Look, I understand yesterday sucked and it's a game we should have won. And coming off of last year, it looks like here we go again. But let's look back at just two seasons ago. That team started off 8-3, with losses to Evansville, and then back to back mid-December losses to Utah and Ohio State. That team went on to win the SEC, finished 25-6, was in line to be a 2-seed and had as good a chance as any team in the field to cut down the nets. Bash me all you want, but we have to remember the CBB season is a marathon and not a sprint. People calling for Cal's head also need to realize that means Antigua and Chin are gone, along with next year's recruiting class. A lot of prisoners of the moment around here. I'm confident this team will get better, won't have a shooting performance like they did yesterday too often, and will be a second weekend tournament team with potential to make a deep run. After turning over the staff, coming off a 9-16 season, some would call that a solid bridge year to building for the future.
Lest we forget 2019-2020?
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Good points. I saw a lot of things I didn't like yesterday but am waiting to see if this team can evolve as many have in the past.
People calling for Cal's head also need to realize that means Antigua and Chin are gone, along with next year's recruiting class.
That would also include losing Wagner Jr. in the 2023 class.
People calling for Cal's head also need to realize that means Antigua and Chin are gone, along with next year's recruiting class.
That would also include losing Wagner Jr. in the 2023 class.
But making a shift away from simply a one and done program... With transfers and guys returning year after year (Wheeler, Ware, Allen, Frederick next year), plus bringing in #1 recruiting classes... Things fans wanted to change, which Cal has changed... That means a lot.
What has Cal changed? Certainly not his coaching which needs to change the most.
True. Everything else seems to be pointing in the right trajectory. Onward and upward. Swaggy Cal will rescue us.
Understand also that Cal was sort of forced to take on a bunch of transfers this year because he pulled in his weakest freshman class since he’s been here. You could say that was necessity more than choice.
Look, I understand yesterday sucked and it's a game we should have won. And coming off of last year, it looks like here we go again. But let's look back at just on season ago. That team started off 1-6, with losses to richmond, and then back to back mid-December losses to UNC and Georgia tech. That team went on to losethe SEC, finished 9-16, was in line to be a 0 seed and had as good a chance as mcneese state to cut down the nets. Bash me all you want, but we have to remember the CBB season is a marathon and not a sprint. People calling for Cal's head also need to realize that means Draft night and #builtdifferent are gone, along with next year's recruiting class. A lot of prisoners of the moment around here. I'm confident this team will get worse, they will have a shooting performance like they did yesterday too often, and will be a second weekend NIT tournament team with potential to make a deep run. After turning over the staff, coming off a 9-16 season, some would call that a solid bridge year to building for the future.
Got rid of do nothing assistant coaches. Brought in two of the best recruiters in the game. Brought in shooters, not just athletes. Returned a handful of players. Has a #1 recruit signed for the first time in years. As STL mentioned, the trajectory is pointed up.
Doesn’t matter if he can’t coach offense.
What good is next year's class gonna mean if they aren't used to their potential?
The goal was also to bring in experience. Speaks more to the shift in building a more well rounded program that can be more continuous from one year to another. Shows me he wasn't going to depend solely on guys like Boston that don't live up to the hype.
Saturday is the defining moment. If they can come out and put a hurt on OSU the season has a chance.
Kentucky is about to fall behind Kansas.
Having horrible teams all season and making a run in March is not historically what the University of Kentucky has done. All of the season matters. This has repeated numerous years and to be honest too many years to be acceptable. It's time.
Having horrible teams all season and making a run in March is not historically what the University of Kentucky has done. All of the season matters. This has repeated numerous years and to be honest too many years to be acceptable. It's time.
Cal didn't shoot 2-19 from three yesterday. I ain't saying his offense is perfect... But if we shoot yesterday like we're capable, it's a W for the cats and we're all on here saying, "It wasn't pretty, but it was a gritty win."
We’ve only won 8 of the last 25 games against Power 5 schools. I’m not sure why anything else matters at this point.
It doesn't matter how good the recruits may be if we have what is our own version of Penny Hardaway coaching them. There was a time when Cal was a pretty good coach. But that time is past. The guy's completely clueless now, washed up and burnt out. He's ineffective. We need new leadership. I'll be happy to take a coach who gets lesser recruits who can coach them up and actually do something with them. The only reason that highly touted recruits are coming anyway is because they see UK as the quickest possible path to the NBA. Those are the kind of players with the sort of mindset I think we would honestly be better off without. I want a coach that coaches for and represents UK. I want players who want to be here because they love playing for UK. How nice would it be to have a kid capable of walking and chewing bubblegum at the same time return for another year?
Some people are just too oblivious to understand what is happening, or just simply don't understand what UK basketball should be. Wow.
CBB might be a marathon, but we're at about the 8 mile mark and we're already cramping up.
Ah see, that's my point. Potential isn't reached til March. Let's see what happens past December 11th. A lot of basketball to play. People seem to forget the troubles the 2011 and 2014 team had, final four teams no less. That was during the time Cal had it as a coach apparently.
Cal did a good job with that team, and I give him credit for that. Still, they were a huge dark horse to cut down the nets. Let’s not kid ourselves.
Yesterday was another bad game in a pattern of bad games. Plow horse basketball, playing on our heels, putrid offense, being dictated to by a fairly weak opponent.
This wasn’t a one off. The pattern is undeniable. Maybe we can turn it around this year, maybe not. But the best we can hope for at this moment is a rock fight in the round of 32, as we’ve seen for several years running.
No one fears us, and Cal isn’t scaring anyone. It’s pathetic, to be honest.
And I like these players. Feel bad for them in a way. They are currently playing for what used to be Kentucky.
Yesterday was another bad game in a pattern of bad games. Plow horse basketball, playing on our heels, putrid offense, being dictated to by a fairly weak opponent.
This wasn’t a one off. The pattern is undeniable. Maybe we can turn it around this year, maybe not. But the best we can hope for at this moment is a rock fight in the round of 32, as we’ve seen for several years running.
No one fears us, and Cal isn’t scaring anyone. It’s pathetic, to be honest.
And I like these players. Feel bad for them in a way. They are currently playing for what used to be Kentucky.
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And so far I’ve been given no reason to believe this “shift” is going to change anything in terms of results. We’ve played two teams that aren’t tomato cans and lost to them both. Hell, the one last night was 3-4.
How many years do we need to give it? Cal ain’t changing, bro.
So snarky. Been a fan my entire life. I understand UK basketball. I'm also going to have a realistic view of things. Ain't gonna be 38-2 every year chief.
That “ain’t gonna be 38-2 every year” might have meant something 3, 4years ago.
We’re going on 7 consecutive seasons not even pulling a 1 seed in the NCAA tournament.
This is just getting sad.It's always wait until March and when that doesn't work out it's wait until next season with the great class coming in.
Yeah, apparently so. That version of Cal is dead. Maybe he can be resurrected, but it’s not looking good.
I think we all realize what it means. But it's time for a change.
Let's see here...
2010 - 1 seed
2011 - 4 seed
2012 - 1 seed
2013 - No seed
2014 - 8 seed
2015 - 1 seed
2016 - 4 seed
2017 - 2 seed
2018 - 5 seed
2019 - 2 seed
2020 - Projected 2 seed
2021 - Nope
Yep.... Horrible seasons yield those seeds, I tell ya.
Lose a cluster of ugly basketball games in the winter - wait until march!”
lose in March -
“March is a crapshoot! Wait till the studs get here next year!”
next year -
Lose a cluster of ugly games in the winter, and it’s back to waiting until March again, then we lose and it’s a crapshoot again
there is no measure for accountability because apparently none of it matters anymore
So if deep tournament runs eliminate the struggles of the regular season, why are we cliff jumping in mid-December? Anyone that knows basketball knows we have the pieces to make a run this year. That hasn't changed because of a road loss.
2019-2020 would have been lucky to make it past the sw16. That team and this one are actually somewhat similar.
Hagans was a pass first PG with a ****** shooting ability but decent FT shooter.
Quickley and Grady are similar in skill, albeit Quickley was a more consistent player his
soph year.
Maxey and Washington are very similar.
Richards was the only front court player that we could depends on, but was foul prone. Much like Oscar.
Then a lot of other role players you hoped had a good game.
Unfortunately, for this team, the league is a lot tougher now. And even with an easier conference schedule, by the end of the season that team was imploding.
Hagans was a pass first PG with a ****** shooting ability but decent FT shooter.
Quickley and Grady are similar in skill, albeit Quickley was a more consistent player his
soph year.
Maxey and Washington are very similar.
Richards was the only front court player that we could depends on, but was foul prone. Much like Oscar.
Then a lot of other role players you hoped had a good game.
Unfortunately, for this team, the league is a lot tougher now. And even with an easier conference schedule, by the end of the season that team was imploding.
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I see 3 1 seeds in his 1st 6 years here, and now 7 consecutive seasons without a 1 seed
you’re right, nothing to see here
You do know we haven't made a final four in 6 seasons ?
Because none of us have any reason at all to believe a deep tourney run is going to happen at this point.
“anyone that knows basketball knows we have the pieces”
Are you sure about that? Like really sure?
C'mon... Splitting hairs here... Because the difference between a 1 seed and a 2 seed is a couple of spots in the poll.
Nobody said we needed to be 38-2, but if you took a look at what is going on with this program, you wouldn't wait to make a move.
2009-2015 Cal ain’t coming back, so what are you going to do, wait until UK falls behind Kansas AND uNC?
Rupp is looking like a rotisserie chicken in his grave right now. Cal is destroying this program and putting the NBA draft ahead of UK is disgusting.
Some nonsense in this post. Grady could not carry Quickley’s jock. Washington is no Maxey.
Right. People will forgive a choppy regular season when you went to a Final Four last year, or even 2 years ago.
But 7 years ago?