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Len2003

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People in this thread are calling people soft for being upset about a noose. But in another thread, people are big mad and offended because someone wrote something mean about the South and obesity.
 

QuaoarsKing

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There's a whole thread on 247 with multiple people saying it was a racially insensitive tweet, context doesn't matter, a noose is a racially charged symbol and if you don't know that you're stupid or ignorant.

I don't think many people think Leach intended for it to be racist, but many think the tweet had racial undertones and was stupid for him to post. You're literally the only person I've seen go with the DeRunnya/PJ angle.

The sociology professor tagged many official MSU twitter handles with her comments, so I'm sure that along with the players' tweets caused Leach himself or someone to tell him to take it down. If you don't think the blow back from those offended (or offended for others) based on it being "racially insensitive" caused him to apologize, I don't know what to tell you. I'm just glad I wasn't the only one that didn't know a noose was an offensive symbol to some regardless of the context.

I would agree the "outrage" for him having to apologize now seems greater than the outrage over the tweet, but it was there nevertheless. And I'm not surprised more people are "outraged" over the apology because most people didn't see it as having racist implications in the first place.

Sure, I may have nailed it or I may have gone full Charlie. Either way, there are a dozen posts on this thread alone getting outraged at our players over some Tweets that are probably taken out of context and gone now anyway. That's a shame.

 
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Shamoan

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Our ***** *** fanbase doesn’t deserve Leach. I thought we were a fairly homogeneous group of dove hunting baws, but the last two seasons have exposed the weak liberal underbelly that is a surprising number among us.
 
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Some black people were burned, some shot, some knifed to death, some dragged behind cars or run over. Shall we also make it "racially insenstive" to make jokes that, though they don't include black people, do include cars, guns, knives & fire?

How about crosses, since so many of them were used by being torched in the yards of black people decades ago, should we stop using crosses in public messages?

Or maybe...just maybe some people need to stop looking for any excuse to claim victimization,, racism, racial insensitivity, etc., especially when it is crystal clear something had absolutely nothing to do with race.
 

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Haven’t seen it, but one of my coworkers, from Connecticut none the less, brought it to my attention, and basically said, ‘people need to get a sense of humor’.. all I know,
 
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Nothing in the ESPN article alleges any kind of racism, it just relies on Horka's article for everyone. Horka has always been an idiot, and he took a couple of players' one-word Tweets out of context to drum up a controversy over nothing.

Doesn't change the fact that there is more counter-outrage on this thread alone than actual outrage on the entire Internet that spawned it.

Kobe's Tweet is deleted by the way (assuming the ESPN article's links are correct). Thanks all you Bulldogs who bullied, raged, and attacked him over some fake motivation you made up for him.

The outrage is that 2 major news organizations and a professor with a semi large following are trying to make a mountain out of Something that should not even be news. I'm sorry that you can't comprehend that. It is a big deal when idiots that buy the ink by the barrel and paper by the roll try to insinuate that a harmless joke by our head coach has racial undertones. The 800 or so replies to the ESPN article largely agree that this is entirely ridiculous and stupid. When your head coach is in the news for being "racially insensitive" when he recruits 90% black players it's not a good thing.
 
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Our ***** *** fanbase doesn’t deserve Leach. I thought we were a fairly homogeneous group of dove hunting baws, but the last two seasons have exposed the weak liberal underbelly that is a surprising number among us.

Agreed.
 

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There's a whole thread on 247 with multiple people saying it was a racially insensitive tweet, context doesn't matter, a noose is a racially charged symbol and if you don't know that you're stupid or ignorant.

I don't think many people think Leach intended for it to be racist, but many think the tweet had racial undertones and was stupid for him to post. You're literally the only person I've seen go with the DeRunnya/PJ angle.

The sociology professor tagged many official MSU twitter handles with her comments, so I'm sure that along with the players' tweets caused Leach himself or someone to tell him to take it down. If you don't think the blow back from those offended (or offended for others) based on it being "racially insensitive" caused him to apologize, I don't know what to tell you. I'm just glad I wasn't the only one that didn't know a noose was an offensive symbol to some regardless of the context.

I would agree the "outrage" for him having to apologize now seems greater than the outrage over the tweet, but it was there nevertheless. And I'm not surprised more people are "outraged" over the apology because most people didn't see it as having racist implications in the first place.

That professor obviously has serious mental issues.
 

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Am so sick of this crap. That meme has been all over Facebook. It is a direct insinuation that wives and husbands are stick together for long periods of time and meant to be funny!

Damn people are freaking ridiculous!!!

Except when the spray painted man child gets made fun of.

That's serus sheeeut.
 

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If you've followed fabo 54 on twitter, you know his political leanings from past tweets. I unfollowed him quickly.
 

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Some black people were burned, some shot, some knifed to death, some dragged behind cars or run over. Shall we also make it "racially insenstive" to make jokes that, though they don't include black people, do include cars, guns, knives & fire?

How about crosses, since so many of them were used by being torched in the yards of black people decades ago, should we stop using crosses in public messages?

Or maybe...just maybe some people need to stop looking for any excuse to claim victimization,, racism, racial insensitivity, etc., especially when it is crystal clear something had absolutely nothing to do with race.

solid post.
 

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People in this thread are calling people soft for being upset about a noose. But in another thread, people are big mad and offended because someone wrote something mean about the South and obesity.

No, people are saying the Bloomberg publication is taking shots at the south while NY is the epicenter of the virus with tons of people dying.
 

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Maybe our players are sharp enough to recognize a tweet that'll soon be deleted.
 

GTAdawg

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Definitely reassuring to me that while you may believe it is the dumbest comment in this thread - it doesn't come close to all of the dumb comments you make on this board.
 

ckDOG

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Americans (or maybe journalists and twitter heroes) just can't let things end

Something about our culture these days where we have to amplify every scenario to its most extreme implications. Why can't we just be happy with this:

1) guy posts a meme funny to many in a certain context
2) guy is informed it is offensive to many in a different context
3) guy says "you're right, I didn't consider that, I'm sorry" and takes meme down
4) everyone moves on

Why is this apparently not acceptable?
 
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We truly don't deserve Leach. The man's been coaching 33 years and until now

he's not once been accused of anything racial. His most controversial moment involved a white player. From a prominent family no less. Quite frankly, if Erroll paid as much attention to his meal plan as he does playing victim on twitter, he might live up to his NFL potential. I have no question the very guys bitching also are the ones bitching about the new off season workouts. You know, the ones where you actually have to workout.
 

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It should be the way it works. There's an unfortunate trend now where the media runs a story with about how someone posted something on social media and "everyone is outraged". When you actually look at the post, there are sometimes less than 5 negative replies.
 

BigWorm.sixpack

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it's really sad that our society has come to this. I understand what you're saying and agree with the premise but anyone that is truly offended by this is a really ignorant human being.
You know, I get offended by a lot of s*** I see on twitter, FB, TikTok, whatever. It seems to me, it all depends on who's getting offended that the other party is forced to issue a statement of apology. I don't see that many celebrity athletes issuing apologies when they put something out there that my 11 year old daughter, or anyone else with morals has any business viewing. But yet it's ok, because they are "keeping it real" or it's "real talk".
 
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Except when the spray painted man child gets made fun of.

That's serus sheeeut.
Well let's see. One case is a direct insult with intent and example #200 million of similar triggered sufferers of TDS, while the other is completely innocent, clearly with no intent toward to idiots who claim "racial sensitivity".
 

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I don't think Leach's tweet was racist, nor have I seen anyone say that Leach is racist for tweeting it. That's a straw man.

What people have said, however, is that the tweet was racially insensitive (which is not the same thing). Why might some people think that? Instead of immediately lashing out at the "PC police," let's consider it. The joke is that the wife is knitting a "scarf" that is actually a noose -- i.e., her husband is going to be hanged. Why might a black person think a joke about a hanging isn't very funny? It could be, perhaps, that more than 4,000 black people were lynched (or hanged) in the American South between the end of the Civil War and the 1950s. The last lynching was in 1981.

So it could be, perhaps, that we have to consider the context and experiences through which different people with different backgrounds view different symbols. To a black Southerner whose family or community may have been directly impacted by racially motivated hangings just one or two generations ago, a noose is not a symbol that inspires many laughs. If you don't come at it with that context, it can be very easy to say "I don't get the big deal. The meme explains itself." Rather than criticize people for seeing things differently, wouldn't it be better to stop and ask yourself, "Can I better understand why this person feels the way that he does?"

Just my two cents.

The joke is NOT "...the wife knitting a scarf...". The joke is very clearly about a husband and wife spending to much time together. I've seen nearly the same thing with the wife digging a grave, or the text of the meme indicating that the husband had already been buried, etc. Every single one had the exact same theme. Couples are getting on each other's nerves because of time spent together during this crisis. The person who looks at that and finds racism is just looking to be offended and that gets old, really quickly.

Anyone who would find offense in that is just as small minded as the person who would actually use a noose to create fear or racial strife. They just line up on the PC/virtue signalling side of things and hide behind a culture that allows, and treats as normal, any perceived offense. It's incredibly old hat and disheartening.
 

horshack.sixpack

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It was a quarantine craziness meme. It most assuredly had nothing to do with suicide so remove that from your narrative. And it really had nothing to do with murder. It was a joke about too much time spent together. Surely anyone functioning above K5 grade level could understand that, right? I mean our illustrious offended Sociology professor not included of course. If that is who started this, that person should be dismissed. <-not kidding
 
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Our ***** *** fanbase doesn’t deserve Leach. I thought we were a fairly homogeneous group of dove hunting baws, but the last two seasons have exposed the weak liberal underbelly that is a surprising number among us.

Our ***** *** fan base doesn’t deserve you...have you considered going back to Africa?
 

horshack.sixpack

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Bigger problem: Too many people believe that what they feel is the truth and live that way. Your feelings will lie to you. Just because you feel it doesn't give it credibility other than you needing to figure out how to deal with it. This idea that everyone's feelings must be honored and sovereign, is a complete lie. Your feelings are not the voice of God. Nor are mine.

I am NOT talking about people who run roughshod over others and mistreat them. I'm talking about this culture of made up offenses that would completely burn someone to the ground for insulting someone else's feelings, whether intentional or not.
 

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Well let's see. One case is a direct insult with intent and example #200 million of similar triggered sufferers of TDS, while the other is completely innocent, clearly with no intent toward to idiots who claim "racial sensitivity".

The fact that Leach is a Trump supporter isn't gonna go over well with A LOT of our team members. That is just a fact.

It would be the most MSU thing ever if he never coached a single game due to global pandemic/insensitive tweets and disgruntled football players.
 

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And horse thieves, Murderers, bank robbers, train robbers, stage coach robbers. I could go on, but I understand that today, the “hangman’s noose” only represents one thing and we better be sensitive or else.

There were evil white people who abused black peoples just because of their skin color. We all studied history. But history shows us there were atrocities against ALL races. Know anyone who had family members gassed to death in Germany, man, woman, and child? Millions; and then thrown into a single grave. How about modern day Middle East? Millions.

How about the Jews in Egypt?

Humans have a propensity to be evil to one another, without a Moral Compass.

I’m done talking about this. Coach owes no other response.
 

Len2003

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No, people are saying the Bloomberg publication is taking shots at the south while NY is the epicenter of the virus with tons of people dying.

They're acting like giant babies over a silly article. We have a certain segment of fans that act like little girls anytime they read something negative about Mississippi State or the South. They clutch their pearls and cry because someone they don't know hurt their feelings by saying words they don't like.
 

QuaoarsKing

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The fact that Leach is a Trump supporter isn't gonna go over well with A LOT of our team members. That is just a fact.

It would be the most MSU thing ever if he never coached a single game due to global pandemic/insensitive tweets and disgruntled football players.

Leach's political views are the same as Mullen's and a whole bunch of other coaches. It's not a big deal.

I mean, Mullen was explicitly tweeting pics of his wife and #MAGA signs back in 2016 and we all survived.
 
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