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RUTGERS95

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I would worry more about who replaces Surace if he gets hurt....which is a real possibility if our pass blocking doesn't improve in 2026.
I wish we'd make a push for a kid like lattee.

you are right, we've got nothing behind Surace
 
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RU#1fan

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Totally delusional? In no way am I an apologist for Schiano. He may not be the HC in 2 or 3 years and is not the guy to get RU to the top tier of the B1G. But not mediocre? At the end of the Ash era, RU was by far the worst power conf program and probably behind 15 or so GO5 programs. He has elevated the program to competitive in the bottom third of of the B1G. RU had lost what??? something like 21 conf games in a row? That’s legit progress. We are not where the program needs to be and people are tired of years of GS (Familiarity breeds contempt as the saying goes) but to say the guy is a horrible coach is truly delusional.
Mediocre???? LMAO
After 6 years and 53 B1G Conference Games Greg 2.0 has exactly ONE win against B1G team with a winning conference record. Horrible Coaching. Keep telling yourself otherwise.
 
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jsol_05

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No comparable Big ten NIL money has yet been spent on players. IF and when he gets those resources ,he will get a reasonable and fair evaluation.
Think a new AD will want to bring in her own people, no different from a HC wanting to bring in their own people. When the number are right think she will cut GS loose, if she is going to go down its only reasonable that she gets a fair evaluation with her own people.
 

jsol_05

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Totally delusional? In no way am I an apologist for Schiano. He may not be the HC in 2 or 3 years and is not the guy to get RU to the top tier of the B1G. But not mediocre? At the end of the Ash era, RU was by far the worst power conf program and probably behind 15 or so GO5 programs. He has elevated the program to competitive in the bottom third of of the B1G. RU had lost what??? something like 21 conf games in a row? That’s legit progress. We are not where the program needs to be and people are tired of years of GS (Familiarity breeds contempt as the saying goes) but to say the guy is a horrible coach is truly delusional.
Not horrible, not great, just a little under mediocre, 6 eggs in one hand a half a dozen in the other. I think we can agree on one thing he is not the person who will take us to the promise land.
 

Kbe4

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Not horrible, not great, just a little under mediocre, 6 eggs in one hand a half a dozen in the other. I think we can agree on one thing he is not the person who will take us to the promise land.
Funny that there are still some that think any coach could take Rutgers to the promised land.
Someone once said that Ara Parseghian could beat you with his players and then swap teams with you and beat you with your players. Ara passed away years ago. And there are certainly few coaches that you could say that about. Why would any of them ever consider coming to Rutgers ?
 

ru66+

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Think a new AD will want to bring in her own people, no different from a HC wanting to bring in their own people. When the number are right think she will cut GS loose, if she is going to go down its only reasonable that she gets a fair evaluation with her own people.
As was pointed out many times she gave Schiano huge praise. She realizes what he's done with no NIL $. She's on record that he was at severe disadvantage and it's her job to give him the advantages of other teams in BIG. She's not firing him give it up.
 
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rob kight

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I'm getting there. But I'd like to see a year or two where the full weight of the Athletic Administration is behind NIL instead of Schiano doing it all on his own. The story of Hobbs not engaging in NIL initiatives and actively hindering those activities were not just rumors. The collectives met nothing but pushback from his regime and he devoted no resources to it on his end, wanting absolutely nothing to do with it.
He was busy “Hobb-Nobbing”!
 
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RUGuitarMan1

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Mediocre???? LMAO
After 6 years and 53 B1G Conference Games Greg 2.0 has exactly ONE win against B1G team with a winning conference record. Horrible Coaching. Keep telling yourself otherwise.
Let’s pretend for a minute in your make believe world, that suddenly RU has $50 mill to fire the current staff and hire a new one (which they don’t), who are you going to hire? And don’t tell us some established HC who would have absolutely no interest in the RU job. Let us know who is going to come in and “save” RU football?
 
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Rhuarc

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Rutgers should have more portal money than any previous year due to our new AD so I'm not sure why anyone is making judgements on our talent level based on who has eligibility left. Let the process play out before predicting records.
 

Jtung230

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Rutgers should have more portal money than any previous year due to our new AD so I'm not sure why anyone is making judgements on our talent level based on who has eligibility left. Let the process play out before predicting records.
AD is not a magician. I hope I’m wrong
 

jsol_05

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As was pointed out many times she gave Schiano huge praise. She realizes what he's done with no NIL $. She's on record that he was at severe disadvantage and it's her job to give him the advantages of other teams in BIG. She's not firing him give it up.
She not firing him this year but a 5 win season this year and if he follows that up next year with a 5 win season he win get the talk, she will give him up. She don't come here to have her football team win 5 to 6 games a year
 

Shelby65

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Speaking of that - I was going to bring it up elsewhere- why is AK always diving to the ground on any running play? I see him do it when the nearest defender is 5-10 yds away from him. I have seen him do it on a 3rd down when the 1st down marker is close enough to get to but there he goes, diving to the ground 2 yards short. The kid can actually run but it gets frustrating to see other QB's just make a single easy cut and run down the field, but he just dives.
You know the answer: Schiano.
 
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Rhuarc

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AD is not a magician. I hope I’m wrong
That's true and I agree with you. For me, I've been backing off my fandom because I feel we'll never be able to compete on equal footing or make the right decisions that are needed to be successful. However, hope springs eternal and a new regim could lead to better results.
 

Jtung230

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That's true and I agree with you. For me, I've been backing off my fandom because I feel we'll never be able to compete on equal footing or make the right decisions that are needed to be successful. However, hope springs eternal and a new regim could lead to better results.
I hope you are not cheating with a side team. 😀

I still believe and enjoy the games/tailgates. Going to bowl games are always fun.
 

T2Kplus20

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I hope you are not cheating with a side team. 😀

I still believe and enjoy the games/tailgates. Going to bowl games are always fun.
I think the key to being a long-term RU fan that stays happy and sane is about learning the fine art of selective apathy. Sometimes you just need to turn it off and walk away for a while (whether a game or two or even a season or two, like when Eddie Jordan or Chris Ash were coach).
 
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T2Kplus20

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That's true and I agree with you. For me, I've been backing off my fandom because I feel we'll never be able to compete on equal footing or make the right decisions that are needed to be successful. However, hope springs eternal and a new regim could lead to better results.
LOL! This kind of sounds like the Yanks under the Hal Error.
 

RUTGERS95

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Let’s pretend for a minute in your make believe world, that suddenly RU has $50 mill to fire the current staff and hire a new one (which they don’t), who are you going to hire? And don’t tell us some established HC who would have absolutely no interest in the RU job. Let us know who is going to come in and “save” RU football?
ahhhh, the simplistic fall back of 'who' and pivot to deflect from the question and current state

we're in the bottom quartile of the BIG, not much further to go down but we do have the worst defense in 20+ years, an offense that has gone into a shell, a staff that isn't coaching kids up and much much more that is wrong. Hell, even Ash seemingly brought in better recruits and at least didn't have a defense this bad.

You could bring in Donald Duck and he wouldn't do much worse The who is less important than accepting that Greg isn't the answer and we need to start thinking post Greg.

We don't need to discuss the 'who' because Greg is here till at least next year. Next year we can real discussions on the who
 

Retired711

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According to Keli Zinn, NIL won't be a problem going forward.
The reason is that NIL isn't important any more the way it was. Under the House v. NCAA settlement, P4 schools are capped at $20.5 million annually (the figure will go up) in compensation to athletes. Third-party NIL deals (as with collectives) are severely restricted. We are spending up to the cap, and so we have the same compensation resources as everyone else.
 

Shelby65

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The reason is that NIL isn't important any more the way it was. Under the House v. NCAA settlement, P4 schools are capped at $20.5 million annually (the figure will go up) in compensation to athletes. Third-party NIL deals (as with collectives) are severely restricted. We are spending up to the cap, and so we have the same compensation resources as everyone else.
Are they restricted ? Or must they only be for tangible ‘work’ at market value ? If the blue bloods pay big bucks NIL, that becomes market value, no ?
 

bac2therac

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Oh.
Lose Saturday- grade D+. Extremely disappointing season.
Win Saturday- grade C-. Below average and expectations for year 6. Could have/should have beat one "better" team- Iowa, Minnesota, Washington and did not.

Too harsh

Loss today D

Win today B-

Win bowl B+
 
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Retired711

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Are they restricted ? Or must they only be for tangible ‘work’ at market value ? If the blue bloods pay big bucks NIL, that becomes market value, no ?
The "work" for an "associated entity" (legalese for a booster) has to be "for a valid business purpose related to the promotion or endorsement of goods or services being provided to the general public for profit." The range of compensation must be "commensurate with compensation paid to similarly situated individuals with comparable NIL value."

A lot of deals -- $80 million worth -- have been approved by the College Sports Commission under that standard. But, at least report. collectives are having a lot of trouble getting the College Sports Commission (the enforcement entity) to approve deals. The "valid business purpose" requirement is the big hurdle.

So the Rutgers collectives -- Knights of the Raritan and the Knight Society -- have closed down. Instead, Zinn is putting her emphasis on getting donations to the Athletic Excellence Fund to pay for NIL. But no matter how much is raised, Rutgers is capped at the same level as other P4 schools. What donations really do is to help Rutgers finance the rest of the department now that $20 million of its revenue is going to compensate athletes.
 
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sct1111

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The reason is that NIL isn't important any more the way it was. Under the House v. NCAA settlement, P4 schools are capped at $20.5 million annually (the figure will go up) in compensation to athletes. Third-party NIL deals (as with collectives) are severely restricted. We are spending up to the cap, and so we have the same compensation resources as everyone else.
That's a good thing.

Also, were spending $20.5 million? I don't think we're anywhere close.
 
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Retired711

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That's a good thing.

Also, were spending $20.5 million? I don't think we're anywhere close.
In February, Ryan Pissari, then acting AD, said we would spend the full $20.5 million allowed. It's hard for me to imagine we haven't followed through on that. https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.c...ad-plans-for-205m-payout-to-student-athletes/

A truly gut-wrenching loss today. I was convinced we would win after we took a three-point lead and then got the ball back and started driving. And I'm amazed that we had second and 2 on their 28, but couldn't pick up a first down on three plays. But . . .
 
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Kbe4

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In February, Ryan Pissari, then acting AD, said we would spend the full $20.5 million allowed. It's hard for me to imagine we haven't followed through on that. https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.c...ad-plans-for-205m-payout-to-student-athletes/

A truly gut-wrenching loss today. I was convinced we would win after we took a three-point lead and then got the ball back and started driving. And I'm amazed that we had second and 2 on their 28, but couldn't pick up a first down on three plays. But . . .
Same here.
Although them scoring in the last 23 seconds of the first half made me sure I couldn't relax until the game was over.