At my work we serve the homeless population daily, but none are homeless b/c of legal weed. You are correct mental health is the #1 reason for homelessness.
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At my work we serve the homeless population daily, but none are homeless b/c of legal weed. You are correct mental health is the #1 reason for homelessness.
Just think of the pot that could be grown in the Delta
We'd be the pot breadbasket of the world.
We'd be the pot breadbasket of the world.
Here's the problem. In 1966, the Mississippi legislature finally ended prohibition in the State, with the proviso that all the money would go to Education. The next year, the Legislature quietly transferred all that money to the General fund.
When the Casinos were legalized, all that money was supposed to go to education. Within a couple of years, most of THAT was transferred to the General Fund.
Any time a tax raise is foisted on the State, is alway for "education". In a couple of years it always gets funneled to the General fund.
You legalize pot in this State, the Legislature will see all that money in the Education fund, then quietly transfer it to the General Fund.
If every tax and legalization dollar went to Mississippi education like intended, the kids would be going to school in limos, have nine choices for meals, and the teachers would all be collecting 6-figure salaries.
While you are there, get a Portillos Italian Beef Sandwich (They are all over town)
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That way, if you don't make it home, the trip would have still been worth it.
Excellent sammich! Probably would be great after a toke or two.
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It's just that the money won't go to education
It will go to something else.
Personally, if they legalized pot, the Mississippi Delta would become the wealthiest region of the country.
It will go to something else.
Personally, if they legalized pot, the Mississippi Delta would become the wealthiest region of the country.
Lost revenue? They are planting the **** in public lands.
edit to add public lands in the US
edit to add public lands in the US
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Are those the meetings where Bob Sagat stands up and makes fun of you for your marijuana addiction?
I grew up in the burbs and my family just came into town for 4 days.
An hour ago, I passed the local portillos and lost count at 15 cars waiting in line because the line curved and kept going.
It is a constant stream of cars at that place every time I pass by.
We liked it growing up, but it was never as popular as it's become in the last decade.
I'd say I tend to prefer smaller government over bigger government. How about you? Lemme guess... you're a fan of BIG government right?
Unless you are also against the recreational use of alcohol, you are a massive hypocrite. So are you against alcohol too or are you a hypocrite?
The comparison of the 2 isn't even close. The amount of damage alcohol does to your body, families, and society is so much larger than weed it's not really comparable. Alcohol is much worse in every measurable way. If you are unaware of this, do yourself a favor and look at the facts. The financial and criminal impact to society of alcohol is staggering. The percentage of violent crimes and child abuse that involve alcohol is much worse than anything associated with weed
I don't say all that because I think alcohol should be illegal. I say it because both should be legal. I hope that if people think with common Sense on this they might understand how misguided your opinion is.
If you don't want weed legal because it's "bad". Well then live by that statement.
Probably should ban sugar too
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I always laugh at the people that say "I don't do drugs, I just drink". Alcohol is a drug morons.
Is there no way possible to write the law that would permanently earmark all tax revenue for education? That would make it impossible for any generation to transfer the funds, perhaps without undoing the legalization itself? Admittedly I dont know enough about legislation to say for sure, but I dont see why a bill couldn't be passed with that provision.
You can make a law to say all money goes to education, but laws can be rewritten. There will be enough self serving politicians to take money away from education and put it into the things that get them re-elected.
And mental health is also the reason those people seek that type of self medication, as stated. If it wasn’t weed it would just be something else. Anyone who goes from working a 9 to 5 and providing for his / her family and somehow falls into a death spiral where they end up living out of a tent under an overpass has a lot more deep rooted issues than can be caused by just smoking marijuana.
This is the Social Authority Principle and it is older than Mill but was articulated well by him in the Classically Liberal treatise On Liberty. It can be read about here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harm_principle#Broader_definitions_of_harm
The issue with it is the same for all of these topics, i.e. that 'harm' cannot be readily and thoroughly defined, and even if it could the antagonism between it and liberty can always only be settled as a matter of preference.
The argument has been used both ways to advocate or argue against topics as broad as guns, porn, drugs, fast food, gay marriage, free speech, etc. It all boils down to 1. Your conception of reality and 2. Your desire for society given what is 'known' about 1.
What's fun is that anyone can use it as an argument to ban or advocate for anything.
The issue with it is the same for all of these topics, i.e. that 'harm' cannot be readily and thoroughly defined, and even if it could the antagonism between it and liberty can always only be settled as a matter of preference.
The argument has been used both ways to advocate or argue against topics as broad as guns, porn, drugs, fast food, gay marriage, free speech, etc. It all boils down to 1. Your conception of reality and 2. Your desire for society given what is 'known' about 1.
What's fun is that anyone can use it as an argument to ban or advocate for anything.
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No....until a field intoxication test is perfected.
Driving intoxicated is the same whether weed or alcohol.
After that, if one wants to stay high 25 hours a day is fine with me. Knock yourself out.....
Whoops. Now the state/county can seize that person’s car, cash, and any other valuables deemed as being “used in the commission of this crime”.
Never forget, the five biggest contributors to the non-legalization efforts are:
1. Big Pharma
2. Big Alcohol
3. Big Tobacco
4. Police Unions
5. Privately owned prison system
Just follow the money.
And they don't even have to charge anyone with a crime, much less convict them, to do it. It just blows my mind that this can happen in a "free" country.
You can call me a hypocrite, you can call me a Mutha 17'er, you can call me a sh!thead…...that's your right. I know what alcohol can do to a person. I got to know someone last summer and they grew up with an alcoholic parent. (ACOA laundry list....she has 75% of it) This person is struggling with alcohol now - in 3 or 4 years I think she'll be a full blown alcoholic if she doesn't get help. It hurt to see this and I had to walk away.....So yeah, I'm well aware of alcohol and it's effect on people and I've questioned my stance on it the last few months.....And you know what? It's MY STANCE (on both pot and alcohol) not YOUR'S. I'm not bashing you for your stance on this so shut the 17 up about mine.
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What about fast food? It is obvious it is pretty bad for you and can in the end kill you. Lots of preservatives and junk in all of it. Should fast food be illegal?
How about nicotine? Obviously very addictive and bad for you.
Prescription painkillers?
How about nicotine? Obviously very addictive and bad for you.
Prescription painkillers?
Advil says right on the bottle it increases the risk of heart attack and stroke. That doesn’t sound very safe. Guess we should ban it too.
Another false narrative, high grade weed is grown indoors where you can control, the temperature, humidity, water level and lighting.
Now Hemp, that could grow outdoors in MS and flourish, which is what CBD is made of.
Most high quality herb sold here in CO is closer to 20%-30% THC and the concentrates are 80%-90%.
Don't drive after smoking or dabbing those concentrates, just saying. Uber ot Lyft is your Friend.
I was actually on the side of at least considering legalization, but it really messed up a guy in my church (such as public nudity) and destroyed his marriage.
If you earmark the money for education and the source is equal to or greater than the current funding for education, it will work fine. But usually it's like the casino money. The existing funding levels aren't for ***** and giggles. They are set that way based on a lot of political horse trading over different priorities. If new money is available for education, the different priorities don't change, and you just end up reducing funding that was going to education from other sources. So when casino money came avaialble, less money from the general fund was put towards it. It was worse with casino money because a lot of the casino money was just money the state otherwise would have collected through sales tax, so it wasn't really new additional money. IT was some new additional money and some cannabalized sales tax and other revenue.
The other alternative is to fund something you wouldn't otherwise fund, such as college scholarships. You can't reduce primary education funding because of college scholarships. But the downside to that is you are basically writing into law that you are going to fund something that is a low priority in hopes that other money is made available for higher priority stuff.
This isn't the 1960's. You know the THC and CBD concentration the same way you know that Jim Beam is 40% alcohol. It's on the label.
Alcohol is involved in 30% of all traffic Fatalities. Opiates in 50%.
From a healthcare perspective, what is the logic behind THC and CBD being Schedule I.
[FONT="]dronabinol - synthetic THC (DEA approved in 1986, Schedule II since 1999)
[/FONT][FONT="]nabilone[/FONT][FONT="] - [/FONT][FONT=Noto Sans, Century Gothic, Arial, sans-serif]synthetic THC (DEA approved in 1985)[/FONT]
[FONT=Noto Sans, Century Gothic, Arial, sans-serif]Because it seems that the Evil addictive THC has been legal for a drug company to make money off of for 35 years.[/FONT]
[FONT=Noto Sans, Century Gothic, Arial, sans-serif]So again, from an educated " healthcare perspective" why is Cannabis still Schedule I with " [/FONT]no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States"??[FONT="]
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I have no problem with pot being legalized. It should be, particularly for medicinal purposes. But these statements are ridiculous. You can't prove or quantify that there would be less drunk drivers on the road. Calling it "healthier" than anything else is dangerous. Marijuana is a drug that alters your mental state, just like alcohol. You are still ingesting smoke into your lungs as you smoke it, like cigarettes. Spare me the arguments about differences in hemp smoke versus tobacco smoke. Once upon a time, and not too long ago, doctors recommended cigarettes, too.
Any law enforcement officer in bigger metropolitan areas will tell you that driving under the influence of marijuana has become an increasingly bigger problem. Like any other drug, legal or illegal, the problem with marijuana use is the user's ability (or inability) to moderate intake or use responsibly.
Personally, I'd love to be able to walk ten steps in downtown Memphis without smelling it everywhere, but hey, to hell with my rights, right?
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Dud.
Stop.
If your "issue" is someone took too much and got a little too high. Then you should see what happens in Frat houses after a football game.
Do yourself a favor. Do some research on why Cannabis was made Illegal in the US. Why it was called "[FONT=open-sans, sans-serif]marijuana" instead of Cannabis, [/FONT]and how is was marketed to the public as being evil and what organizations disapproved of the law.. And Who was spearheading the movement to make it illegal, and why...
Here are some links to start
https://www.history.com/news/why-the-u-s-made-marijuana-illegal
https://timeline.com/harry-anslinger-racist-war-on-drugs-prison-industrial-complex-fb5cbc281189
https://fee.org/articles/the-racist-roots-of-marijuana-prohibition/
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/dope/etc/cron.html
https://www.law.du.edu/documents/marijuana-summit/La-Guardia-Report.pdf
Stop.
If your "issue" is someone took too much and got a little too high. Then you should see what happens in Frat houses after a football game.
Do yourself a favor. Do some research on why Cannabis was made Illegal in the US. Why it was called "[FONT=open-sans, sans-serif]marijuana" instead of Cannabis, [/FONT]and how is was marketed to the public as being evil and what organizations disapproved of the law.. And Who was spearheading the movement to make it illegal, and why...
Here are some links to start
https://www.history.com/news/why-the-u-s-made-marijuana-illegal
https://timeline.com/harry-anslinger-racist-war-on-drugs-prison-industrial-complex-fb5cbc281189
https://fee.org/articles/the-racist-roots-of-marijuana-prohibition/
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/dope/etc/cron.html
https://www.law.du.edu/documents/marijuana-summit/La-Guardia-Report.pdf
Your guy was probably on spice. Further, then you should be in favor of criminalization of alcohol then. It’s destroyed way more lives and marriages than pot ever could.