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Absolute idiots that we may need on our football team or an absolute idiot whose son, nephew, or cousin we may need on our football team.

CML is still better at Twittter than Trump... but probably not by much.

You are exactly right. Them being on our team doesn't make them right.
 

QuaoarsKing

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I can’t. I don’t copy tweets and store them for funsies.

On twitter in the last hour, I’ve seen the CL has a story on it and I saw Dan Wolken comment on it.

His tweet had nothing to do about race. It was a play in quarantining with your significant other and the stress that sometimes can cause. But a noose is symbolic of something that gets a reaction from a faction of the population.

So nobody on this board, nor the Clarion Ledger, nor ESPN, can provide any evidence that any player thought the Tweet was racist? Theres more anger on this thread alone at our players than supposed anger over this Tweet (which no one can find when prompted).

How many Six Pack Countermeltdowns will we have until we learn? Let's save our meltdowns for things that actually happen, not things that theoretically could but actually don't.
 
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So nobody on this board, nor the Clarion Ledger, nor ESPN, can provide any evidence that any player thought the Tweet was racist?

How many Six Pack Countermeltdowns will we have until we learn? Let's save our meltdowns for things that actually happen, not things that theoretically could but actually don't.
The below image doesn’t prove they thought it was racist, but it does prove, they didn’t like it at least.
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bruiser.sixpack

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I don't think Leach's tweet was racist, nor have I seen anyone say that Leach is racist for tweeting it. That's a straw man.

What people have said, however, is that the tweet was racially insensitive (which is not the same thing). Why might some people think that? Instead of immediately lashing out at the "PC police," let's consider it. The joke is that the wife is knitting a "scarf" that is actually a noose -- i.e., her husband is going to be hanged. Why might a black person think a joke about a hanging isn't very funny? It could be, perhaps, that more than 4,000 black people were lynched (or hanged) in the American South between the end of the Civil War and the 1950s. The last lynching was in 1981.

So it could be, perhaps, that we have to consider the context and experiences through which different people with different backgrounds view different symbols. To a black Southerner whose family or community may have been directly impacted by racially motivated hangings just one or two generations ago, a noose is not a symbol that inspires many laughs. If you don't come at it with that context, it can be very easy to say "I don't get the big deal. The meme explains itself." Rather than criticize people for seeing things differently, wouldn't it be better to stop and ask yourself, "Can I better understand why this person feels the way that he does?"

Just my two cents.

********! No excuse! And trying to rationalize what someone else “might” perceive is milking the sensitivity. Let em eat cake! And drink a glass of milk. Oh hell! I stepped into it now. Milk is white.
 

was21

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Sometimes he appears to have his head up his a--. First the political tweets and now that. Maybe too many margaritas in key west
 

BossDawg78

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Seems like this is everything now a days. Every different faction of the population is offended by something in today’s world.

But it only matters when particular groups get offended. Different rules for different groups, ya see. It must be miserable going through life obsessively looking for "racism" just so you can either be 1.) a victim, or 2.) a social justice "hero" trying to get a pat in the back for calling it out.
 

paindonthurt_

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People clearly don’t use dictionaries anymore Bc the dictionary definition of racism is way different than what the softies use.
 

QuaoarsKing

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But it only matters when particular groups get offended. Different rules for different groups, ya see. It must be miserable going through life obsessively looking for "racism" just so you can either be 1.) a victim, or 2.) a social justice "hero" trying to get a pat in the back for calling it out.

The only people "offended" here are 14 people (by my count) who are outraged by the idea that a black person might think a Tweet is racist

On the other hand, there is supposedly 1 sociology professor upset over it (haven't seen any evidence, but I believe it), and 2 football players with a total of 3 words that have been construed to mean they think it was racist too, but it's a big stretch.

So at best it's 14-3, and probably 14-1, and hundreds to 1 if you count everyone on Twitter having the same strong reactions. As basically always with these things, the counteroutrage is much larger, louder, and whinier than the "outrage" that inspired it.
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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I mean the dang meme clearly states it with the photo. She said she was knitting a scarf for her “husband”! Not a black person! Not a Brown person! Not a poor person! HER DAMN HUSBAND! If we truly had black players on our team that got offended by that, then those dumb asses must have been the ones who needed a tutor to take their test. Screw em.

You missed the note where the going way to think is that everything is about me or it is racist or etc, etc, etc.


I honestly even Jesus would have a tough time with our social media/media/SJW's.
 

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As I have posted on here before, too many Americans today view the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes and feel what they feel as a weakness not a virtue.
 

DAWG61

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Why does Leach delete his controversial tweets? I really don't understand what he's trying to achieve with his Twitter personality. Either leave it all up and don't apologize for **** or stop making stupid controversial tweets.
 
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Why does Leach delete his controversial tweets? I really don't understand what he's trying to achieve with his Twitter personality. Either leave it all up and don't apologize for **** or stop making stupid controversial tweets.

he's got an athletic director that told him to delete it. You don't honestly think he actually believed that was a controversial tweet to begin with do you?
 

QuaoarsKing

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Why does Leach delete his controversial tweets? I really don't understand what he's trying to achieve with his Twitter personality. Either leave it all up and don't apologize for **** or stop making stupid controversial tweets.

I don't think he would have deleted this if it really was this mythical racial brouhaha the Six Pack Reacreational Counteroutrage Mob (SPRCoM) alleges but somehow no one can back up with evidence. It's obviously not racist, virtually everyone agrees that it's not, and Leach isn't going to apologize when he's clearly not in the wrong.

Probably someone in the AD reminded him of De'Runnya and PJ (players that Leach presumably never met and had probably barely heard of), and Leach wisely decided it wasn't appropriate to have a suicide/murder meme up, even though I think most people agreed it was funny.
 
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paindonthurt_

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I tend to do this a lot. Try to treat people how I want to be treated and not how I am treated.
I don’t want anyone to treat me as a victim. I want to know where people stand so be up front with me.
You can be up front and honest and respectful.
 
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The only people "offended" here are 14 people (by my count) who are outraged by the idea that a black person might think a Tweet is racist

On the other hand, there is supposedly 1 sociology professor upset over it (haven't seen any evidence, but I believe it), and 2 football players with a total of 3 words that have been construed to mean they think it was racist too, but it's a big stretch.

So at best it's 14-3, and probably 14-1, and hundreds to 1 if you count everyone on Twitter having the same strong reactions. As basically always with these things, the counteroutrage is much larger, louder, and whinier than the "outrage" that inspired it.

A national ESPN columnist wrote a story on it and the State newspaper did too. People are outraged that people with that type of viewership are perpetuating something this stupid.
 

QuaoarsKing

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A national ESPN columnist wrote a story on it and the State newspaper did too. People are outraged that people with that type of viewership are perpetuating something this stupid.

Nothing in the ESPN article alleges any kind of racism, it just relies on Horka's article for everyone. Horka has always been an idiot, and he took a couple of players' one-word Tweets out of context to drum up a controversy over nothing.

Doesn't change the fact that there is more counter-outrage on this thread alone than actual outrage on the entire Internet that spawned it.

Kobe's Tweet is deleted by the way (assuming the ESPN article's links are correct). Thanks all you Bulldogs who bullied, raged, and attacked him over some fake motivation you made up for him.
 
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RiverCityDawg

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I don't think he would have deleted this if it really was this mythical racial brouhaha the Six Pack Reacreational Counteroutrage Mob (SPRCoM) alleges but somehow no one can back up with evidence. It's obviously not racist, virtually everyone agrees that it's not, and Leach isn't going to apologize when he's clearly not in the wrong.

Probably someone in the AD reminded him of De'Runnya and PJ (players that Leach presumably never met and had probably barely heard of), and Leach wisely decided it wasn't appropriate to have a suicide/murder meme up, even though I think most people agreed it was funny.

There's a whole thread on 247 with multiple people saying it was a racially insensitive tweet, context doesn't matter, a noose is a racially charged symbol and if you don't know that you're stupid or ignorant.

I don't think many people think Leach intended for it to be racist, but many think the tweet had racial undertones and was stupid for him to post. You're literally the only person I've seen go with the DeRunnya/PJ angle.

The sociology professor tagged many official MSU twitter handles with her comments, so I'm sure that along with the players' tweets caused Leach himself or someone to tell him to take it down. If you don't think the blow back from those offended (or offended for others) based on it being "racially insensitive" caused him to apologize, I don't know what to tell you. I'm just glad I wasn't the only one that didn't know a noose was an offensive symbol to some regardless of the context.

I would agree the "outrage" for him having to apologize now seems greater than the outrage over the tweet, but it was there nevertheless. And I'm not surprised more people are "outraged" over the apology because most people didn't see it as having racist implications in the first place.
 

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He posted a meme in which an old lady was knitting a "scarf" for her husband during quarantine. When you clicked on the picture and saw the scarf, it turned out to be a noose. And a few of our black football players immediately took offense to it.


I never saw our players get upset about it.
 

MeridianDog

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We will not play any Football Games this year/season/or next two either and it will blow over in four years, when we start playing again.
 

Ibdancin

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I saw Errol and Fabian Lovett both comment on it. One of them said “wtf?”


"WTF" does not equal Leach did something to offend them. They may have been laughing saying "WTF".

Let's not assume our players thought the worst.
 

DAWG61

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Kick those specific players off the team. They’re soft.

This is by far the dumbest comment in this thread. In one instance you want someone to be able to say whatever they want on twitter (Leach) which I'm not complaining about but then in the very next instance you want someone else kicked off a football team for responding to the first person's tweet.
 

drail14me

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Everyone should go home and watch Blazing Saddles and remember the times when we could all make fun of each other without getting our feelings hurt.
 

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How many of those claiming there's too much political correctness and offended groups are still uptight about someone on The Weather Channel referring to a part of Mississippi as "the landmass" almost a decade ago?

PC is just like southern hospitality. Both are ways of treating others politely in line with "the golden rule," but both are considered stupid to those who don't know all "the rules."

Don't be hypocrites, be critical of those you respect, be considerate of those you don't understand, and suddenly life gets a lot easier and more enjoyable.
 

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First, In this day and age of hyper-sensitivity to words and/or symbols, why do so many high profile people post to social media? No win situation.

Second, if the woman in the meme displayed a knitted sword should I feel offended since my Sicilian ancestors and thousands like them were put to death by the sword by the Romans for being Christians? Every race, creed, ethnic group in the world has been dehumanized for one reason or another. We all need to learn from the past, but let's live for the present and future.
 

Ibdancin

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There's a whole thread on 247 with multiple people saying it was a racially insensitive tweet, context doesn't matter, a noose is a racially charged symbol and if you don't know that you're stupid or ignorant.

I don't think many people think Leach intended for it to be racist, but many think the tweet had racial undertones and was stupid for him to post. You're literally the only person I've seen go with the DeRunnya/PJ angle.

The sociology professor tagged many official MSU twitter handles with her comments, so I'm sure that along with the players' tweets caused Leach himself or someone to tell him to take it down. If you don't think the blow back from those offended (or offended for others) based on it being "racially insensitive" caused him to apologize, I don't know what to tell you. I'm just glad I wasn't the only one that didn't know a noose was an offensive symbol to some regardless of the context.

I would agree the "outrage" for him having to apologize now seems greater than the outrage over the tweet, but it was there nevertheless. And I'm not surprised more people are "outraged" over the apology because most people didn't see it as having racist implications in the first place.


So a MSU Professor did this? Not the players?


LOL! That person should be fired for it.
 
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