didn’t like who was replacing him. That’s called American democracy. When you don’t have the electoral college, when you don’t have any evidence to put forth in court, when you fire everyone who sides with our governmental system of democracy over you, when you try and bomb Syria for reasons unexplained, when you tell the entire world your plan for our troops in the Middle East, and I could go on but the point is that makes you a national security threat. It means you are placing yourself over your country and if you happen to also be the president then in my eyes that makes you a traitor to the United States of America

Shinebox boy????? What an old *** term, as if to say I’m nothing but a shoe shiner?? Are you 70? 🤦🏻‍♂️
 

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yea by all means use your rights! He’s losing every ****ing court case?!?! Must mean the judicial system as well as the election officials are against him. I don’t have a problem with him going to the courts like you said it is his right. when he has zero evidence to back up anything that’s being proposed in court But still go out and talk about all this fraud that isn’t there. Well then the discussion turns from exercising his rights to undermining an election result. He wants it to go to the Supreme Court because there’s only one court that matters in America at the moment the court of public opinion. One that he is a master manipulator of. You talk about freedom of press like you genuinely care but I’m curious if you were upset when media members were getting arrested and or shot with non lethal projectiles for just filming and covering protests. The Obama administration is over they walked away after their time in office even though they didn’t like who was replacing him. That’s called American democracy. When you don’t have the electoral college, when you don’t have any evidence to put forth in court, when you fire everyone who sides with our governmental system of democracy over you, when you try and bomb Syria for reasons unexplained, when you tell the entire world your plan for our troops in the Middle East, and I could go on but the point is that makes you a national security threat. It means you are placing yourself over your country and if you happen to also be the president then in my eyes that makes you a traitor to the United States of America

Shinebox boy????? What an old *** term, as if to say I’m nothing but a shoe shiner?? Are you 70? 🤦🏻‍♂️

Wrong, you said democracy was under attack due to unsubstantiated claims of fraud, so you do have a problem with him going to the courts. You comain about him wanting it to go to the supreme court, which doesnt make sense since it is a court of law. I dont know what the rest of the stuff you are rambling about has to do with our discussion.
 

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**** sorry I forgot you don’t read very well. Let me know if something doesn’t make sense or if you get stuck on a word, I used a couple bigger ones. Remember as you’re reading we are talking about the threat that’s happening now not about Obama 👍🏻
C'mon shine boy, you used Obama as an example of democracy, and I pointed out the problem with your reliance on Obama as a good example.
 

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Wrong, you said democracy was under attack due to unsubstantiated claims of fraud, so you do have a problem with him going to the courts. You comain about him wanting it to go to the supreme court, which doesnt make sense since it is a court of law. I dont know what the rest of the stuff you are rambling about has to do with our discussion.
He wants it to go to the Supreme Court where he thinks he’s stacked the deck in his favor with a 6-3 conservative Supreme Court. If you have evidence go to court if you don’t have evidence you’re wasting everyone’s time. I don’t know how you can’t tell the difference. The reason why you are so confused is because the rambling was what I was originally talking about which you didn’t care about you saw the word Jew in my post got triggered didn’t read any of the things I actually said and went on a side rant about Jews Israel and Obama. You brought up Obama sir. I have nothing to say about him because he is irrelevant to the discussion at hand I then gave an example of how Obama handles transition of power compared to trump that is literally the only reason I even typed his name. Now kindly reread our entire discussion or just shut up. I’m not interested in what Obama did 4 years ago at this moment. Again for the 100th time I would like to talk about how trump is circumventing the process without evidence hoping the Supreme Court will back him up, or the fact that he is going into meetings with heads of states trying to pressure them into just giving the votes to himself. But you don’t want to actually talk about that. It’s misdirection to change the discussion. It’s sensationalizing things that I say to make my points seem crazy. It’s ridiculous and high school debate team crap. But you learn from the best
 

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C'mon shine boy, you used Obama as an example of democracy, and I pointed out the problem with your reliance on Obama as a good example.
And the reason you aren’t talking about the subject at hand is because there isn’t an argument for the other side. You don’t have any evidence, trumps team doesn’t have any, media outlets don’t have any, courts don’t have any, investigators don’t have any, there is none and so there’s nothing for you to say so you change the subject
 
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Got news for you..... Trump won the popular vote and it wasn't even close.
 

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He wants it to go to the Supreme Court where he thinks he’s stacked the deck in his favor with a 6-3 conservative Supreme Court. If you have evidence go to court if you don’t have evidence you’re wasting everyone’s time. I don’t know how you can’t tell the difference. The reason why you are so confused is because the rambling was what I was originally talking about which you didn’t care about you saw the word Jew in my post got triggered didn’t read any of the things I actually said and went on a side rant about Jews Israel and Obama. You brought up Obama sir. I have nothing to say about him because he is irrelevant to the discussion at hand I then gave an example of how Obama handles transition of power compared to trump that is literally the only reason I even typed his name. Now kindly reread our entire discussion or just shut up. I’m not interested in what Obama did 4 years ago at this moment. Again for the 100th time I would like to talk about how trump is circumventing the process without evidence hoping the Supreme Court will back him up, or the fact that he is going into meetings with heads of states trying to pressure them into just giving the votes to himself. But you don’t want to actually talk about that. It’s misdirection to change the discussion. It’s sensationalizing things that I say to make my points seem crazy. It’s ridiculous and high school debate team crap. But you learn from the best

You think it is a real thing that the Supreme Court is going to not apply the law and do whatever they want because they have an agenda? I don't have to sensationalise anything, you do "crazy" very well, all by yourself. And it's worth noting that what you suggest is how liberal judges rule, not the way conservative judges rule.

Do you know that someone, even without evidence or a good legal argument, is allowed by law to file a lawsuit. If that person doesn't have a sound case, it will go away eventually. You keep throwing a fit about how he has no evidence, but that doesn't mean he can't pursue a legal remedy. I don't think you understand what "circumvent" means.

You claimed prior to Trump that our system of democracy was peachy-keen, and that Trump is destroying it. O'bama was the president immediately before Trump. I was simply pointing out the egrigious acts of the president at that time, which was a direct assault on democracy, and which you were comparing to Trumps legal and transparent actions in this democracy.

It is also worth noting that commas and periods are a good thing.

If you want to go find your safe space now because you're scared the Supreme Court is going to crown Trump, please do. Wimp.
 
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fair enough. sounds like all of those people, like any who take what a politician says at face value, are very stupid.
I've always said, I don't pay too much attention to debates or what they say in public. I watch what they do in office.
 

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Sydney Powell. You'll be very tired of her name by the time this is all said and done
This ended up being true just not in the way you thought. Turns out what's left of the Trump Team is also very tired of Sidney
 

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Sydney Powell. You'll be very tired of her name by the time this is all said and done
This crackpot just got dumped -- she is too batshit crazy for loony Rudy. Now that's saying something.

Don't worry though Rudy's got this in the bag......as soon as he deposes Maduro, exhumes Hugo Chavez, and locates that food truck that delivered 100,000 Biden ballots. You can't make this **** up!

Trump Dumps Sydney Powell, Lawyer Who Promised to 'Blow Up' Georgia, As Legal Strategy Unravels (msn.com)

BTW - I'm not tired of Sydney Powell yet. Let's hear some more. God I hope there is more.
 
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