It should be an easy win. But breaking in a new QB and his first road game I can see us playing down to their level.
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Between 5-7 and 9-3. The season was defined by the games against Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois, and Washington. Coming into this year, I thought they would to go 2-2 in those games and be 7-5. So much for that.
Too soon to tell.
Will throw this out there.
3 wins baseline.
Two of Strong, Duff and Sheffield (eligible?) back- add 2 more wins.
New, experienced DC- add 2 more wins
The wildcard, however, will be how Surace performs as the starter. The above 4 additional wins assumes, he is serviceable.
Can’t find the old thread on it. Will be interesting to see what people were expecting vs actual. I would think 6-6 is the consensus
Oh.
Lose Saturday- grade D+. Extremely disappointing season.
Win Saturday- grade C-. Below average and expectations for year 6. Could have/should have beat one "better" team- Iowa, Minnesota, Washington and did not.
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Seemed 6-8 wins was consensus. 7 was a popular prediction.
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Among the media from 5-7 up to 7-5. Among posters mostly 6-6 to 8-4, though Shelby was at 2-10 saying they could even get to 3 for his 3rd person denunciations and RutgersAl was 10-2 with the fieldhouse getting funded.
When you mute the extremes on both ends, the conversation in the middle is usually reasonable
If he goes 4-8 and is still here in 2027, we aren't serious about big time football.
The usual people are so mental about Schiano they are irrational. Besides his contract,etc.they can't accept the fact that the new administration has already called Schiano an exceptional coach considering the resources he's working with.Until they get him those resources no one is being fired.As a matter of fact firing him before getting him those resources is a recognition of their own failure.
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I am talking about the NIL era- the one thing he has been pretty good at is retaining players.
Earlier this year I really wanted to see what he could do with resources but after just giving up against Oregon and OSU…I’m done with him
You're right that Schiano isn't going to be fired. I'm going to be crass again. (See the ACC thread for another example.) Right now, it would cost $23 million to buy him out. It will be less next year, but I think only about $4 million less -- I believe the buyout is based on 2/3rds of his remaining compensation and he gets paid IIRC $6.5 a year. Where is that $20 million-plus going to come from? The school isn't going to do it and we don't have donors who will put it up. Schiano is going to be here for a few more years unless he gets tired of coaching.
I don't entirely agree with your point about resources. The House settlement, which became effective in July, radically transformed the landscape. We are spending up to the cap on compensating athletes. Third-party NIL though boosters has been curbed; it's no accident that the Rutgers collective is pretty much out of business. The one thing we perhaps need is better facilities, such as the fieldhouse that @RutgersAl is always talking about. But Schiano agreed to take the lead on fundraising for that; maybe he can now that it's no longer necessary to solicit money to pay NIL.
No comparable Big ten NIL money has yet been spent on players. IF and when he gets those resources ,he will get a reasonable and fair evaluation.
10-2 was absolutely impossible without a fieldhouse, since it would have clearly prevented the second half collapses in 2 of the losses and prevented the generally abysmal defense in the multiple non competitive routs.
You can't pin the majority of the 12 losses in the last 2 years on a lack of resources. You can pin them on below average to bad coaching, however. Schiano isn't getting fired. If the current level of mediocre coaching continues with better resources, the losses will just become more frustrating.
I think we are kind of agreeing with each other
The lack of resources excuse is such weak sauce. Another in a long list of excuses that some fans take hook, line and sinker
Yep…. Greg has one win. In 6 years in B1G Conference play Greg has exactly one win in Conference against a Team with a winning conference record. That would be against Minnesota last year.
Those who he say he is mediocre are totally delusional. Absolute example of futility. Time to move on.
Totally delusional? In no way am I an apologist for Schiano. He may not be the HC in 2 or 3 years and is not the guy to get RU to the top tier of the B1G. But not mediocre? At the end of the Ash era, RU was by far the worst power conf program and probably behind 15 or so GO5 programs. He has elevated the program to competitive in the bottom third of of the B1G. RU had lost what??? something like 21 conf games in a row? That’s legit progress. We are not where the program needs to be and people are tired of years of GS (Familiarity breeds contempt as the saying goes) but to say the guy is a horrible coach is truly delusional.
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The problem isn’t the buyout per se. It’s that no other AD looking for a new coach would go anywhere near him even if wearing doubled-up human sized condoms over a hazmat suit from a mile away, so there wouldn’t be any offset from another program.
Remember, he doesn't have to get a head coaching job for there to be an offset and remember as well that he has an obligation to make a good-faith efforts to find another job. The present OSU defensive coordinator is said to make $2.5 million, but we can't count on Schiano making that much in a DC positoin, Even if he makes $1.5 million annually, the buyout would still net at about $15 million. We might as well recognize that he's going to be here for several more years if he wants to be.
Some fans want to see competent coaching.
Running back kickoffs and punts.
Containing the edge on defense.
Not being in the bottom of nearly every defensive category.
Players knowing where to line up before the ball is being snapped.
One would think the plethora of coaches and assistants and a spend in the top 1/3 of the B1G would be considered "resources." Guess that fits in another category?
HC DC whatever, he‘d be unwanted. Mediocre at best since 2010 and loses 75% of Big10 games. Absolutely no interest in him anywhere else in the country 6 years ago and since.
No chance of offset with him.
Do the top teams in the B1G have a lot more resources than RU? Are teams that don’t have the resources like Purdue and Maryland stuck at the bottom like RU? You might not like GS as a HC. But we don’t have the resources to fire him. Just stating the obvious
You did not answer anything, as usual.
6 years, what has been accomplished?
Top 1/3 spending for assistants and staff.
Could not attract a top DC for reasons not actually known, but evident.
Even with all of the current resources on par or greater than Minnesota, Washington, Illinois and the like, he has not beat a peer team, and has only beat the bottom feeders of the B1G.
Never said anything about firing him. Save the money for more resources to spend on a new coach when it makes better sense to cut him loose.
I answered you directly. I replied to your post about not having resources as a weak sauce excuse. Your biggest issue is that you think we are on par or greater than Washington, Illinois and Minnesota.
No, my biggest issue is the only game Greg has as a signature win in year six is beating Minnesota last year.
He finds ways to lose games: Illinois and UCLA 2024, getting blown out by Wisconsin last year.
It's a a brand new excuse each year.
Is your standard for retention 6-6 records and 3-6 in the B1G every year?
And what will your reaction be if Rutgers gets blown out by more than 20 points tomorrow? It's OK, we will do better next year?
My expectations are correlated to the talent we have or bring in. If we lose key contributors to NIL, I can’t fault GS. If we find a big donor and bring in a boat load of talent, I expect him to make a run for the B1G championship. Btw, Washington’s contribution (aka donations) revenue for
AK was serviceable. We need a dynamic QB who can make throws like AK and make plays with his legs.
Speaking of that - I was going to bring it up elsewhere- why is AK always diving to the ground on any running play? I see him do it when the nearest defender is 5-10 yds away from him. I have seen him do it on a 3rd down when the 1st down marker is close enough to get to but there he goes, diving to the ground 2 yards short. The kid can actually run but it gets frustrating to see other QB's just make a single easy cut and run down the field, but he just dives.
That costs a lot of money, but obviously worth it if you want to compete against the big boys.
Look at Ohio’s QB or Washington’s QB. GS’s evaluation of QBs are too NFL prototype. It’s ok to be shorter than 6’3.