So your line of thinking is lack of proof is proof there is no proof.
Do you ever get tired of running yourself in circles?
There's no proof someone hasn't sailed off the edge of the earth. Maybe the earth is flat!
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So your line of thinking is lack of proof is proof there is no proof.
Do you ever get tired of running yourself in circles?
There's no proof someone hasn't sailed off the edge of the earth. Maybe the earth is flat!
So, what you're saying is that since I don't have proof that no one born in 1900 voted for Biden, it must mean that someone did?
Let's keep this simple.
Provide the basis for your belief that someone born in 1900 cast a vote for Biden, and we'll go from there. You're making the accusation. Therefore, it is on you to back it up, not for me to disprove (even though I already did--you just refuse to read it).
Is that mental defective still claiming there is no proof of fraud? Just another admission he won't read anything that takes himself outside of his bizarro echo-chamber. Hell at least @leodisflowers admitted small time fraud probably exists. Of course the problem I have with flowers is he thinks you just have to live with a certain amount of voter fraud, when I'm sure he doesn't feel that way about fraud when it's his insurance company trying to screw over his family.
I guarantee fraud has been happening at a low level for many years, but until I see some sort of concrete proof of large scale voter fraud that is going to swing the election by 10,000+ votes in individual states I am going to learn to live with it because the outcome isn't going to change. I'll be right with you once you provide me some actual proof things have gone on, but at this point there isn't anything large scale that is going to shift the election. Until told different Biden is the new president and I will hope he tries to continue to keep us the greatest place to live in the world. Like I've said multiple times, the USA is the best and it isn't close. Travel outside the US and you'll know what I mean.
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I'm sure if you went through each state, you'd probably find a handful miscounted ballots, fraudulent ballots, etc. Like Leodis said, show us some proof that it exists on the scale you claim, then we can talk. Hell, I'm still waiting for that proof of the person born in 1900 having voted for Biden--and at least I posted something that debunks it. Neither you nor GBR has provided ANY tangible evidence that 1) that person voted, and 2) he/she voted for Biden.
And at least understand the concept of proving something; GBR seems to think that because I don't have proof that someone that is supposedly 123 years old didn't vote for Biden, it must have happened because he says so---and you call me mentally deficient....
I'm still waiting for Dingle to tell us what US Senator told his friend about all of the voter fraud---and crickets.
Most of Trump's lawsuits aren't even claiming outright fraud, and a few of his attorneys have even had to admit it to a judge (see the case in Montgomery County PA, where the Trump campaign is trying to have 598 ballots tossed out--not because they're frauds, but on a technicality involving the envelopes in which they were returned; Biden is ahead in that county by 132,000 votes).
So, we need to watch a video with a pronounced right-wing bias, mixed levels of factual reporting, and from Canada to boot.
I'm sure Leodis and Schuele would rather spend their time shaving their heads with cheese graters than watch your ******** drivel.
I'm not going to watch any videos from any news outlet right or left. I want to see cold hard proof that is going to swing the election come out and that has still yet to happen. Lot's of big talk coming out, but so far no action. Sidney Powell needs to **** or get off the pot. Don't make big *** claims and sit on it. Come out with it if you have it or STFU and move on. I'm still waiting, and so far it is a lot of talk and no action.
Do you get the idea the Joel has no life---except in watching hack wingnut videos?
He seems to think that copying and pasting all the crap that he absorbs on Twitter 24/7 is some kind of impressive skill.
And as I've said before, I would find him every bit as annoying if he was a mouth-breathing goober from the Loony Left who insisted on larding up this board with his nonsense.
It's flat out embarrassing. Trump and Rudy should be thrown in jail at this point. Must be nice to throw out wild accusations in public, not back them up in court, want to charge $20,000 for doing nothing but running your mouth, and then rip off Americans sending you money. Fear mongering from far right continues.
Wild accusations not being backed up, ripping people off, and fear mongering ... kinda sums up big governmemt
Everyone who loves truth and justice, keep your eyes on the prize, which is the discovery that Dominion has built-in algorithms which allow for the changing of votes. I honestly don't think the left even cares though, as long as they take power. They could give two rips about biden's corruption in the Ukraine and with Chinese officials. That made Watergate look like a kindergarten costume party
Trump is not up to speed on the secretly embedded presidential vote changing algorithm because he is busy busting the international child sex trafficking ring clandestinely operated by celebrity pedophiles loyal to the Clintons.
Only one sentence and you are 0 for 2.
It's not a campaign, it's the Trump presidency and this is the sole focus of the president's lawyers. Entrusting the Venezuelans to run our election, what could possibly go wrong?
Nothing. No evidence that anything went wrong.
Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) on Tuesday said that an audit of the state's voting machines has been completed and has found no signs of foul play.
Chris Krebs (see tweet below) was the Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) at the Department of Homeland Security under Trump.
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Is it better if it's just incompetence rather than fraud?
Weird how these instances of 9,000+ votes being incompetently miscounted only seem to go one way.
The Venezuelans ran our elections---all 51 of them? Do Trump's lawyers know about it?
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Yes. Trump can't handle the truth.
The Trump campaign is 1-24 in court decisions so far; 24 of 25 legal challenges filed by Trump attorneys to date have been rejected or dismissed. However, they did win one concession: observers were allowed to move a few feet closer to election workers.
For clarity, this was during the hand recount and was corrected. If not corrected, it would have widened Biden’s margin in the recount by 9k, so hopes that this proves/proved that there was original voting fraud aren’t founded.
Any objective person would look at this and assume there just isn't much to these wild claims of rampant fraud. You might also notice the conspicuous absence of most of the stanchest conservatives in this thread. There are still a few who won't back down an inch, serving up partisan commentary as evidence, which I find baffling. Conservatives here rail about our societal ills ad nauseam, blaming them all on the left, and yet they take absolutely zero ownership of the damage their boy, Donald J. Trump, has caused. They praise our country, just not the left, which happens to be the majority. They talk about respect, demanding but giving none. They rail against entitlement, never mind they voted, and support still, a man of extraordinary entitlement. And they say our government and country is great, apparently something Trump single handedly accomplished in 4 years. But now that he lost reelection by a mile they say our country is going into the toilet, the voting system is rigged and a fraud, and a general malaise has swept over the land.
Sydney Powell. You'll be very tired of her name by the time this is all said and doneBy "president's lawyers", you mean this guy?
It's pretty hard to investigate voter fraud in Pennsylvania when the entire system is controlled by Democrats and they destroyed and discarded the envelopes that ballots were mailed in. By the statistics I've seen, there is no doubt that thousands of ballots were illegally cast in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh as well as in Detroit Michigan. There's nothing anybody can do about that when you have an uncooperative state governor and attorney general.
At some point what Pennsylvania did will come home to roost. My hope would be that maybe our House and Senate would realize that for the good of the country there needs to be some national election standards set to maybe prevent a complete destruction of confidence in our elections. As long as ballot harvesting and allowing dead people and illegal aliens to vote favors Democrats though I'm not optimistic. Don't blame Trump for this. If anything he's brought the problem to the light of day.
POY. The end justifies the means. We are so F'd as a country if we don't address the cluster that is our national election process. We HAVE to get this back to a one day election and have national minimum standards for states to follow. Anybody who watched the video footage of the counting process in Philadelphia, should have ZERO faith in the integrity of our elections.
Why? Because CNN and MSNBC tells them so? The question isn't whether there was widespread fraud in Democrat controlled cities. There was from harvested ballots to ineligible voters. The question is whether or not Trump or anybody else can do anything about it and the answer to that is no. A high ranking U.S. Senator has told a close friend of mine exactly that. We'll find out in about March that in fact there were thousands of fraudulently cast ballots counted. I don't know if it would have been enough for Trump but it sure makes people very skeptical about our election process.
We’ve had absentee voting since the Civil War, so “getting back” is a hell of a long way back.
It's been a couple of days since you told us all how John James couldn't have possibly been beaten so badly in Wayne County, Michigan (even though he lost by an even larger margin there two years ago, when there was no presidential election). Why don't you trot out that golden nugget of information, yet again? Maybe the fourth or fifth time will be the charm.
Who was the US Senator? He/she is a publicly elected official, so no need to keep their name private.
Still yammering on about Michigan? Why do you keep ignoring that the black Republican Senate candidate that got creamed in Wayne County by an old, white liberal in 2020 also got creamed by an older, white liberal in 2018?
I would be betraying a trust if I named him. He's not someone who liked Trump in the least bit and he's not a guest on national news media. Considering the rank in his party, he's very bipartisan and couldn't stand Trump. Actually called for him to step down from his candidacy 4 years ago. He was very good friends with John McCain.
A high-ranking House member's dentist told my third cousin's neighbor that the LIBS! were just laying the groundwork back in 2018. Stuffed the ballot boxes for Debbie Stabenow just to throw investigators off the scent two years later. All part of a vast, diabolical plan.
The "information" you and others keep posting has largely been untrue, ie. rumors on social media, or misrepresented, meaning the details, once they are explained in full, significantly change the context. And I do blame Trump for this charade. He has zero interest in making the process more transparent, and neither do Republicans. Most all of these issues have been constant for years, and Republicans never complain about the outcome, for that matter neither do Democrats. The only reason Trump is making a big deal now is because he lost, and he wants to sully the very basis of our democracy by asking courts to invalidate votes cast against him. If you are even the slightest bit objective you would have to admit that is extremely messed up.
Conservatives keep railing against the tyranny of the left, while the only verifiable evidence of tyranny is that of our democratic process and courts of law, which overwhelmingly disagree with Trump. Don't get me wrong, the process could be improved. In fact, the cybersecurity efforts, much of which took place after the 2016 election in which Russia tried to intervene, were ratcheted up in advance of the election. And yet, when the top official in the land confirmed the process was secure, he was fired. I said this before, and I will say it again, the US elections process is unwieldy because it is a decentralized process. By the same token, that makes it exceedingly difficult to corrupt in a pervasive or coordinated way.
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