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RUkhoury

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when it first happened I agreed. But the reality is Lathan wasn’t a very physical post presence on both the offensive and defensive end. If Manny keeps developing he will be more of a net positive than Lathan could be. Doesn’t change the fact they need another 5, but Somerville isn’t a Pike prototypical big
 

BOCA93

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Terrible take. Good offensive skill set but no need to give away most of the NIL on him. At the end of the day no issue with Pike letting him walk. he’s not worth the 7 figures he was demanding
 
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Caliknight

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This. He is not worth what he is asking for

If Pike paid him what he is asking, then that would be the F75k up
Pike actually fixed his mistake of allowing Sommerville to dictate who he could recruit. Pike letting him walk is fixing that mistake. If Sommerville can con some team into giving him seven figures then good for him. I hope it's another B1G team. We'd be winning 3 ways.
 

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Says the guy who gave Pike a lot of credit for making the Big 10 tournament 5 years ago. I'll keep knocking Pike. You keep knocking 18-22 year old kids if it makes you feel better.

Again, the fact that you think I was serious when I said “Pike made the Big Ten Tournament” when talking about the years that everyone made it says a lot more about you than it does about me.

There is not another poster on this website retarded enough to think that was a serious comment.
 

Bob Chaewsky_rivals

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Again, the fact that you think I was serious when I said “Pike made the Big Ten Tournament” when talking about the years that everyone made it says a lot more about you than it does about me.

There is not another poster on this website retarded enough to think that was a serious comment.
You were arguing in SUPPORT of Pikiel. It would have to be serious, and it was.
 

fluoxetine

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You were arguing in SUPPORT of Pikiel. It would have to be serious, and it was.

No, you absolute ******* moron. The conversation went like so:

You: Waters was more successful than Pike at Rutgers
Me: WTF are you talking about idiot, Pike made the tournament here and Waters never did
You: Waters made the NIT, that is a tournament
Me: Good point, maybe we should count Pike’s Big Ten Tournament berths.

I was MAKING FUN OF YOU which was apparently a mistake because you are literally too stupid to insult in any way more complicated than just straight up calling you an idiot

My god man
 

Bob Chaewsky_rivals

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Hell yea it's about the money. @Richie 0 already stated as such regarding Lathan. As a Rutgers alum I'd love it if Lathan went to another B1G team for $1MM. We win two ways. Not paying him, and getting score at will on him.
I'm sure the money is important, but it started with EO, who couldn't believe how much basketball he learned at Oregon. A lot of guys see where the program is going and have simply lost respect for him as a coach. I don't see where this is surprising.
 

Bob Chaewsky_rivals

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No, you absolute ****ing moron. The conversation went like so:

You: Waters was more successful than Pike at Rutgers
Me: WTF are you talking about idiot, Pike made the tournament here and Waters never did
You: Waters made the NIT, that is a tournament
Me: Good point, maybe we should count Pike’s Big Ten Tournament berths.

I was MAKING FUN OF YOU which was apparently a mistake because you are literally too stupid to insult in any way more complicated than just straight up calling you an idiot

My god man
Sorry, suck up to it. And by the way, Waters was a better couch than Pike.
 

cRURah

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when it first happened I agreed. But the reality is Lathan wasn’t a very physical post presence on both the offensive and defensive end. If Manny keeps developing he will be more of a net positive than Lathan could be. Doesn’t change the fact they need another 5, but Somerville isn’t a Pike

Somerville was only a freshman, he has enormous potential. Maybe everyone criticizing him now makes some feel better for losing him, but i seriously doubt his replacement will be anywhere near as good.
 
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RUkhoury

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Somerville was only a freshman, he has enormous potential. Maybe everyone criticizing him now makes some feel better for losing him, but i seriously doubt his replacement will be anywhere near as good.
I agree, and maybe he can turn into a Julian Reese or Trevion Williams type player, but I don’t think spending a ton of money on a to be sophomore Center in the big is smart….especially when we have limited NIL as is
 
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S.W.A.I.N

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Why don't you respond then with the things he does well. I'll wait.
Here, you can stop waiting and go back to smelling your own farts.

Responsible for the most NCAA tourney appearances in 2 generations. Highest ranked recruits of all time. Another recruit in the league, 2 recruits in the Sweet 16.

How much money did your *** donate to NIL?
 

-RUFAN4LIFE-

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Is there anything Pike doesn't f75k up. What an incompetent.
Incompetent is fans not seeing a tweener who was a round peg trying to fit in a square hole. He was not a fit for Pike's system and only about NIL. He was leaving no matter what type of season RU had.

But why would we want a guy that can't play the 5 well? Bad defense, no hustle, poor rebounder, doubtful he could even take an opening tip off. Plus too slow to play the 4 and was apparently a locker room issue.

Yeah, Pike's incompetent for saying don't let the door hit you on the way out.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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That's your opinion. That's not a fact. What is a fact is Lathan left for a pay day, one Pike wasn't willing to give him. You can say that's a mistake, but I say it's not. Lathan isn't great. I'd take my money and chances elsewhere.

THIS about a million times over again. Last year he wanted to be guaranteed the starting center role, or at least minimal competition. Richie confirmed that again too. Now he thinks he’s worth $1 million. Under no circumstances was an undersized center who plays no defense worth that to us. He’s not even an efficient scorer outside of making free throws.

Somerville was only a freshman, he has enormous potential. Maybe everyone criticizing him now makes some feel better for losing him, but i seriously doubt his replacement will be anywhere near as good.

I’d be willing to bet my mortgage right now that whoever replaces him will be better than him at defense. He’s materially worse on that end than anyone who played center for Rutgers under Pike. That includes Shaq Carter who was also a weak defender but just understood where he needed to be better than Lathan (because he came in more experienced as a JUCO transfer). I see his level of D as a likely ceiling for Lathan on that end. In 2 years…. He’ll still likely be worse next year. He was horrendous at D. Truly awful.

So yeah - the next center probably won’t be as good at offense but if that person doesn’t try to do too much on that end, and plays solid D, they will ultimately be an upgrade to the team even if the side by side stats don’t show that.
 
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seansherm

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He was a freshman who already had a better offensive game than Myles and Cliff. He has defensive upside with the right teacher.
He had very little defensive upside, and only scored like 4 points per 40 more than Myles did his first year. Myles shot 5% better, averaged 8 rebounds per 40 more, more than double the assists and blocks. The two don't really compare. Lathan's best quality is his ability to draw fouls and his FT shooting.